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Old 09-16-2009, 12:15 AM
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Hmmm, that's broke. How about the Post Office. Oh yeah, they're broke too. Take a look at Medicare and Medicaid. OOPS, broke too. Amtrak, Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac. The budget. Oh, those are all in the red too. I think I'd rather weather the mild storms of private sector insurance rather than the hurricane known as government.
Where did you get the idea that government (state, local, national) is supposed to be profitable and run in the "black". Granted, they're not supposed to be so far in the red. One can not look at all you have listed and lump them into the same hurricane.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:38 AM
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You'll get taxed on the value of the car by the state when you register it. Just like every other rebate. Individual states have not made the decision yet if they're going to tax the money as income, although some likely will.
Try Federal Income Tax!
Unlike regular trade ins where the value of the trade in is DEDUCTED from the purchase price and therefore NOT TAXED as part of the value of the car at registration the Cash for Clunkers dollars is taxed as INCOME!!!!
Not every state has State Income Tax but everyone has Federal Income Tax
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:40 AM
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Humm, housing crisis sounds familiar.

So you're saying there's a direct connection between cash for clunkers and the finance piece? All the people that bought under the program can't afford to buy and are a bunch of scumbags that will get repoed, and they used government financing to get them. Nice.

Consider this a little tax break that you so love for the average individual. You love the tax breaks, right?
Where in his post do you see him saying "All the people that bought under the program can't afford to buy and are a bunch of scumbags" ??
Nice of you to add your own words to his quote, oh yeah, you have a history of doing this.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:18 AM
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Where did you get the idea that government (state, local, national) is supposed to be profitable and run in the "black". Granted, they're not supposed to be so far in the red. One can not look at all you have listed and lump them into the same hurricane.
The point of that lesson is that we should not trust the federal government with approximately 1/6th of our Gross Domestic Product. If they can't run these things well, why should we trust them with our healthcare. I can get healthcare on my own, thank you. I don't need help from Uncle Mitt Romney or Aunt Nancy Pelosi to get it. On the other hand I can't defend the country. That's the government's job. And, did everyone notice I just bashed a supposedly conservative Republican???
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:30 AM
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Humm, housing crisis sounds familiar.

So you're saying there's a direct connection between cash for clunkers and the finance piece? All the people that bought under the program can't afford to buy and are a bunch of scumbags that will get repoed, and they used government financing to get them. Nice.

Consider this a little tax break that you so love for the average individual. You love the tax breaks, right?
Sorry, didn't mean to point the finger at you. But, hey if your offended, I'm sorry. Kinda.



Well let's see, the cash for clunkers is a totally free program so I must be wrong to consider it belonging to any finance piece.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:16 AM
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What? You wouldn't have a damn job or an national economy if there wasn't credit.
Economies have been around alot longer then credit and so have jobs. Not sure where you got that idea from...
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Economies have been around alot longer then credit and so have jobs. Not sure where you got that idea from...

Ehh maybe, maybe not. I'm betting people had tabs at there local drinking establishment before economics was discovered. I agree with him. I'm betting our economy could not support the population without credit.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:12 PM
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Where in his post do you see him saying "All the people that bought under the program can't afford to buy and are a bunch of scumbags"
Pirate Guy, Did you see any quotes around my comments, no. Nobody is putting words in his mouth.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:15 PM
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Economies have been around alot longer then credit and so have jobs. Not sure where you got that idea from...
Ahhh, mortgages, auto loans, business credit, credit cards. Yes, there would be some small semblance of an "economy", but you wouldn't be living in the USA as you know it.
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Sorry, didn't mean to point the finger at you. But, hey if your offended, I'm sorry. Kinda.



Well let's see, the cash for clunkers is a totally free program so I must be wrong to consider it belonging to any finance piece.
No offense taken. I don't drive clunkers, so wouldn't know. However, the outrageous state taxes we pay on the value of our vehicle each year in Maine makes one want to drive a clunker.

Finance piece is in reference to clunkers being tied to financing....as in credit from the banks, not government finances in general.
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