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 02/03/2007 07:34 AM
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I am 65 years old and I have ridden an atv since the first came out, had many Hondas from the 110 to the Rincon 650 but due to health, I want to change to a side by side. I have ridden a rhino, a Prowler, a Ranger and a Mule, mostly on dealers parking lots and I am more incline towards the Rhono and the Polaris.

Going fast is not a necessity since I do not intent to drag race. I use it for huntilg and recretional trail riding both in South Florida and the Tennessee mountains, I try to get away from the heavy mud as much as I can but I have no choice sometime.

I owned a Grizzly 600 and had no trouble with other than it was very noisy. I feel Yamaha builts a more reliable atv than Polaris. My son rides my Rincon and he has had no problem and he rides hard and in heavy mud, His friend bought my Grizzly have not had any problem but it seems mostly evryone else have had so kind of problem, Slipping belt. locked brake, etc. and they seem to be going to the dealer service all the time.

Can you help????

 02/03/2007 02:45 PM
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i was in the same boat as you, which one to buy ? but i decieded on the rager xp, some of my freinds have the rhinoes 450 and 660 both are loud in the cab area and sqeaking breaks about drove me nutz and"cold blooded" up here in michigan,,, imo ntz
 02/04/2007 01:04 PM
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I bought an '07 Ranger XP in Sept. of last year. No complaints, it's been a great machine. However, I think would probably wait a few more months for this...

http://www.atvtv.com/RangerRZR.html

Anyone know much about it?

It looks like a totally smokin' machine. The fact that it's only 50" wide is the most appealing thing about it and, the styling's not bad either. The fact that it can go anywhere my '06 X2 500 can go is most appealing.

I think I'm gonna need a couple of these too.

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 02/13/2007 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by: huntnut
I am 65 years old and I have ridden an atv since the first came out, had many Hondas from the 110 to the Rincon 650 but due to health, I want to change to a side by side. I have ridden a rhino, a Prowler, a Ranger and a Mule, mostly on dealers parking lots and I am more incline towards the Rhono and the Polaris.

I feel Yamaha builts a more reliable atv than Polaris.

Can you help????


You answered your own question! I worked on every brand of motorcycle & atv made most of my life before a bad accident ended my carreer and riding on 2 wheels in 2000. After 366 days in the hospital I wanted a Ranger or Mule (only ones available then) but just could not pay the premium price knowing what I know about their quality & reliability. Luckily a good friend that still works for Yamaha in Cypress told be of their new Grizzly based UTV being developed & encouraged me to wait. Mighty glad I did.
The one & only advantage the Ranger has is weight capacity in the bed, the Rhino is better in every other aspect. So it comes down to use, if you want a sporty woods friendly machine the Rhino is the only choice currently. If you want to haul lots of weight in the bed around your farm the Ranger has a slim advantage. The Prowler is not even worth looking at.

These are just my un-biased observations based on over 30 years or real world hands on experience. If your a Ranger, Prowler or Mule owner please complain to your manufacture, not me.

Rhino, the multi-use swiss army knife of UTV's
Ranger, the medium quality buck knife
Prowler, the dull easily bent butter knife with a plastic handle


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 02/23/2007 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by: huntnut
I am 65 years old and I have ridden an atv since the first came out, had many Hondas from the 110 to the Rincon 650 but due to health, I want to change to a side by side. I have ridden a rhino, a Prowler, a Ranger and a Mule, mostly on dealers parking lots and I am more incline towards the Rhono and the Polaris.

I feel Yamaha builts a more reliable atv than Polaris.

Can you help????


You answered your own question! I worked on every brand of motorcycle & atv made most of my life before a bad accident ended my carreer and riding on 2 wheels in 2000. After 366 days in the hospital I wanted a Ranger or Mule (only ones available then) but just could not pay the premium price knowing what I know about their quality & reliability. Luckily a good friend that still works for Yamaha in Cypress told be of their new Grizzly based UTV being developed & encouraged me to wait. Mighty glad I did.
The one & only advantage the Ranger has is weight capacity in the bed, the Rhino is better in every other aspect. So it comes down to use, if you want a sporty woods friendly machine the Rhino is the only choice currently. If you want to haul lots of weight in the bed around your farm the Ranger has a slim advantage. The Prowler is not even worth looking at.

These are just my un-biased observations based on over 30 years or real world hands on experience. If your a Ranger, Prowler or Mule owner please complain to your manufacture, not me.

Rhino, the multi-use swiss army knife of UTV's
Ranger, the medium quality buck knife
Prowler, the dull easily bent butter knife with a plastic handle



you are so biased!!! you think that yamaha is superior to kaw and polaris???? everyone I know that owns a yammy is always wrenching on them, but you don't see me busting on them

also, the ranger has a higher tow cap than the rhino, it is much wider than the rhino, has a bigger twin motor, which is fuel injected, while the rhino is running the single cylinder carbed model found in the old raptors. The ranger also has seating for three, without needing to drop another 2 grand for a seat and a cage, on demand all wheel drive, and plenty of storage to boot

I take my ranger anywhere my buddies do in their rhino. i even dune my ranger. I can outrun a rhino on the flats, and while duning the small stuff too, completely stock.


