Might be helpful to Jetmoto to have our wish list for the 08 Jetmoto line up. Any improvements or changes on any of the Jetmoto models you think would make these quads closer to what you would hope a good inexpensive quad could and should be.


I will start;

-I would like to see better quality Rubber used on the parts.
-Better gearing on the 250's
-Better quality build of the Mufflers on the 150 Sport

I will add more as I think of it!

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Jetmoto ATV 150 Sport Blue
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Honda CM450c
78 Honda CB750
79 Honda XL500

better shocks...lol.... and the chain cuss the guy at my local moto sports shop told me i alredy needed a new one

The muffler dosen't rattle on mine. Some things I'm willing to accept to keep the price low. The chain is one, No OE chain is really that good no matter WHERE it comes from IMO. Maybe go to a 520 chain?

Here's my list,

1. MUCH better quality ball joints and tierod ends. AND I MEAN M U C H better!!!

2. Maybe stretch the wheelbase out a little.

3. Change the angle of the thumb throttle slightly. Closed it is at too close to a right angle to the handlebars.

4. Improve the quality of the reflector plating inside the headlight/taillight. Also neither have any real seal, and water get's into both of them. The water keeps blowing headlight bulbs at $8.00 a pop.

5. A longer rear shock, maybe an 1" or 2".

6. More accessory parts.

7. Braces under the rear fenders. If they get too much mud on them they sag under the weight, and might break going over bumps.

8. A stronger chain tensioner spring.

9. Did I mention ball joints? ;-)

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2007 Polaris Hawkeye - Drilled carb slide / DynoJet / SuperTrapp IDSX muffler / Clutch roller mod / Douglas Spyder rims / 23" Swamp Fox tires / Venom winch
2007 JetMoto 250 Sport
2000 Jeep XJ Cherokee

-A little wider Handle Bars
-More Grease Zerk locations
-Better Air Filter set up on the 250's
-Increase Turning Radius (mostly on the 150's)

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Jetmoto ATV 250 Sport Blue
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Jetmoto ATV 150 Sport Blue
Jetmoto ATV 150 Sport Red
Honda CM450c
78 Honda CB750
79 Honda XL500

Sealed Air box.
Japanesse-size battery tray so we can get one locally that will fit AND have enough CCAs.
Larger bolt pattern on the rear sprocket hub.
Grease zirks where they are needed.
520 chain
Longer, stiffer (heh) rear spring that needs little preload.
Rubber seals on the taillight housing
wider handlebars.
bigger gas tank.

Optional Front rack (mounting to bumper mount)
Optional plastic that removes headlights so you can install a set that will actually light up something other than the ground 10' in front of you.

-JNY

sorry to chang the flow but that would be a larege inprovement is they made the gas tank BIGGER cuss i ride for 45 and its alredy almost halv way emptie....... now we resume the flow.........

better tires..(good in sand but not in woods)

shifter mounted diffrenty so u can actually reach it with out takeing ur foot off the foot pegs...lol

Don't forget a redesign on the rear axle housing, better bearings all around, and a redesign on the lower rear shock mount.

For those of you who have ridden your quads pretty hard or have put a few hours on them I would suggest you pull your rear shock. Inspect the lower mount to make sure the bolt holes are still round and not ob-longed or oval shaped. The metal used was too thin and there was not enough material used for the end of the bolt holes. The shock will rip itself right out of its mount. This area is going to fail from general use, bottoming out, and jumping the quad. I guarantee this and have seen it first hand. I do consider this to be a major safety issue for a rider and one that needs to be fixed. I know the issue has never been discussed and that it probably hasn't because it hasn't happened to any of you yet. This area will give out on you eventually, and God forbid it happens at high speed or in the air.

I must apologize to both Jetmoto and Raceway for the bad write up, but since this thread was started I thought I would voice my concerns and my opinion as to what upgrades should be done. And for those of you wanting a stiffer rear shock I would almost guarantee the mount will fail rapidly from the added pressure.

How about stronger metal used for the frames? Because not only did I see the shock mount fail I also saw a bent frame and frame supports. How about a longer seat for larger riders? I'm sure the list can go on and on. I do remember an issue with the stickers not lasting for more than a couple of washes on the the quads.

Here is the plain and simple truth about the Chinese quad. The quads will never change in quality because the parts used will always be substandard. In order to keep the price down, the parts used will be cheap and unsafe.

Let's say Jetmoto uses better parts and they change a lot of these issues on the quads. The price is going to go up. When the price gets close to the $2500.00 range why would anyone consider the Chinese 250 when you could purchase a used Honda or Suzuki 250 for the same price?

