
11/10/2005 04:19 PM
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ScoobyDFW
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Who thinks it's a possibility for a 720+cc DS motor with forced induction and/or nitro in a lightweight drag frame to run 3.8 seconds in 300 foot sand drags?
Edited: 11/10/2005 at 04:22 PM by ScoobyDFW
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11/10/2005 04:25 PM
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choosetolose04
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I think your going to have to get the turbo to respond a whole lot faster than I have seen them respond to get it done in 300'. Just my opioin though...which dont mean anything because Im nowhere near that....First thing you have to do is figure out how much horsepower to weight ratio you dealing with and then the overall setup (tires/gearing). In fact, dont be too surprised if you dont see some burst into the 3.99 arena as early as next year anyway.......withouth forced induction
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11/10/2005 04:35 PM
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222
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It will happen! Can you believe a single cylinder 4 stroke in the 3's. What is this world coming to? 222
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2005 DUNEFEST 2nd Pro e.t. and open 4 single PLANET SAND 2nd Unl 4 OEM Frame record 4-single
2004 ATVDRA 2nd Natl Open 4 SE Natl 1st Big Bore-4 600', 2nd Unl 300' 2nd Unl 4 - 300' and Unl 600'
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11/10/2005 04:36 PM
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ScoobyDFW
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From your post, it sounds like you think it might be possible. I'm not referring to my DS by the way, just talking concept.
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11/10/2005 04:37 PM
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1BigDSRider
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Very possible. Going to take a superlight chassis and big power.
Are you hinting at something Scooby??
Did you figure out the clutch problem??
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11/10/2005 04:39 PM
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choosetolose04
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Yes, Yes, Yes! I know its possible. But, if "they" cant get the turbo to come on hard off the line...it will not happen with a turbo. Add a little NOS to get it going and then you might be working with something. Sandbombers bike has already ran some 4.2-4.3's already with a stock chassis. He would be there immediately with a drag chassis. Its not rocket science. But take a few cc's off of the motor and add a little more nitro/NOS and then yeah, I believe it is definitely possible
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Edited: 11/10/2005 at 04:40 PM by choosetolose04
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11/10/2005 04:41 PM
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222
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From what I saw, with Suspension, wheelie bar, a little diet, and tire selection your engine is capable of mid 4's or better just like it is (if the clutch will hold). 222
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2006 ALBANY, Track record single 4 1st Sport e.t. 2nd Pro e.t. DUNEFEST, 2nd Open 4 ASDA/Track sin 4 record PLANET SAND, 4 sin NA record 1st Open 4-gas CLASH OF THE TITANS 1st 4 str 4 STROKE WARS 1st Unl 4 and King of the Hill
2005 DUNEFEST 2nd Pro e.t. and open 4 single PLANET SAND 2nd Unl 4 OEM Frame record 4-single
2004 ATVDRA 2nd Natl Open 4 SE Natl 1st Big Bore-4 600', 2nd Unl 300' 2nd Unl 4 - 300' and Unl 600'
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11/10/2005 04:56 PM
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biggerisbetter
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3.8 is gonna be reallllly tuff.
it will take Scooby's motor in a 225lbs chassis with a 120lbs jockey to do it. Or Big Bore with same chassis and a hella lot of NOS!!
Bigger.
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11/10/2005 04:57 PM
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ScoobyDFW
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if this 167HP 350cc banshee can run 3.6 sec (when it was in a stock frame) then I think it's possible for the DS to reach 3.8 sec. video 1Video 2Video 3Video 4
Edited: 11/10/2005 at 05:04 PM by ScoobyDFW
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11/10/2005 05:05 PM
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boat
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I think it would take a cannon to get a ds to go that fast
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11/10/2005 05:17 PM
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choosetolose04
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Originally posted by: boat I think it would take a cannon to get a ds to go that fast
It would take more than your 502 to run anywhere near that fast for sure........
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Edited: 11/10/2005 at 05:18 PM by choosetolose04
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11/10/2005 05:19 PM
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ScoobyDFW
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if the little sparks 450cc drag bike runs 4.3 sec, a huge cc DS motor is capable of a lot faster.
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11/10/2005 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by: boat I think it would take a cannon to get a ds to go that fast
i think boat needs to paddle his way back to the other forum
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11/10/2005 05:51 PM
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boat
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I dont think you could get blast big enuff piece of D og S hit to that fast oh yeh have you beat Robert yet without NOS, DIDNT THINK SO
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11/10/2005 05:52 PM
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55years
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11/10/2005 05:52 PM
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sandbomber
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Originally posted by: ScoobyDFW if the little sparks 450cc drag bike runs 4.3 sec, a huge cc DS motor is capable of a lot faster.
I AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ITS COMING LOL
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11/10/2005 05:53 PM
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boat
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And the only thing heavier than a DS is a C130 cargo plane
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11/10/2005 05:54 PM
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choosetolose04
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Originally posted by: boat I dont think you could get blast big enuff piece of D og S hit to that fast oh yeh have you beat Robert yet without NOS, DIDNT THINK SO
Who are you referring to? Scooby asked whether you thought it was possible or not and you come on here trying to bash the DS's again. Whenever you beat a few of these fast DS's on here then you will have enough room to talk.  Just remember, your little ole 450 will never, you hear that NEVER make enough power to blow past an equally setup DS 650
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11/10/2005 05:54 PM
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sandbomber
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Originally posted by: boat I dont think you could get blast big enuff piece of D og S hit to that fast oh yeh have you beat Robert yet without NOS, DIDNT THINK SO
Why ya bringing up Robert!!!!!!!!! your junk cant hang now? LOL
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11/10/2005 05:56 PM
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boat
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Originally posted by: ScoobyDFW if the little sparks 450cc drag bike runs 4.3 sec, a huge cc DS motor is capable of a lot faster.
Put a bottle on the sparks bike and see what it will do And you put it right a HUGE D onky S hit motor will not be in the finals Why do you think they have to run a turbo or nos just to be fast
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11/10/2005 05:59 PM
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boat
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Robert is the one with the sparks drag bike not me
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