Just got my new 07 Outlander 650 MAX XT. Just curious what tires everyone is using on their Outlanders. Are you mostly sticking with the stock tires? or are you upgrading to a different tire?

I am specifically curious if anyone is using MUD Lites or MUD lite XTR's and if so how do you find they perform on the outlander compaired to stock tires. Worth the extra cash? or no?

Has anyone had any problems with the Visco-lock when using upgraded tires?

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

What kind of trails do you ride most often? Of all the ITP Mudlites I would say the XTR's are about the best. How will your Outlander do with radials... I know AC doesn't like radials very well.

Something to consider - all Mudlites are primarily geared for mud (however not a true hard-core mud tire), and you may loose some satisfaction on other types of terrain. There are some brands that offer superior results on other turf, out perform them and come close or equal the Mudlites in the mud... With that said...

Buy what you want and like, but I would shop around and do some research. I would also observe them in use on other machines. Remeber, people by nature will never say they made a mistake or that their choice was not the correct one or the tires they have are not up to par. The best thing to do is to wait and see as many different tires in action and start to form your desires from that. I waited almost 4 years and observed and did tons of research etc. I often guide out of state riders so I get to see many different machines and equipment do their thing in the 'real world'.

The first thing to do is to determine the type of trails you will ride most often. You would not use a 'sand tire' to climb a rock hill would you? Once you determine what kind of riding you do then don't worry about that ocasional situation - whether it be sand, mud, rocks or what have you. Then get the tire that suits most of your riding turf.

Bluntly - Mudlites do a fairly good job in the mud but leave a lot to be desired otherwise.

Congradulations on your new machine and many happy miles and smiles.

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
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03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

Edited: 06/05/2007 at 09:50 PM by buckaroo50

I put 26" Bighorns on my 800 on the stock wheels. They are outstanding for where I ride, a combination trails, sand, rock and a little mud and snow thrown in. My only concern is a little 'radial' wander at speed on rutted sand, but it still goes right where you point it. Just feels a little loose. My brother runs Bounty Hunters on his King Quand and said he gets the same 'feeling'. Must be a radial thing.

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Outlander 800
Grizzly 700
2500HD Duramax
Vortex 24 Toy Hauler

I get a little 'radial wander' too and mine are bias - hmmmm. I get it with small ruts because of my very agressive side-lugs on the front tires grabbing everything in sight. Sometimes a little pain but something I can live with for the results they give in other situations when I need them. And I use them alot when up against stumps, logs, rocks and to climb out of deep ruts. Nothing worse than trying to go someplace and have the front of your machine slide sideways or slip off something, because it won't grip and climb over. Don't get that with good agressive side lugs - but as with everything else there is a price to pay.

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

Edited: 06/05/2007 at 11:10 PM by buckaroo50

I have the Mudlite XTR's on an '06 800 Max. They are night and day different in terms of smoothness over standard Mudlites. They are mounted on ITP C-4 rims. I only use them in the winter and when I know I'm going to be in mud. Other than that I use the stock tires.
The ride of the stock tires is softer and most trails I ride do not require the bigger lugs. The XTR's (26") still rob the machine of power. If you can go with an extra set on separate rims that is the best of both worlds.

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2006 Outlander Max Full Ricochet 26" Mudlite XTR - Now an XT

Cool. sounds good. I am really not sure what terrain I will be riding most. Probably Woods, and Rocky hills and muddy trails mostly. not hardcore mud by any means. So I will try my stock tires for a while and then decide. My uncle has mudlites on his polaris 700.. and I have yet to see that machine get stuck, even in situations where my dad's Stock tire Traxter MAX always boggs down. I will see how I am able to perform in the mud with the lighter and more powerfull 650 Outty first

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

Smart choice to wait for a bit until you decide. Sounds to me what you may like is a good all around trail tire with mud capabilities. They do make such tires, all depends how agressive you want the tread. A few brands make trail tires with 3/4" tread depth and at least one with 1" tread depth. Most all OEM have 1/2" of tread depth. You will also find that 6ply tires are a step up in terms of handling and durability.

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

As a suggestion for consideration.
If you want a good trail tire with very good mud capabilities and are smooth check out MudCats. Not many people are aware of them but they do everything way above average and come close or equal Mudlites in the mud. And you can keep the stock size of your tire and still get a 1" tread depth. And the best part is they won't 'break the bank', very reasonable on price.
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/...kang/MudCat/MudCat.htm

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

Those stock tires are pretty good overall tires. I liked them, rode 2000 miles on them, traded for a set of 25" bighorns, now that is a wandering, skidding tire. Tough tho.

I have 26x14 Terracross Radials, hookup and straight line ride very good.

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'06 Outy 800XT

cool. never heard of mudcats before.. just checked them out on yer link.. really aggressive tread.. surprised they run smooth.

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

They are very smooth and quiet on asphault. Look close at the center area of the tire and you can see overlaping that is what makes them smooth. They are a flat profile tire too, not a crown so you get a good wide footprint without letting all the air out. Mine seem to hook up really good on just about any kind of terrain, rocks, logs, mud, hard dirt, clay, soft ground, what amased me was they hooked up on 'pine-needles' - about the hardest thing to get traction on. (when I was a kid we would slide down hills covered with pine-needles with a card-board box busted open - just like sliding on the snow).

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

Here is another tire that you may not have heard of "Duro Buffalo".
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/...%20TIRES/duro_mud.htm
Picture
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/...s/duro/DI2010BUFF.jpg
These look like good tires - never tried them or ever remember seeing anyone with them but I almost got these to go on the front. Some overlaping so they should be smooth, good channels to spit the mud out to the side, and good crown, lugs for grabbing stuff on the side.

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

I like the buffalo.. looks like a really solid tire. too bad they don;t make it in 26 x 10 x 12 or 26 x 12 x 12
means you have to change the rims i guess right?

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

You don't have to change rims. Word of the wise, wide tires in mud don't work that well unless you plan on paddling across, then you generally want a true all out mud tire with 2" to 3" tread lugs. I have seen many a rider make that mistake because it looks more brutal. What you really want unless you plan on swimming and paddling is a wheel and tire that will sink down and grab some solid ground.
Same principle as putting liquid in tractor tires.

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

so if I have a 26X10X12 tire now.. I can fit that same 10 inch wide, 12 inch diamater rim with a tire that is made for say a 12 inch wide 12 inch diamater rim? I don;t need to change rims?

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

yes

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I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/

is thre a rule as to how much bigger a tire you can use? like no more than 2 inches different? or what is the general rule of matching tires to rims?

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

I need a link or links of where to order Can Am 800 outty tires at. They were riding in unchartered territories. A spike went up through tire and out side. Need tire new asap. Don't wanna go to the dealer and pay over priced bs.

Edited: 05/07/2008 at 08:03 PM by KIKI101

Actually, not sure what it is like in your area, But in my area the dealers are ALWAYS having sales on outlander rims and tires. I was talking to one of the dealers and they said a lot of the guys that buy new machines upgrade to aftermarket tires, and the dealers give them a small credit like a couple hundred bucks and they are left with the stock tires/rims. so I am often seeing cheap tires at the dealer. like $60-70 for rim and tire.

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2007 Outlander MAX XT 650 H.O. E.F.I.

Matt I live in FL and I really don't know if we need rim yet. I haven't seen bike they had to get truck to get it home. But our dealers here are 50 miles away and I was hoping for a ezier fix. With gas prices and all. Our arear is mostly sand and mud and woods.