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Created On: 06/19/2007 05:44 PM
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 06/19/2007 05:44 PM
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cole600
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does any one know how to get rid of the rev limiter on the rzr ???? and how about more power its fast and fun but faster is funner any one heard anything????
 06/19/2007 05:51 PM
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oldstillgoing
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Where are you planning on running it faster then the almost 60? Our old sport Banshee would do close to 70, only could do it on pavement and one other long straight of sand. It was scary when one stopped to think what would happen IF?

But to answer, suspect it would take a major redo of the little black box that controls the engine. Way to early for much of that, I would think, but then, the racing guys, who know what they may come up with.
 06/19/2007 06:01 PM
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I mainly run on sand sometimes in the woods but racing up and down sand mountain im one of those guys who can never have to much power or go fast enough and i just talked to a guy at mountain performance and the said they have mods for the RZR this is going to be a fun machine when im done doing some mods
 06/19/2007 06:35 PM
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Is that Sand Mountain as in Nevada? If so, remember the U turn at the top. Keep us informed on the mods. Yes, this is going to be a very fun machine. The after market guys will make lots of $$$$. I want an extendable steering column to go with the tilt wheel. I understand about never enough power in sand. Sand really soaks up the HP.
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little sahara utah. they were saying that they will have a supercharger kit soon and they have NOW a fuel controller and they can get rid of my rev limiter by reprograming the ecu im going to get this stuff order up this week
 06/19/2007 08:02 PM
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oldstillgoing
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Haven't stopped at Little Sahara yet. We seem to go to the Piaute or Moab. Have seen pictures and it seems a good place to ride.

Let us know how the re-programming goes. Sounds interesting. Don't think I'm interested in the turbo but sounds very interesting. Isn't it just amazing. This machine is not even out in any number and all ready look at what is going on.
 06/20/2007 08:14 AM
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One of the Mags mentioned removing a shim on the clutches that would allow it to rev out further. I will try and dig it and give you the exact quote and the magazine that it came out of.

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 06/20/2007 11:26 AM
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The part is just a spacer that stops the pulleys from moving all the way in the primary clutch:

19 5437199 Spacer, Clutch, Limiter

But, unless you have a tool to do it, you'll most likely have to have your dealer do it. Word is that removing this will get the RzR to 70mph.
 06/20/2007 11:38 AM
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oldstillgoing
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70 WOW! Well it sure has enough engine to do so. Very interesting. Not so interested in the 70 part, but be very interested in how it changes the performance from say 40 up. Seems the rate it accelerate slows somewhere in that area and the closer to top speed the slower it accelerates. If taking out the spacer would allow better mid range acceleration, then that would be something to really think on. Anyone have knowledge of how it effects performance other then just top end?
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I dont think it would change that part, but I could be wrong. The extra speed in low range might be usefull though.
 06/20/2007 12:12 PM
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There is alot of info on this over at the PRC forum, you should go check it out.
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My understand in regards to the spacer removal mod is that it only affects top end, not acceleration. Adds about 10MPH but it is at the expense of belt life as it will tend to stretch it out over time. Go to the PRC forum for more details.

Big Gun also has an exhaust and EFI controller for sale on Ebay....

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 06/21/2007 06:53 AM
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ATV Sport......May 2007 issue. They mention a top speed of 70 mph.

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2002 Yamaha Raptor 719 Stroker
1st. build up was a Trinity Racing 686 with the Pro-Port.
Then I switched the WEB CAM to a HOT CAM STAGE 2 - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
Head Work with new Valves & Springs by Craycraft Racing - Bob is Awesome to work with!!
Hot Rods 719cc Stroker - Hot CAM's Stroker CAM. (The rest is a result of a lot of blood & sweat)
Black L.E. plastic.
2008 Polaris RZR (TOTALLY FREEKIN ROCKS)
Warn 3000 lb. Winch
 06/25/2007 08:13 AM
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After going through the Rhino hype in '03 (and subsequently through my wallet) I think that we're going to take a wait and see attitude on some of this stuff; including the EFI controller. If history is any guide; we'll see lots of discussion regarding the pros and cons involved in each of these individual set-ups; providing us with one heck of a lot more quality information than we have now for the dollar spent.
I guess the good news is that this thing truly performs right out of the box and that a windshield/top/spare tire carrier were about my only real needs when I stopped myself long enough to think about it.

Now a 'reverse' rev un-limiter...that would be another story.

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Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
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No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 06/26/2007 04:38 PM
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martymoe
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i did the spacer removal mod, no special tools, takes about 20 mins, picked up about 8 mph, but it throws the belt out there further and seems to get to the top faster.
as far as stretching the belt, i dont think so, if you take the cover off and watch the belt exercise with the spacer it only goes up to like an inch from the end of the machined area, theres' still room at the bottom of the driven clutch. when you take the spacer out it looks like it just goes through the full motio of the clutch. as i understand it, the sp800 uses the same clutch and belt but no spacer. that woudl lead me to believe that the spacer is there purely for safety.
i guess i'm unsafe

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 06/26/2007 09:34 PM
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I think it's funny that you're one of the few out there even experimenting with this and sharing on the forums. Seems like everybody had the Grizz sheave put in by now when the Rhino was first released; along with so much more chatter about different discoveries and new ideas that just plain isn't out there at this same point in time.(considering that this is just as much or more of a groundbreaking machine).

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

 06/27/2007 07:35 AM
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martymoe
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it's not just me, somebody else posted it on prc, there was a lot of this "special tools, and you need a phd, and marvin the martain's blessing" talk but one guy just hopped up and said nope no special tools needed it's totally easy, here's how.

so i tore down and just played with the belt and noted what it was doing and how it works. and more importantly how things changed

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 06/27/2007 06:36 PM
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Martymoe, where did you find this info on how to remove the spacer? and guys forgive me for being dumb but what is PRC?

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 06/27/2007 08:57 PM
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It's the polaris ranger club forum...still don't know what the rules are here for linking these kind of things.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 06/28/2007 12:16 AM
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martymoe
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http://www.prcforum.com/topic....C_ID=1655&whichpage=3
it's about half way down the page. read the whole thread though there's a lot of good info also i dont think it's a 70mph clutch tweak. more like a 64mph clutch tweak.

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87 Yamaha G1R 4x4
00 Yamaha Banshee
02 Yamaha Blaster(s)
05 Sicilian Donkey
08 PoPo RzR
 06/28/2007 12:16 AM
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http://www.prcforum.com/topic....IC_ID=1655&whichpage=3

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00 Yamaha Banshee
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05 Sicilian Donkey
08 PoPo RzR
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