03/22/2008 07:10 PM
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outofline
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I and 3 of my boys took all 4 Jets out today. We had a good time and was looking to be incident free until my 14 year old ended up with a broken front spinal on the Red 250 in a 20' deep rivine.
I know we put the quads through some rough stuff today but I don't think it should have broke. Oh well, the Red 250 seems to be my problem child!
It also broke the caliper when it gave way! 
Other then that we had a good time, oh ya you can ride it with just 3 wheels. I had a good time getting it out of the revine but the Jet did power up this big hill with just the 3 tires.
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03/22/2008 07:25 PM
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kczukiman
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Dang I trust he didn't get hurt?Glad you all had fun never the less.
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03/22/2008 08:00 PM
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outofline
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No, he was going slow and was just fine!
Here is a new page on my site for todays outing!
03/22/08 Outing
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03/23/2008 12:15 AM
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balanis03
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Wow thats a bummer but hopefully you can fix it soon and get back to riding. And thats good you guys are alright!
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03/25/2008 07:24 PM
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Thats a bummer outofline, Good to know he wasnt hurt. Thats the 2nd one of those Ive read about.
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79 Odyssey
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05/06/2008 04:25 AM
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outofline
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Finally got the Red 250's spinal replaced. The first spinal they sent me had too large of holes for the upper and lower ball joints. They had me ship my broken one back to Jetmoto and with in a few days I received the correct spinal and it went right on and all seems well. I need to do realignment on all 4 jets now that the joints have lessened up.
So as of right now all 4 Jets are in reasonably good running condition but the summer is just beginning!
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05/06/2008 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by: outofline
So as of right now all 4 Jets are in reasonably good running condition but the summer is just beginning!
You dont sound too confident outofline.....do you have any specific concerns?
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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport 07 90cc Mini Ute 06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro 06 Jetmoto 200 06 Jetmoto 150 06 Jetmoto 125 04 Yamoto 150 01 KTM 400 EXC 92 WR 250 91 CR 250 88 YZ 80 85 CR 500 83 XL 600 82 XR 200 79 XR 75 79 Odyssey 73 Bultaco 360 71 Rickman Montessa 250 70 Rupp Enduro 69 Honda 50
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05/06/2008 04:54 PM
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outofline
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No, I just know these atv's. Trust me I would love to say hey I've got all the bugs worked out and they are sound now, but just like the swing arm and the spinal neither should have EVER broke! The Red 250 is still blowing smoke, not sure what is wrong there or how long that motor will last. I knew I was taking the inexpensive route by buying Chinese and that repairs were going to be there and these have not let me down!
Wish I could have been the Jetmoto Poster Child but I am reporting the reality of these 4 atv's. I have worked hard to show the fun we have had and supplied more positive photos of the Jets then anyone on here but reality is that they are always in need of repairs of some sort. I don't think the Jets are any different then all the other Chinese atv's out there in the build quality aspect, I think they have taken possibly a lead in design over certain aspects for instance the stability and suspension I feel is better then alot of the other chinese atv's (we are yet to roll any one of our atv's and that is with beginner riders) but the over all part quality is the same you will find on any other chinese atv. This in my opinion is were Jet needs to improve on!
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05/06/2008 08:45 PM
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Your absolutely right about the swing arm and the spindle. Should never have broke.
I still think you're the Jetmoto Poster Child.  ..Maybe "the good , the bad and the ugly" version.  But you have told it like it is and also shown all the fun your family has had despite the problems.
I have said this before but the Chinese quad boom reminds me of the minibike boom of the 70's. Lots of good, bad and ugly back then too. And lots of people, including myself learned a lot working on and riding our low budget toys.
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05/06/2008 10:12 PM
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outofline
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Know what you mean, my parents bought us JC Penny's mini bikes back in the 70's and I know we had many problems with them from burning up Tecumseh motors, bad brake design and so on. We did manage to fix and mod them and got several years of playing on them. This is the same type of memories I wanted to give my kids with the brand new Jets over used who knows what miss and match big 4's and so far I feel we have accomplished that. And I'll bet the things they remember the most is the brake down incidences. I am just glad to date no one has been hurt as a result of a malfunction.
