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 12/06/2005 10:11 PM
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stevedr83
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Hi Everyone,

There is a new 800cc Go Kart coming out of China for around $6100 to $7000 depending on who you get it from. Looks very cool, even has a winch, probably harbor freight quality. Anyone purchase one of these yet. I see it goes over 75 miles per hour, that's pretty good here is the specs. Looking for feeedback, thought about getting one of these in the crate and putting it together myself just like the Japanese, buy a gallon of loctite and use it on everything.

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1) Engine style: 3 cylinder, 4-stroke, liquid cooling
2) Displacement (cc): 796
3) Rated power (kw/rpm): 26.2/5500
4) Max torque (N.m/rpm: 57/ (2500-3000)
5) Start: electric
6) Shift: 4FWD, 1BK
7) Dimensions (L x W x H) (mm): 2900/1700/1550
8) Packing dimensions (mm): 2950 x 1500 x 800
9) Wheelbase (mm): 2200
10) Front track (mm): 1450
11) Rear track (mm): 1450
12) Front tire: 25 x 8-12
13) Rear tire: 25 x 10-12
14) Ground clearance (mm): 190
15) Climb ability: =25degrees
16) Final drive: DIFF+CVJ
17) Brake: hydraulic disk
18) Brake track (m/30km/h): =7
19) Top speed (km/h): =80
20) Front: A-arm independent suspension
21) Rear: independent suspension
22) Dry weight (kg): 430

 12/08/2005 12:15 PM
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Do you mean this one ? Look interesting, price wise is a very good, but Q. is what is a quality of it.

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 12/08/2005 05:26 PM
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stevedr83
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Yep that's the one I saw someone selling one for $5800, so there is a wide range of pricing on this. I will wait to see what feedback is.

Here is another web site

Fixed the link:

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 12/08/2005 05:52 PM
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I Bought one of the 250cc models from another supplier for about $2400.00 on ebay and the thing is a total peice of sht. The problem with these items is that there are very few part stocking destributors. So buyer beware and check for parts AND confirm before you buy.

I Thought I did my home work, and found out they lie like dogs! Cant even get a muffler that fell of the first week, and now I cant get a phone call returned.

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 12/08/2005 06:01 PM
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[L=Text]http://www.cobrasales.com[/L

FYI The company that suppied mine is here. They all MFG. in the same alley over their.

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 12/08/2005 07:01 PM
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That thing's got to be very fast with a 3 cylinder engine and it's only 500lbs....but I'd be very concerned about the quality...the guy selling it on Ebay doesn't even know who manufactured the engine.

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It does look real nice from the 1 pic. It would be nice to see more pics from a bunch of views . Even with more pics I wouldnt want to be the first one to buy one. Especially if i was going to have it shipped. And the guy who is selling it cant even tell how many cylinders it has. You got to wonder if hes even seen one or if they just drop shipped the crates to the first 2 customers. I also find it interesting that they say they sold 2 of them but there isnt any feedback for a sale of one yet. Ill keep a eye on it, and if any one leaves feed back for buying one I'll ask them how they like it.

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 12/08/2005 08:12 PM
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Number 19 on your specifications list reads "top speed (km/hr)=80. That's KILOMETERS per hour which is about 50 miles/hour.


OK, just checked that link to the E-bay sale and I see where you got that 75 mph figure.
The other spec that doesn't match is the weight. The E-bay seller says 579 pounds, but number 22 on the above specs lists the dry weight as 430 kgs. That equals 948 pounds. Not even close to what the E-bay guy is claiming. And with only 35 horsepower it wouldn't be as fast as any of the current big bore quads. A 250 EX should be able to take it in a drag, but maybe not quite in a high speed run.

 12/08/2005 08:17 PM
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I think the web site says closer to 900 lbs. I fixed the link to the site above. It has a lot of different pictures with different angles.

 12/08/2005 11:49 PM
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Just by looking at it I the same low fidelity corner cutting tecniques that go in to all the rest of the lower cc carts. But when you multiply in those weight factors I'd be a little scared. Your talking big bucks for that new cart. Its going to leave you stranded some were with way to much investment in it. If your going to roll those big bucks I would get the Desert Cart.

Look at the skinny twiggs coming out of the differential suppose to be axles. I'd hate to see the CV joints. I bet the bust left and right on you leaving you stranded. Come on, if you have not learned your lesson already on the 150cc carts about their designs then you are going to get burned on the 800cc. I'm being rough because I dont want you ruining your false expectation that its got 800cc and it must out perform the 150cc five times over. Wait till the first guy buys it and jumps 2 feet in the air and it twists the rear swing arm links busts the CVs and sends the broken axles into proplers until they catch and snap off the yokes on the differential. I can see it now. Good luck, your going to need it.