It will be interesting to see the quality of the 08' Jetmoto 250's. How about a totally new design of the quad all together instead of copying one with crappy parts? A new one should be built from the ground up with good quality parts. If Jetmoto is trying to make a name for themselves I think they should start from scratch once again and build something that is not such a Hazard to a rider.

SB

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'07 Honda TRX 250EX
'05 BMS 150 SOLD this piece of _RAP, but it served its purpose.
'04 TRX 300EX
'04 Suzuki DRZ 250
'04 Yamaha TTR 90
'04 Honda CRF 150
'03 Honda CRF 150
'02 Yamaha YZ125
'02 Yamaha YZ426F
'81 Honda 185 ATC

Mild Torture Test
http://media.putfile.com/150cc-Quad

I think part of the problem with that, smb05, is that they have chinesse engineers who are concerned with thier manufacturing costs. I don't do much jumping, and I have been down for more than I have been riding, so I don't know about the shock and frame. Which revision of the 07 do you have? There have been changes to the rear shocks (spring rates) and the shock mount since they started shipping the 07. Eugene told me they were considering a longer shock on a better mount when I spoke to him.

I agree, a broken mount is more than a bad thing. I will check mine out when I get the sprocket in this week or next. I have a lot of things to do to the quad and I've been sort of consumed with my new car for 2 weeks.

-JNY

smb05, does not have a Jetmoto but had witnessed MWQ's first ride and failure of his rear spring mount. I have ridden mine a lot and have jumped and woopiedude and have not experienced and rear mount problems on neither one of my 250's or 150's. I am not saying it can't or won't fail but to date all is completely in tacked and I do inspect it often. I may be wrong but MWQ is the only one to date that has had this failure!? Jetmoto has I believe already addressed this and have made changes on current production runs!

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Jetmoto ATV 250 Sport Blue
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Honda CM450c
78 Honda CB750
79 Honda XL500

Yeah, I checked and mine looks solid. I think it was fixed. I know Jetmoto has been changing things in production on the fly. It just takes a while for them to trickle-down to the consumers.

-JNY

As far as I know Im the only one with that failure. Im also probubly the only expert level enduro rider to ride one.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

MWQ, can you post pics so we know exactly what your failure looks like? Have you repaired it yet? Can you get back into the ball game with us here, you have been really no show here for us!

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Jetmoto ATV 250 Sport Blue
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Honda CM450c
78 Honda CB750
79 Honda XL500

Im sure if you keep the bolts tight you wont have a problem. Just like the rear sprocket bolts. If they loosen up, the bolts will shear.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

Im sorry for not being more in the game with all this. I started the hype and then you and a few others have kept it going.

My story is simple...sort of...I got extremely pre occupied with my CNC Mill in early March, It took about a month to get going and then... it broke. Being the cheap old guy I am. I insisted on saving 3K by not buying a new servo motor. Instead I fixed it by gluing the magnets back in the housing. That cost me about 2 1/2 months of my spare time. I was at a few cnc forums asking a bunch of questions and learning a few thing to share with that forum. Time I would have been here and working on the Jetmoto 250.


I just finished the repair a couple of days ago. I will get those pics into my page after dinner.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

I think your priorities are out of whack, I gave up Home Theater and Home Theater Forums for this quad stuff! It will be nice to put you back into the game!

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Jetmoto ATV 250 Sport Blue
Jetmoto ATV 250 Sport Red
Jetmoto ATV 150 Sport Blue
Jetmoto ATV 150 Sport Red
Honda CM450c
78 Honda CB750
79 Honda XL500

My priorities are straight! My CNC Mill is going to be making Aluminum Chinese Quad parts.


But a home theater forum?


What were you thinking?? LOL

I will go load those pics now.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

Pic 13 on my page.

I couldnt find the repair pic or my camera. Im guessing both are at my shop. Ill try and get it posted tomorrow.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

Here is what I would like to see changed.

1) A larger rear sprocket, about a 50 tooth one. This would allow for better gear ratios without going to a 12 tooth front sprocket.
2) Swap out the stock 428 chain for a 520 chain.
3) slightly stiffer springs with slightly more damping on compression and rebound.
4) Replace the chain tensioner with a chain guide.
5) Much better rubber for gas line, vent hoses, etc....
6) A upgrade of the ball joints and tie rod ends.
7) Seals on the swingarm, a-arms, and the linkage pivots.
8) I'll keep thinking......

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

ok, this would make jetmoto the best quad ever if they put a hydrolick cluch on them so u can run it with one finger..... like they run on trials bikes....lol

That would be cool, I have a hydraulic clutch on my KTM and my CR500.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

larger turning radious....... i saw this post on google