Who knows perhaps this year we won't see as many problems and the tow ropes can stay on the rear bumper and the jumper cables can stay under the seat. I'm on a 14 day 12hr shift work schedule right now so it will still be a bit before we get out, but we are looking forward to riding as soon as we can!
I can handle the Good, bad and the Ugly tile! I have hung around here to learn from others to keep my Jets going and also help someone else who has taken the same atv route. Will I tell others to buy Jetmotos, yes I would but they need to know they will need some wrenching from time to time.
Ya know had I just bought one Jetmoto and that Jetmoto that was delivered to me was my Blue 250 I would be singing many praises, to date my Blue 250 has not given me any problems other then some rubber parts going bad. I have put more miles on it then any of my Jets and have rode harder then any other and it's still running great and is my most reliable Jet. But where I have 4 Jets I have seen the good, bad and the ugly!
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05/11/2008 10:26 AM
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JC Penney minibikes were pretty cool. If I remember right they had a all chrome one with seat suspension. Im sure your kids memories will be just as vivid as yours..the good, bad and the ugly.
I think your doing a great job here at the forums. Your videos are very cool and its pretty easy to see all the fun you and your family have together.
Good thing you didnt get only the Red 250. You would be less than thrilled by now for sure. How have the 150's been?
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05/11/2008 09:01 PM
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outofline
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The 150, now let's see!
The Red 150 has been a decent atv for the most part. I had the problems at first with the float being adjusted wrong and the gas cap rubber seal not having a hole both of which made the first couple outings a real pain. I had the front left wheel that was built skeewampus and had a slight bounce and would not hold air for long. Jet sent me a new tire when I asked for a rim. But I put some slime in it and in the dirt you don't notice the slight bounce. The Choke broke at the fender but I did not bring that up even when it was still under warranty. It still works but will not stay choked with out holding the lever up. No biggy because it does not require much choking. I have some bad rubber parts on it as all the jets. But all in all it has been a fairly descent little atv.
The Blue 150 has been a great runner even a little more powerful then the red 150. My only complaint with it has been the shifter pops out of Drive when it's under a load. I have asked both John and Eugene what can be done but have gotten no where with them. They just don't seem to care about it is the impression I get. So I have adjusted it til I'm blue and have found the only way to keep it from popping out is to have the shifter so tight it's hard to shift. I know the new 150's have a different shifter set up and I'm just guessing it's because they discovered it was not too great of a design. I asked Eugene if I could have the new shifter set up he said it will not fit mine. Not sure if that's true because I have not seen the set up close yet. The Blue 150 has been a good atv other then that. And can't explain this but the Jetmoto decals are still on and fine on the 150's but have lost most all on the 250's with the same care on all.
I wish Jetmoto would have given new decals for my 250's. They look ugly with out them and they fell off before the warranty went up. But again they just seem not to care!
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05/12/2008 08:11 PM
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jetmotoracer
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see i ride the crap out of it, iv learned to ignore the stuf. iv put mine over a few times, the problem i have is that i have no back brakes, u kinda need them when taking a 60 mile an hour turn, and i ride in pits. things iv done, moved shocks to outer holes, lower tire pressure and msr bars(look sick, not real comfortable). point is i guess you have to ignore it to a point, and take the risk when you get on it something may go wrong.
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05/13/2008 07:51 PM
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outofline
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Jet, post some pics of your jet so we can see how it's held up!
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05/14/2008 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by: outofline
The 150, now let's see!
The Red 150 has been a decent atv for the most part. I had the problems at first with the float being adjusted wrong and the gas cap rubber seal not having a hole both of which made the first couple outings a real pain. I had the front left wheel that was built skeewampus and had a slight bounce and would not hold air for long. Jet sent me a new tire when I asked for a rim. But I put some slime in it and in the dirt you don't notice the slight bounce. The Choke broke at the fender but I did not bring that up even when it was still under warranty. It still works but will not stay choked with out holding the lever up. No biggy because it does not require much choking. I have some bad rubber parts on it as all the jets. But all in all it has been a fairly descent little atv.