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 02/23/2007 04:51 PM
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Very well said Learnem. The Rhino is quicker and a little more nimble but the Ranger is faster, smoother and 1000 times more stable, plus the stuff learnem said.

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 02/24/2007 09:15 AM
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Many of the things you think are better about the Ranger are worse for some. Width, extra seating, no-demand 4x4, fuel injected.
Wider better? Maybe if you just ride sand dunes. Some ride steep narrow wooded trails, not "ride the flats" or sand dunes all day.
Extra Seating? Not everyone wants to haul people around, extra seating is a bad thing for sport riding. I wish I had only one seat.
Try to fix a fuel injection system along the trail sometime you will learn why serious riders prefer carburetors.
Rangers AWD systen is not ideal for my type of use. I prefer to control my machine, not let the machine control me. YOU CANT LOCK IN TRUE 4X4 IN A POLARIS.

If I rode nothing but wide open spaces I might consider a Polaris. But I dont and the guy that asked the question said he uses it in the woods and if you dont think 10 inches makes a difference ask your boyfriend.

Yamaha sells many more Rhinos than Polaris does Rangers, how can this be if they are better? Polaris has been selling Rangers twice as long as Rhinos. Would they not develope some brand loyalty over the years if they are so much better? Explain that one.

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 02/24/2007 07:39 PM
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In my opinion the Rhino is a good machine. It is nimble on the trails. ( a little more narrow than the Polaris) and there are tons of mods that can be done to it. A lot of my friends have Rhinos and love them. I would say that if it where for hunting or around the farm the Polaris might me your favorite. But for all day trail riding in my opinion I would rather have the seating of the Rhino than the straight seat of the Polaris. This is coming from someone that has back trouble.

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 02/24/2007 09:44 PM
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Many of the things you think are better about the Ranger are worse for some. Width, extra seating, no-demand 4x4, fuel injected.
Wider better? Maybe if you just ride sand dunes. Some ride steep narrow wooded trails, not "ride the flats" or sand dunes all day.
Extra Seating? Not everyone wants to haul people around, extra seating is a bad thing for sport riding. I wish I had only one seat.
Try to fix a fuel injection system along the trail sometime you will learn why serious riders prefer carburetors.
Rangers AWD systen is not ideal for my type of use. I prefer to control my machine, not let the machine control me. YOU CANT LOCK IN TRUE 4X4 IN A POLARIS.

If I rode nothing but wide open spaces I might consider a Polaris. But I dont and the guy that asked the question said he uses it in the woods and if you dont think 10 inches makes a difference ask your boyfriend .

Yamaha sells many more Rhinos than Polaris does Rangers, how can this be if they are better? Polaris has been selling Rangers twice as long as Rhinos. Would they not develope some brand loyalty over the years if they are so much better? Explain that one.


Now was that really necessary? There was nothing said to you in bad taste, just an opinion different then your own. I'm gonna chalk this one up to you maybe having a keyboard malfunction or something. Watch what you say in the future(especially when a mod is involved in the thread) and get that keyboard checked out!

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 02/24/2007 11:46 PM
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I guess we have different opinions on what is bad taste as well. I answered another guys question and your buddy did not like my opinion and attacked me. Called my "biased" then YOU agreed with him. You 2 drew first blood not me. You reep what you sew.
Keep your comments on topic and not about me if you dont want the same in spades. Feel free to report me, any open minded person that reads it will agree you 2 turned it personal not me. It's quite obvious I was talking about machines before your insults.

In short, dont call people names if you cant take it yourself.

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 02/25/2007 12:23 AM
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I guess we have different opinions on what is bad taste as well. I answered another guys question and your buddy did not like my opinion and attacked me. Called my "biased" then YOU agreed with him. You 2 drew first blood not me. You reep what you sew.
Keep your comments on topic and not about me if you dont want the same in spades. Feel free to report me, any open minded person that reads it will agree you 2 turned it personal not me. It's quite obvious I was talking about machines before your insults.

In short, dont call people names if you cant take it yourself.


Calling someone biased is falling well short of telling a man to ask his boyfriend about 10 inches. I didn't agree with him I told him "very well said" and I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours.
"In short" I don't need to report you and if you can't figure it out ask around and someone will tell you why. The first post was a friendly reminder to watch what you post and a not so direct "warning" This one is more direct. Watch what you post.
If you feel compelled to keep this going PM me and give the poster back their thread.

