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Old 10-13-2009, 08:14 AM
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The XP's have two different size tanks. The XP's with EPS have a smaller tank to accommodate the addition EPS system.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:41 AM
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The XP's have two different size tanks. The XP's with EPS have a smaller tank to accommodate the addition EPS system.
Looks like your right.2009 Polaris Sportsman® 850 XP EFI with EPS ATVs

A Sportsman 300 has the same tank as the XP850 ESP. I could not live with a ATV that can not get 100 miles at least out of a tank in our type of riding areas.
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I know miy 850 is probably not the fastest one out there, but there sure seems to be some real slow ones popping up on the net.

There is no way a Griz should keep up with a XP850. Should be 3 lengths at about 50 mph.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:54 AM
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The extra 40 mile criusing range would be more handy in real world trail riding, then a little quicker drag race time.

Polaris managed to put a 6 gal tank on there 500/800 X2 so they can do it if they tried.

Gas mileage is not a issue with me,my sleds all suck gas bad but with a 11 gal tank they still ge well over 100 miles of trail riding.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:38 AM
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The extra 40 mile cruising range would be more handy in real world trail riding, then a little quicker drag race time. Well said TLC!!

What would be the top six things you would want on your bike if it's only used as a trail bike? Well for me it would be the list below and in no particular order, except for number 25


1. Ground clearance
2. Ride quality/steering/ease of operation
3. Gas mileage/range
4. Brakes
5. Dependability
6. Head lights

25. Be faster than a Grizzly 700 in a drag race
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:39 PM
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I know miy 850 is probably not the fastest one out there, but there sure seems to be some real slow ones popping up on the net.

There is no way a Griz should keep up with a XP850. Should be 3 lengths at about 50 mph.
Maybe is because they aren't using Nicasil anymore.. j/k, Seriously though there does seem to be a wide variation in reports of perfomance. Everything from drag races to top speed to it's ability to lift the front tires..all over the map...could be reporting accuracy,other variables(ie machine set ups) or there could truly be a large variation in the performance from one machine to the next...if the latter is the case my first 2 guesses would be factory variations in valve timing and next would be rings not seating..unless there are some drastically different ECM maps floating around out there..
I kind of wish I could have kept mine(in addition to getting the outty) because from some of the stuff I am reading lately I had a freak.

I don't think drag racing ability in itself is all that important on a trail machine....but if you notice it always seems to come up,why? It's #25 on terbs list but he still brought it up right? I think the reason is it is an indicator of power available to the ground,and the indicator most easily tested by the average person ..
For some it's importance I think it is just a Man/Ego thing...
Personally I just like machines that are quick as possible without sacrificing any of the other important areas...so given 2 machines equally capable in all other important aspects I prefer the quicker one.
Will the slower machine get the job done? Sure...but there are times when it is fun to have that acceleration that makes you hold on say oh crap!

On the gas mileage...with so many variations in riding, that one is hard to get a grasp of on an ATV IMO,especially with the high RPM ranges they run at...unless you compare the machine on the same rides and use similar throttle patterns...the reported mileage will vary greatly...one guy might cruise along at 20 and rarely move is thumb...another guy my average 20 and be in an out of the throttle the whole time...
Going back to my first paragraph...if one 850 is truly noticably more powerful than another 850 then the more powerful one will likely be more efficient and have better mileage under identical situations.

Range is nice but whether it be 70 or 100 or 120 miles..IMO all that affects is how you plan your rides...JMO Range would be about 6or 7 on my list...carry extra fuel is pretty easy. If I always rode the same trails and the ride was just a little too far for machine a to make it but machine B could do it....then that might move range up on the list...otherwise...range,within reason of course,not a big one for me..
I can get 40 miles of range by carrying along 2 gallons of fuel...

Hope that I didn't get too far off topic. What was the topic again? lol
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:29 PM
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Very well said Highoctane! I will add this IMO most big part about owning an ATV is knowing your machine and maintenance logging over 4k on a grizzly with no major problems hope the XP lives up to this.
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:22 PM
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I just like a machine that holds extra gas in its own tank and not carries extra gas cans on its racks. Rack space gets used up quick enough as is let alone carrying bulky gas cans alone.

Not sure how planning a ride would help us in our case, we do plan however on never seeing another station or the trucks once we hit the trails . It just that some ATVs can go 160 miles and just carry a little 2 gal gas can while others need to carry a extra big heavy 5 gal gas can to do the same weekend or trip.
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:07 PM
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I just like a machine that holds extra gas not carries extra gas. Rack space gets used up quick enough as is let alone carrying bulky gas cans alone.

Not sure how planning a ride would help us in our case, we do plan however on never seeing another station once we hit the trails though.
Everyone case is different,I was speaking about myself. Everybody has things that are important to them...heck I wish ATVs had 300+ miles of range...but 10 or20 or even 40 miles of range is not enough FOR ME to steer away from a machine if it is superior in other areas to the higher range machine...
Put it this way if I had the Choice between an EPS and non-EPS the extra fuel wouldn't even begin to make me pick the non-EPS...
Same goes for 550 vs 850....the range isn't enough to make up for other things FOR ME.

But I bet you still "plan" a ride whether you call it that or not...and fuel plays a part in that planning...your wouldn't take off on a ride without knowing how much fuel you have and whether it will be enough to get you back right? That is planning..and I am sure you plan wihtout even thinking about it...especially if you ride familiar trails alot.
And you don't have to carry the fuel on the racks...or in bulky gas cans,I have done that and yes it kind of sucks...but there are much better alternatives now days...Koplin and Rotopax fuel packs..
Personally even if I had the highest range ATV on the market I would still carry some spare fuel when riding in the middle of nowhere...anything can happen...
Guess that is why range isn't that much of an issue to me...
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We ride up by our camp on a combination of papermill land and state land so the only gas we have is what we truck in. We do have quite a few fire roads and it is fun to open the throttle a bit but the downside of that is the guys in back are sucking dust (both them and their machines). I notice on my machine it don't take much dust on your pre filter making your MPG suffer dramaticly. Another thing that worries me is that I dont entirely trust the digital fuel guages as apposed to the old style.
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