The Blue 150 has been a great runner even a little more powerful then the red 150. My only complaint with it has been the shifter pops out of Drive when it's under a load. I have asked both John and Eugene what can be done but have gotten no where with them. They just don't seem to care about it is the impression I get. So I have adjusted it til I'm blue and have found the only way to keep it from popping out is to have the shifter so tight it's hard to shift. I know the new 150's have a different shifter set up and I'm just guessing it's because they discovered it was not too great of a design. I asked Eugene if I could have the new shifter set up he said it will not fit mine. Not sure if that's true because I have not seen the set up close yet. The Blue 150 has been a good atv other then that. And can't explain this but the Jetmoto decals are still on and fine on the 150's but have lost most all on the 250's with the same care on all.
I wish Jetmoto would have given new decals for my 250's. They look ugly with out them and they fell off before the warranty went up. But again they just seem not to care!
Have you tried turning the choke knob while lifting it? Mine has a free spot and a stuck spot while twisting the knob.
I have no idea about the new reverse setup. I did see the one you had a recommended a rubber boot for it.
Cmon John??...Send the guy some new stickers!!
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05/14/2008 10:11 PM
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outofline
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Have you tried turning the choke knob while lifting it? Mine has a free spot and a stuck spot while twisting the knob.
The plastic that hold the cable to the fender is broke. This happened for no real reason about the 4th month in.
We will see this year if the tighter adjusted shifter will keep it from popping out! it's almost so tight the younger boys can't shift it to easy.
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05/15/2008 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by: outofline
The plastic that hold the cable to the fender is broke. This happened for no real reason about the 4th month in.
We will see this year if the tighter adjusted shifter will keep it from popping out! it's almost so tight the younger boys can't shift it to easy.
4th month? that was still under warranty wasnt it?
No good having it pop out of gear...scary if your going up a hill. Id sacrifice tighter shifting to try and prevent it popping out of gear. Bummer it doesnt work like the other 150, good deal if you found a way around it.
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05/15/2008 03:49 PM
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outofline
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Ya, the cable was still under warranty and so was the tranny problem. You can see it pop out of gear on one of my videos "Day out racing" when I was on the 150 racing my oldest on his Red 250. I had come to the corner closest to the camera and when I put on the power the trans popped out of drive and almost lost me the race but did manage to over take my kid on the last corner as he took it wide and I cut in tight. We have had it pop out a couple times going up a hill and it does get scary.
I would love to have some new decals. Being that I have 4 Jets (and I'm cheap) I decided I'm not going to put money into performance or esthetic parts and only try to keep them going for as long as I can. I'm fine with their over all performance, I mean I'm not out to win any races against other atvs and they look just fine stock so they are just toys to play on.
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05/15/2008 06:01 PM
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balanis03
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Hey outofline and MWQ,
I just took my 250 for a spin yesterday to try it out the 12 tooth does have some kick but im still trying to adjust the bike to perfect conditions. I can get it off the ground about a foot to a foot and a half. I maybe able to get higher but im still new to picking up the front wheels.
I have a question i have the Air flow screw about 1 1/2 turns out but i noticed if i give it throttle and let go of it i hear backfiring form the exhaust and its not just one or two pops there several backfiring pops. Im i running lean do i have to turn screw out a little more?? Hope you can help on this guys.
Also Outofline does your 250 chain make a sound as it turns mine has always done this when riding and at first i thought the chain need to be replaced but i already changed it and same issue just wondering if thats the way its supposed to sound?? Hope all is good on your bike Thanks
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05/15/2008 06:14 PM
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outofline
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I can get it off the ground about a foot to a foot and a half
You mean popping a wheelie or jumping? Dirt or on pavement? On dirt I can not even get the front end up but can on pavement by popping the clutch. I have seen other Chinese 250's that can pop a wheelie no problem with out popping the clutch. It' all in the gearing. I still would like a 13 on my 250's. i would be worried a 12 would kill the top end?
The chain on the 250's slaps the plastic slider on the swing arm and makes an annoying noise while riding. But i can't say I have heard the chain make any real noise other then what a chain would normally make. I think the spring on the Idler could be a lot stronger and this may stop that slapping sound!? I have been thinking about going to a Honda dealer and try to find a tighter spring but that cost money and again I'm cheap so I guess I will put up with the noise! 
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