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 02/25/2007 10:48 AM
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Hold on boys,no need for a fight! The man(65yrsold) said he needed a woods ride....Well just from my position,the Polaris is used here in "Bama" for guide service,because it is bigger,I wouldn't want one because of the width.Both machines have their minuses's...The biggest problem I have here,is the re sale value..you can't get a Honda,Yamaha,are Kawasaki and Suzuki dealer to work on them or take them on trade,if you decide later on to change...and to out right sale one here,you will take a big beating......I tried both vehicles(in a hunting situation) before I bought.For me,the Yamaha,even with the noise was still the best for my application.The seat has saved my back.Like my Robertsdale neighbor,the Farm for the Polaris and the hunting is for the Rhino.You guys kiss and make up! HAaaaaaaaaaaHAaaaaaHAaaaaaaaaaaaa

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 02/25/2007 11:44 AM
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If someone made the HUGE mistake on making you a moderator that is a shame. To be a good moderator you need the ability to moderate. You cant join in and endorse someones insult 3 times then say "PM me if you want to respond." If you wanted to handle this by PM you should have done so from the beginning, not after you threaten me in public and expect me to be meek? You really dont see the conflict there? Seriously?

You can't quote a persons entire post then later down the road say "well I agreed with everything except the bad part" life just does not work that way. I no longer wonder why so few people use this forum... Let me help you out here, when the other guy insulted me first your response which came about one hour later should have been something like. "Hey I prefer the Ranger also but lets not call other members insulting names just because they have different opinions and experiences." That would be an example of moderating.

huntnut, if your still around I'm sorry other members insults and now threats have muddied up your topic along with me defending my rights. It's a shame. There are many forums on the net that are actually moderated by moderators.

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 02/25/2007 11:52 AM
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Moderator, a Latin word for manager, ruler, director, can refer to:

Moderator provinciae, the title of certain Roman provincial governors.
a Scots and (originally) Scottish English, gender-neutral word that approximates chairman, someone who convenes, heads and "moderates" the discussion in a meeting, such as the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting

Above is just part of the definition of the word "moderator" note the word "nonpartisan" in the last sentence. I can post the definition of nonpartisan as well if you need it.


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 02/25/2007 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by: huntnut
I am 65 years old and I have ridden an atv since the first came out, had many Hondas from the 110 to the Rincon 650 but due to health, I want to change to a side by side. I have ridden a rhino, a Prowler, a Ranger and a Mule, mostly on dealers parking lots and I am more incline towards the Rhono and the Polaris.

Going fast is not a necessity since I do not intent to drag race. I use it for huntilg and recretional trail riding both in South Florida and the Tennessee mountains, I try to get away from the heavy mud as much as I can but I have no choice sometime.

I owned a Grizzly 600 and had no trouble with other than it was very noisy. I feel Yamaha builts a more reliable atv than Polaris. My son rides my Rincon and he has had no problem and he rides hard and in heavy mud, His friend bought my Grizzly have not had any problem but it seems mostly evryone else have had so kind of problem, Slipping belt. locked brake, etc. and they seem to be going to the dealer service all the time.

Can you help????


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get the ranger it is the best i have had a 6x6 for 3 years and never had a problem.It has great power and never gets stuck and can pull anything.If you want to know more message me i wll let you know.

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 02/25/2007 01:39 PM
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I recently had the same issue RHINO or RANGER XP. 2 days ago i purchased the rhino, for numerous reasons, width for trail riding, engine braking for steep hills, comfort of seating............... anyway go to yamaha-motor.com and check out there side x side comparison with the ranger, prowler and 2 up atvs, you can even request a dvd video (which I recommend watching before yoy spend 10,000.00 + dollars on a side x side. Hope this helps.
 02/25/2007 07:12 PM
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Mr Hunt Nut, look in the classfied adds in your local newspaper,see how many Rhinos are for sale, then look up the Rangers!.................see how many of those are for sale........

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 02/25/2007 10:18 PM
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It sounds to me like the rhino would be your best choice, due to the fact that they are a little smaller and would work better on trails. This is a TRUE unbiased opinion as I work at polaris and have a Arctic cat prowler. Everybody always has that friend or relative that doesnt like this or that, just buy what you want and make your own experiences. I love my prowler and the rangers are good (I make them) there just not meant for tight trails.
 02/26/2007 07:47 AM
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Thanks for all your answers, I have been back and forth to the dealers and I decided on the Rhino, that is if I can find one. I wanted a Green one and none of the dealers near me have one. However some of the dealers I went also have Rangers on their lots on all colors, do they make more Rangers than Yamaha or are the Yamaha selling faster?

I was offered what I considered a great deal on a 07 Red or blue $9,800 out of the door and $10,900 otd for the silver colored. I think I will wait for a green one to arrive and hope the deal sticks.
 02/26/2007 01:22 PM
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Hunt Nut, I bought mine for 8695.00 plus tax.The reason there are so many Rangers on the lots,is because the arn't selling...Get on the internet and look up some of your dealers that are in a 1-200 mile radius, you may be able to make a deal,especially if you can find a 06 model...I think you can find one much cheaper if you look around...hunting season is over,and the dealers will make deals...

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