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With the recent Kawi release and now this...I like the looks of our Rzr more and more every day.
The quality of the components themselves may turn out to be extraordinary and worth the investment long term; yet what a disappointment from a company that has lost so many die-hard fans over the years (myself included in terms of new models) with absolutely no word on much new being brought to the table.

A 675?....c'mon!

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

They say that "Beauty is only Skin Deep" ........ But the new 2008 Honda Big Red is UGLY TO THE BONE !!!!!

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

Is it me, or do those tires look really small?

And isn't the RZR closer to a 750?

Still, the RZR looks like the one to have.

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If it take more than 3 bolts to hold it on, it's probably crucial.

Did I read correctly. It won't be released until Summer 2008??? That would mean they are waiting a year before releasing a product that is already behind the frontrunners. That doesn't seem right.

Notice the year next to the name?

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If it take more than 3 bolts to hold it on, it's probably crucial.

They list the release date as the summer of '08 here (under 'specs' as of today): http://powersports.honda.com/2008models/#BigRed

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

Originally posted by: Scootergptx
Is it me, or do those tires look really small?

Small indeed and subtracting from the overall look in a big way (IMO).

"...And isn't the RZR closer to a 750?..."

AC played the same game with their 1000cc Thundercat (950cc); yet both engines are at least somewhere in the range of competitveness for 2007.

"...Still, the RZR looks like the one to have...."

Polaris is the only company to date that has 'gotten' the 50" width limitation forced on many of us by the motorcycle community and their divisive (not to mention national orv leadership supported) 'our trail/your trail' politics. They've led the way in finally shoving this machine right on up these elitist's arrogantly turned up noses and I commend them for finally standing up to these guys and our right to access multi-use trails...while 2-wheel supported closed door leadership presided over the largest land closure in American off-road history just this year.

Sorry for the politics...yet there doesn't appear to be many out there who know the true story of why, in my opinion, Polaris was forced into designing 50" machines in the first place.
(Google "AMA-D14 house bill 5343 removed from agenda" and click on the sub-heading to both view how quickly a manufacturer-sponsored bill is killed under Oz-like leadership or how motorcyclists refer to even 50" trails as 'their' trails also....while currently lobbying to shut down the balance of the largest maintained system in the nation to everybody but themselves).

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

Scootergptx,

The RZR has a 760cc Parallel Twin Cylinder engine.

Did I mention that the Big Red is UGLY ??

I'm just trying to imagine how dark it would have to be or perhaps how desperate I was for a ride ...... for me to ever be seen in one?? Ha ha

You know, Honda has even had the advantage of seeing the other guys new SxS offerings.... And Yet they still have a press release and show the public this thing.

All I can say is that you would HAVE to be a real die hard Honda Loyalist to plunk down money on this thing. Their new 700 Sport Machine has really great lines and styling....why not carry that look over to their BIG RED???

Maybe.....JUST MAYBE.....they have put this out to through everyone off and then show up on
Game Day with something sleek and sporty to compete with the RZR??

The Big Red's destiny is to carry hay bales and bags of feed.........then hidden back in the barn like a red-headded step-child.

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

wow honda sure let down the world on that pos. But maybe the trx700xx can be close with the raptor 700.

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06 Wolverine
EPI clutch kit
GYTR Skid Plates and rad guard
front bumper-truckbed coated black- looks great
K&N air filter
DYNOJET jet kit
GYTR pipe
CMP front and rear racks
Reverse Rev limiter override kit
Automatic backup light kit
FST 488 bbk and cam
Ported and polished head
powermadd handguards

2001 Raptor 660
Inframe monster duals, K&N
12 tooth front sprocket

You may be right Raptory. Maybe they just let a few guys loose with a cutting torch, a case of Pabst and some red paint.

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If it take more than 3 bolts to hold it on, it's probably crucial.

GregV
You are right, this thing is not only ugly, it is Butt Ugly.

I would have expected more out of Honda.

So two things come to mind here:
1. Maybe the others are not going to try and run up against the RZR, figuring it is just a fade thing, and that it will go away.
2. Maybe Honda is setting the new look for side-by-sides. And all of them will be this ugly, some what like the cars of the 70's.

(I know some looked good, but come on guys)

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Gen2 RZR - Green & Mean

On The Roads & Trails Of
America

OK......Let me get the ball rolling on this. Chime in if you have anything to contribute. ha ha

The 2009 Honda Big Red is So Ugly...........

" How ugly is it?? "

The Big Red is So Ugly, that the instrumentation and shift lever had to be fitted with Braile to better serve it's TARGET CUSTOMERS.......the blind.

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

The 2009 Honda Big Red is So Ugly...........

" How ugly is it?? "

The Big Red is So Ugly, that LeBra (the automotive bra manufacturer) is working a new aftermarket accessory for the Big Red. They are calling it the "Double-Bagger".

It is specifically designed to strict tollerances to completly cover every body panel that is visible on the Big Red.

They didn't stop there, hence the Trade Marked name "Double-Bagger"TM

It also comes with a second wrap that is designed to cover the face and neck of the driver to insure that you will not be recognized by your friends.

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

The 2009 Honda Big Red is So Ugly...........

" How ugly is it?? "

The Big Red is So Ugly, that if you listen closely in the still of the night you can hear the Kawasaki Engineers having the first sound sleep that they have had since they released the Mule.......because there is FINALLY a Utility Side by Side that is actually UGLIER than the MULE.

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

Originally posted by: GregV
"..Maybe.....JUST MAYBE.....they have put this out to throw everyone off and then show up on Game Day with something sleek and sporty to compete with the RZR??..."

My thoughts exactly; as there is no other possible explanation beyond pure Japanese conservatism in terms of Honda (supposedly) finally jumping into the sports-related (and liability prone) market. I'm not saying that this couldn't end up being the hands-down toughest and well-built "utility use" side-by-side ever built...just that (as you've all mentioned) it's both ugly and unspectacular on paper.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

Just like a friend trying to set you up on a blind date, the salesfolks are gonna have a hard time with selling it because it has a nice personality.

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If it take more than 3 bolts to hold it on, it's probably crucial.

Big Red's looks remind me of the farmer in 'Men in Black', where he pulls the skin of his face back and freaks out his wife. Seriously, it looks like they copied the front end Husqvarna uses for their UTV. At least it doesn't LOOK like a 'me too' Rhino knockoff. What peeves me is, no specs, which is typical Honda.

Their strategy seems to be 'it's a Honda, buy it , you'll like it , it will do whatever you want. Specs???, you don't need to know those, just buy it'.

Yeah, right.

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My Avatar has more hair than I do.

At least if it was really friggin' fast, we could say it had that going for it

but even then, you can't outrun ugly...

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still looking for Poncho's house

Yea..... I'm sure if we look hard enough we could find the words EZ-GO somewhere on it. ;-)

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch

o i ssen it and it was ugly bad uugly and im a honda fan it looks like a rhino with a pig nose like a big red pig lol

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STILL THE BEST after all these years

So what are they going to call the camo version?The big camo.Honda has really put a lot of thought into this one.At least you could buy the camo one and hide it in the woods so your buddies can`t see it!