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Old 12-22-2004, 06:19 PM
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Default air cooled vs liquid cooled

I'm going to buy a new 4-wheeler soon, but I'm really torn between a Z-400 and a 400EX. Can some explain the advantages and disadvantages of air cooled and liquid cooled motors. I understand that a liquid cooled motor will run more efficiently, but doesn't more parts on a motor mean more things that can break or go wrong. I'm wondering why one manufacturer would use a liquid cooled motor and one would use air cooled.
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Old 12-22-2004, 06:42 PM
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liquid cooled also can run a higher compression ratio. Over all the Z does have more power but a ex is a bullit proof trails bike. The ex should have a weight advantage just for that reason that air-cooled motors have less parts but I dont think it has much of an advantage if any.
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Old 12-22-2004, 06:46 PM
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I have covered this quite a few times in the numerous ltz/kfx/dvx vs ex threads. Search and you can see a lot of good comparisons by forum members.
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:04 PM
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Hey maddog56 -
I'm didn't want to start another honda vs. suzuki vs. yamaha comparison thread, I think thats been run into the ground already. I'm looking for information on liquid cooled and air cooled motors in general. Whether it be ATV's, dirt bikes or old Volkswagens. I'm looking for what would be a better adavantage for me and my style of riding. I will do a search too.
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:12 PM
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Liquid cooled is better in every condition. It maintains a constant tempature which is easy on the motor. also, you can add a temp guage into the radiatior to see what temp you are running, and making sure your not over heating. If you get your motor really dirty ( gunky dirt, mud, ect, ) it will greatly decrease the air-cooled engine's ability to cool itself, where as it wont phase the liquid cooled and would still run consistant. also, the Z400 is a much greater bike then the 400ex. Good luck!
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Old 12-22-2004, 10:13 PM
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Liquid cooled is better in every condition.
Definately not true. Ever seen a 400ex on the side of the trail because of a busted water pump or radiator hose?


Echo, I said to search because I had made a fairly general liquid vs air/oil cooled comparison many times in these threads that didnt depend on the bike you were using.
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Old 12-22-2004, 10:17 PM
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Thanks maddog56 -
I'll look them up. I'm doing as much research as I can before buying a new ATV. I want to know everything I can about both quads.
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Old 12-22-2004, 10:25 PM
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get the liquid cooled. Rarely if ever a waterpump breaks, ive never seen/heard of that problem. water cooled is just more advanced... all the high performance quads are liquid cooled, YFZ 450, TRX 450R, Raptor 660R, Z400, 250R, banshee..... see the trend?
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Old 12-22-2004, 10:43 PM
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There are some instances where liquid cooling can be worse, the main one that comes to mind is really muddy conditions if your radiator gets plugged full of mud your liquid cooled engine will overheat. Other than that, here is my take on it:

Air cooled pros- Simple design, less moving parts, less to break down on the trail.
cons- Can't handle higher compression, could run hot with big bore kit=less reliability

Liquid cooling pros- More consistant engine temps, engine can tolerate tighter tolerances/higher comp, makes more power in general
cons- cooling system failure likely to be catastrophic
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:59 PM
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echo-I own both. Get the EX only if you exclusively ride very tight, semi-technical trails. That engine doesn't mind being lugged down and ridden slowly. For anything else, get the Z! The Z is by far the best all-around machine available right now.
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