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Created On: 06/12/2007 01:23 AM
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 06/12/2007 01:23 AM
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Sandman2
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Has anyone checked their air filter lately? I used my RZR once in a somewhat dusty area and when I got home I thought I'd inspect the air filter. I'm absolutely unhappy with the stock set up. I found dust inside the intake that got past the air filter. Can't wait for K&N to come up with something better. I couldn't believe that dust went right past the cheap filter, even with the outerwear around it (Looks like they attempted a cheap fix). I've been riding in the same area for many years and have never seen dust get past the filter on any of my bikes...

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 06/12/2007 12:42 PM
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Check the clamp on the intake behind the filter. Someone was complaining that it was left loose on there machine. K&N does have a filter for the bike. I have seen them on ebay, and jaggedx sells them along with a prefilter.
 06/12/2007 08:44 PM
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I'd like to hear more on your assessment of the problem also; as Outerwear took a look a my machine today on an unrelated matter and we'll be meeting again soon. Evidently, this is a standard Sportsman size filter.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 06/13/2007 04:02 AM
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what a crappy filter what is the sock thing for what crapo i think i had beter get a ggod one

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 06/13/2007 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by: rzr

what is the sock thing for what crapo


It's a pre-filter that you can wash and re-use. A K&N is available from JaggedX as mentioned and Uni will most likely will come out with one soon also (Unis filter a little better; yet have slightly less airflow than the K&N brand).

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 06/14/2007 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the tip on the Sportsman filter. I'll be ordering a real filter soon...

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 06/20/2007 11:10 PM
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Holz Racing Products has both the UNI and the K&N filter in stock.
 06/22/2007 04:56 AM
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dealer says that the k&n filter will make the rzr run bad cause it cant tell the diff in the air presure? said not to use one it will make the rzr run bad?

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 06/24/2007 09:06 PM
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Sandman 2. I had the same experience this last weekend. I agree the stock filter does a bad job. Also saw very fine dust getting by the paper filter. The black outwear seemed useless. Seems there is a strong need for a better air intake location. Above the heads of the passengers, not behind them. The back of us and the RZR were covered with dust. No clean air at all where the present intake is located.

RZR, does your dealer sell the K&N? My guess is he does not. Why would the 800 in the RZR be different then the 800 in the Sportsman? Have not heard of problems with the K&N in the Sportsman 700 or 800 EFI, or did I miss that discussion? Is your dealer just trying to keep your part business? I do not know, just asking questions.
 06/25/2007 05:51 AM
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well i dont know he must want the bis also said that the polaris filtere was better cause it has smaller holes in the papaer lol also said that if i ride old rail beds that the fine dust will get buy the k&N ----------- i must be stupid------ to old----------- and on drugs-------- and totaly ignorant----------- also have been a bike meck for 38 years

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 06/25/2007 07:47 AM
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Holz is shipping my two Unis today.
Great service; very nice folks to talk to; looks like a lot of exciting products on the way, including a variety of clutching mods.

I like these guys from a first impression standpoint and will be giving both them and Jagged my first look for parts.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 06/26/2007 10:33 PM
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Blackballed - Thanks for the kind words. I think I talked to you on the phone.

We've tested out the UNI and K&N filters on the RZR, and both seem to work just fine. No difference in performance from the stock filter from our mildly scientific GPS speed tests.

You guys are correct - the Sportsman filter is the same as what is in the RZR.

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 07/02/2007 09:43 PM
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Didn't get a chance to oil and run the Unis this weekend in pretty dusty conditions (southern WI); yet I echo Sandman's concern and would ask trevorsride about the filter clamp..do you have one on yours? Mine never came with one and it looks like there has been very little room provided to ratchet one on to begin with.

I guess my next question would be...does anyone run a prefilter on the UNIs; or is 3 layers of filtration just to much of a restriction when compared with the higher volume K&Ns that normally do so?

I'll get one made locally and share the info (if this is reasonable); as I pretty well toasted two paper filters in just over 50 miles (didn't like what got past these any more than sandman described).

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

 07/02/2007 11:23 PM
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The clamp I was talking about was on the outside of the airbox. On the hose between the airbox and the motor.
 07/03/2007 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by: trevorsride

The clamp I was talking about was on the outside of the airbox. On the hose between the airbox and the motor.


Thanks; I'll be checking it and will call Uni today about the prefilter.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 07/03/2007 05:38 PM
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Uni says that their two-stage filter will be restricted to the point of affecting performance with an Outerwear prefilter. Called Holz also and the Uni does not use the clamp provided in this application.

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.

 07/03/2007 07:18 PM
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where is the stock location of the filter boxes air intake? I was crawling under mine today and the only thing I could find was this oval rubber tube under the bed and right over the injectors. is this it? if so yes, its in a dumb spot and I will be relocating it

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 07/04/2007 10:48 AM
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The air intake is in the cab between the seats. Impossible to see, but one can feel it. The black plastic that runs across the bed behind the seats has a bulge in it between the seats. The air intake is in it. What I want for for the after market folks to offer an extension to be cut into the plastic and go up over our heads and tie to the roll cage where the air is clean. The problem with the present location is the fact dust is pulled into the air intake area by the bodies in the seats. Just check how dirty one's back is from the dust after riding.
 07/05/2007 01:07 PM
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I took a very short ride recently with the new Uni oiled and installed under pretty dry conditions. Again, as osg referred to; you really have to keep an eye on your filter with the Rzr (it looked like I had travelled a lot further than I did).

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Forming a "Long Range Financial Subcommittee" in MI.:
Take two inexplicably expired term motorcycle reps. still serving on the board (one names yet another motorcycle rep)
Add 1 full-size and but 1 atv rep.
Arrogantly claim that the entire process should be finished in 4 conference calls with absolutely no public involvement or any meeting minutes recorded.
Result?
No complaint whatsoever from sheep-like atv clubs with literally tens of millions in play.
 07/05/2007 01:13 PM
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I am going to snorkel mine before it gets dirt past the filter as I am hearing they do and will take some how to photos and post them .

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 07/05/2007 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by: supersonictoys

I am going to snorkel mine before it gets dirt past the filter as I am hearing they do and will take some how to photos and post them .


I'm interested. I want a snorkel that does not take up any bed space and looks good. Of course any snorkel may cause problems with later accessories. But a snorkel is very badly needed. Will be very interested in your snorkel.
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