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Topic Title: 2008 Arctic Cat Thundercat with 188lbs torque!!!
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Created On: 06/09/2007 08:30 AM
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 06/09/2007 08:30 AM
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UPDATE - It will be called the Thundercat - and has 188lbs of torque!!! Dry weight of 712lbs. It is a 95occ engine...

Arctic Cat website has the lineup listed



Okay, I don't know what you all are hearing, but the latest news is that AC will make a 700 H1 AND 950 V2's! Both with EFI, and some kind of power steering.

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Edited: 06/13/2007 at 04:12 PM by Catterman
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Cattleman,
With reference to EFI on the H1, Are you familiar with dial-a-jet. From what I can gather it helps carbs get some of the bennefits of EFI. Quicky adjust for altitude changes, better gas distribution and a bunch of other stuff etc. I don't have one but have done some reading about it and I may post a request for feedback from guys that do have one. It may not be EFI but could possibly be the next best thing if you have a carb - of which I prefer because I can work on a carb and I don't have the skills to work on EFI.

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Yeh, if you do a lot of changes in altitude dial a jet is pretty sweet.

My service manager told me a couple weeks ago that "they are building something bigger than 800", but he didn't know what they are putting it in. I'm betting IF it's a 950, that it goes in the Prowler. I'm pretty pumped for a new V2, I REALLY dig the powerband of the two cylinder.

Also- if you want an EFI H1, why not go with the 700?

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 06/09/2007 11:55 AM
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I know everything I've been hearing is looking down the barrel of a 950. My question is.. is it necessary?

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 06/09/2007 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Legendary

I know everything I've been hearing is looking down the barrel of a 950. My question is.. is it necessary?


Oh no, here we go again. This will really stir things up. There are a thousand different opinions on this and there have been some heated discussions.
I suppose in the right machine it is something that can be utilized. But my opinion to put something that big in a UTILITY Quad with a 50 inch wheel base is a tad overkill. I will say it again so that no one goes sideways on this - it is my OPINION.

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 06/09/2007 07:20 PM
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I would love to see a 750V2.

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Originally posted by: v2rider

I would love to see a 750V2.


aye.

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 06/10/2007 12:01 AM
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Dial a jet's can work good, but again it takes some knowledge to get them all set in, and even so it isn't an altitude ajustment device, so you still have to switch jets if you go through extreams. I like EFI cause it starts right up, runs smoother, and is less work. I do realize that some people like the carbs as they can tinker them towards their liking though.

I'm with Chum and v2, a 750 would be about perfect

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 06/10/2007 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by: buckaroo50

Originally posted by: Legendary



I know everything I've been hearing is looking down the barrel of a 950. My question is.. is it necessary? [IMG][/IMG]




Oh no, here we go again. This will really stir things up. There are a thousand different opinions on this and there have been some heated discussions.

I suppose in the right machine it is something that can be utilized. But my opinion to put something that big in a UTILITY Quad with a 50 inch wheel base is a tad overkill. I will say it again so that no one goes sideways on this - it is my OPINION.



I'm not pulling your chain but there is always more than one reason for more horsepower. I had a 400AC and sold it because it didn't have enough power. I've since switched to a Rhino and use it daily around the 23 acres we live on. I would welcome a 950 V twin Prowler to use around here just because it would have more pulling power. Everyone equates bigger engines with going faster. It also means more torque.

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 06/10/2007 09:19 AM
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That would be impressive to take your machine out, and straight up uproot a tree from the ground in front of your buddies with their 400s

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i thought that anything over 800cc was no longer considered an ATV and couldnt be driven on ATV trails. i believe thats what the book says at least. should find out within the week what theyre bringing out.

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That is true in Minnesota, im not sure in other states

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V2, did you order your 950 yet???

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 06/12/2007 12:15 PM
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talked to my local AC dealer, waiting for them all to come in. i just wanna test drive the 950 to see top speed, i think ill get 700 H1 EFI since thats legal to ride. 950 H2 EFI would be really nice, maybe i could swap plastic . wish they wouldnt have taken them all off the site. incase noone saw the website or my post the new ATVs are as follows (and it is official):

Thundercat 950 H2 EFI SE - arctic cats own 950 cc v-twin w/ efi comes only in silver
700 EFI H1 - arctic cats own engine in a 700 efi form
700 prowler xtx h1 w/ EFI
366 or 363 cant re cc atv also arctic cats own engine

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those of you from MN, heres what the DNR said when i asked about the 950.

me to her:
Hello,

Arctic Cat has just introduced their 2008 line-up which includes a 950cc ATV. I see that the law prohibits them from riding in the ditch, will this change with the introduction of this new atv or remain the same? Also can you use a 950cc ATV on trails that are marked for ATVs? Thanks.

her reply:

No, they would be classified as an ORV (Off Road Vehicle), not an ATV. They could only be operated where ORVs are allowed.

Here is the website for the regulations: http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/regulations/ohv/index.html and here is where to find any trail information: www.findthetrails.com .

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according to the DNR regulations its not an ORV but a Class 2 ATV, which still cant be operated in the ditches. not sure about trails.

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i also did the liberty of calling AC. left the lady a message saying i saw the ATVs yesterday and now theyre gone. hope they get the site back up soon so we can look at them.

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The 950 Cat will be considered a Class 2 ATV and will be allowed to travel down the extreme right hand side of County and State highways per the regulations.

MN is already working on designating existing trails for Class 2 ATV's. Some of those that come to mind that might allow this Cat will be any of the rail lines, Red Top and Nemadji since many of these trails in or near these network have a fairly solid base.

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V2, did you order your 950 yet???




If it would have been an 800, i would have traded up. But not for something i cant ride where i usually ride

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Edited: 06/12/2007 at 08:05 PM by v2rider
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I would expect states like MN with an 800cc restriction in the language of the statute would be making some sort of administrative change unless the bureaucracy is really petty, vindictive, narrow minded, obtuse, pedantic, well...you get the point....they're government bureaucrats.

It's obviously an ATV and the silly, meddling state regulations haven't kept up with the evolution of the technology. If the the bureaucrats in charge of enforcing idiocy would just use their brains they would just ignore the convoluted legalistic scribblings describing what color the sky is or what an ATV. It's obviously an ATV. Carry on.

This legalistic crap is their bread and butter.

Edited: 06/13/2007 at 01:23 AM by CaptainQuint
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It will be interesting to see what AC has used for a transmission, differentials, axles, and CV joints, on the 950. If a 650-700 class can bust these with ease I can just imagine what a 950 would do. They are gonna have to be a lot bigger and stronger to tame the 950 that is for sure.

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