I notice its much larger than the small tight 150cc carts. If your in that size class already just go with a small VW powered sand rail and any part is available and it could be set up for street leagal.

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 12/08/2005 11:59 PM
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Just a test. Call the dealer and ask them you want to order the pinion gear in the differential and see what happens. Hahahahahaha!

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 12/09/2005 06:38 AM
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After looking at more pics Ive got to wonder what small car that engine came out of. It looks to have a timing belt and a car like alternator too. I definitely wouldnt be the first one to buy one without test riding it some where that you gould get some air with it and see what happens then. There are a few guys here who have turned their 150 carts into decent performing carts, so anything is possible. I just wonder how likely it is.

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 12/09/2005 10:35 AM
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The motor is a 3 cylinder knock off of a Geo Metro engine. I saw one sitting out at Test Hill at Gordons Well. I have a friend that has ordered one so we should know by new years. Since he's a gear head, he's going to do some mods to it. If it get's broke, he and his buddies will build a better part. I've heard a small turbo may be worked into the mix after evaluating the product.

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 12/09/2005 11:06 AM
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Quote

Originally posted by: ThePhantomRider
The motor is a 3 cylinder knock off of a Geo Metro engine. I saw one sitting out at Test Hill at Gordons Well. I have a friend that has ordered one so we should know by new years. Since he's a gear head, he's going to do some mods to it. If it get's broke, he and his buddies will build a better part. I've heard a small turbo may be worked into the mix after evaluating the product.

TPR


That will be a great, if you can keep us posted, about his experience with this buggy. Because sure will be not superior quality, but don't forget we are talking about two seat off road go cart with price tag less then higher end quads. We need to give them little slack, I think. Don't forget almost all kid size quads are made in china or taiwan and some of then are sold here under brand names and their quality grow impressively . Will be interesting how this buggies will developed . But only way to find out will be from owners not from sellers, who don;t even know how many cylinder engines are in it.
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 12/09/2005 11:10 AM
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Quote

Originally posted by: ThePhantomRider
The motor is a 3 cylinder knock off of a Geo Metro engine. I saw one sitting out at Test Hill at Gordons Well. I have a friend that has ordered one so we should know by new years. Since he's a gear head, he's going to do some mods to it. If it get's broke, he and his buddies will build a better part. I've heard a small turbo may be worked into the mix after evaluating the product.

TPR


Thanks TPR!!

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 12/11/2005 09:12 AM
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I know I have seen these on ebay from motous for $3700. That's a good price. Not sure if it's a good vehicle.
 12/11/2005 04:08 PM
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Man I tell ya, I bought a Honda knock-off generator that was made in China once for $300.
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Never, ever again...
 12/13/2005 01:56 PM
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stevedr83
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Here is some more pictures of this machine, plus a video. I don't know about you but this thing looks like a lot of fun, can't wait to hear reviews.


New Pictures plus Video
 12/14/2005 12:48 PM
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 12/16/2005 12:36 AM
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junglegeorge,

I guess it's my fault for not clarifying to this board what my intentions are. I am interested in a off road vehicle that is fun, dependable and not very expensive. Something I can go out with my family and have some fun in the desert or the dunes without having a k1000 Snap On Box in tow. Most of my life I've been involved in some type of HP boats and/or race cars. I'm not looking for the latest chrome moly frame or latest cat with titanium carillo rods, bow tie angle heads with an aluminum big block powered by some type of whipple or pro charger. I don't want to have to worry about carrying 20 sets of jets or having to drain the carb because alcohol eats the bowls. Also I really don't want to join the Jones club and fork out $42000 for the new diesel crew cab, $48000 for the bad a** toy hauler and finally $65000 for the rail all so I can fit in at the Dunes, been there done that let me off that train.

Now I could care less if this Go Kart falls of the face of the planet it just looked rather interesting, I also see a Joyner that has 650cc motor kind of interesting. Frankly, I wish Honda would come out with something like this, I would buy it in a heartbeat, but they're not going to because it will only be a matter of time before some jacka** puts his twelve year old son in the thing who drives it on the 405 feeway in LA gets smashed by an eighteen wheeler and sues Honda for not disclosing that it is dangerous for a twelve year old to drive on the 405 freeway in Los Angeles in a Go Kart. Also, I'm not really a fan of the Rhino to me it looks like a golf cart, just my opinion.


So.....No I am not marketing this thing, but maybe you can come up with an alternative. Something that is small enough to fit on the desert trails but tough enough for the sand.
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 12/16/2005 11:10 AM
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Will be interesting, if they all are made by same china company and, if any is more quality wise then other.

This look little different.
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