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Topic Title: 08 AC H1 650 vs. 08 Sportsman 800
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 04/22/2008 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by: v2rider

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I like the plastic racks over the metal ones for a couple of reasons. One the plastic ones dont hert you hind quarters if you ride the occasional doubble. Two we all crash our quads don't think it matters if the rack shatters or bends you are goint to replace it and the plastic ones are cheeper than the metal ones.










One more thing the Polaris has twice the storage and accessories of any other quad which is a plus!




Speak for yourself. I have yet to crash a quad. And the racks on the AC are RARE to break in a wreck. They are steel racks, almost unbreakable.


Not one to take sides but enough is enough. I dont need to speek for myself my machine does all the talking I need! I guess I just ride a little harder than you, its just that sometimes those trees like to jump out in front of you. HAHA
And as far as the trailer hitch thing goes yes it woud be nice to have a two inch reciver but dosent really matter as the max towing on the AC is 1050 lbs all Sportsmans will tow 1500 with a smaller hitch that does not takeup ground clearance.

I guess the # of bikes sold speaks for itself dosen't it!

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Edited: 04/22/2008 at 05:44 PM by DODGE57HEMI
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Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI

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I like the plastic racks over the metal ones for a couple of reasons. One the plastic ones dont hert you hind quarters if you ride the occasional doubble. Two we all crash our quads don't think it matters if the rack shatters or bends you are goint to replace it and the plastic ones are cheeper than the metal ones.





















One more thing the Polaris has twice the storage and accessories of any other quad which is a plus!








Speak for yourself. I have yet to crash a quad. And the racks on the AC are RARE to break in a wreck. They are steel racks, almost unbreakable.




Not one to take sides but enough is enough. I dont need to speek for myself my machine does all the talking I need! I guess I just ride a little harder than you, its just that sometimes those trees like to jump out in front of you. HAHA

And as far as the trailer hitch thing goes yes it woud be nice to have a two inch reciver but dosent really matter as the max towing on the AC is 1050 lbs all Sportsmans will tow 1500 with a smaller hitch that does not takeup ground clearance.



I guess the # of bikes sold speaks for itself dosen't it!


LOL!!! All bigbore quads will pull the same weight. Dont get all excited over the "rated" tow capacity, thats all safe stopping distance crap. I pulled my 1/2 ton pickup up my driveway with my cat. And the # of bikes does speak. AC has broke EVERY previous of its own records in sales for the last 5 years running year after year.

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 04/22/2008 07:03 PM
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So what you are telling me that AC brakes are worthless then? And they can only brake ther own records not industry records?

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 04/22/2008 07:15 PM
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ok people AC kills polosers all day in quality features and comfort

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 04/22/2008 07:17 PM
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Funny comming from someone who rides a Suzuki!

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PLEASE DON'T BE THE ONE THAT RUIN'S IT FOR THE REST OF US!!!!!!!!

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 04/22/2008 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI

So what you are telling me that AC brakes are worthless then? And they can only brake ther own records not industry records?


The only industry records popo breaks is the number of repairs it has.

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Boy and I thought the last post was childish. Good one!!!!!

For some one who hates popo so much I realy like the picture of the 700 Sportsman in your photos!!!

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Edited: 04/22/2008 at 07:25 PM by DODGE57HEMI
 04/22/2008 07:55 PM
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That WAS my buddies, which is broke down. How ironic. And this whole thread is childish. If you go back to the beginning and see that it started as fact based opinions as my first response, which was retaliated on by the first "polaris riders" childish response.

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 04/23/2008 10:30 AM
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I can say good things about both brands; my AC has been great - no issues at all and tons of people use it; from my 73 year old father to my teen age nephews. We also had a Polaris in Iraq that was abused by tons of people in 130 degree heat with little or no maint and it still ran strong when I left; a photo of it is on my photo page.

And I'll add that the best thing about both brands is they are built in the US providing jobs here in our country.

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 04/23/2008 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by: v2rider

Ok. They have more problems than 3 atv brands put together. That AWD is crap. And polaris puts a 1 1/4 inch reciever on the machine because it cant handle anything that needs a 2" reciever. Also, I don't recall steel skids being better than ACs skids, which come Standard on ALL AC quads, as they bend when hit, and dont bend back. Who the hell keeps the stock tires on a quad for more than a year? Lots of storage on the cheap plastic racks that shatter on impact. Cool.


You're saying that an AC has the ability to out pull a polaris 800? Careful, your credibility is getting VERY thin lately.

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Originally posted by: Brent13

The Grizz dry weighs 600 pounds if I remember correctly. I don't recall SP weights, but believe even the 500 SP weighs considerably more than the 700 Grizzly. The 800 SP is a real porker. The SP flat out starts heavier by a long shot, so what is your point? What do you mean loaded up? If you start heavier, you can't win.



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I just have to laugh at people who think there is a light weight 600lb Utility ATV, once your at those weights you just do not feel 100 more lbs.

It like having a 100 lbs passenger on the back,who can even tell if the person ever fell off unless you look back.


I ride with a 500 Foreman thats 100lbs lighter, its suspension can not handle high speed bumps as well and the it accelerates slower. Its 100lbs lighter does not help in the least.

I like the new 08 Ford F-150 is better because it weights less than the Dodge Ram.

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Edited: 04/23/2008 at 11:05 AM by TLC
 04/23/2008 11:06 AM
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Not really sure but are you on your dad's account V2? I always noticed that you are as close minded as that Recon idiot but you've been acting like a little baby lately that's doesn't (or can't) own up to the facts. Loosen up, the AC's have nice features but, it doesn't mean that EVERY other brand doesn't have models that will perform BETTER at different tasks than your AC. Now log off your dad's account and get your own, you're making your dad look bad.

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 04/23/2008 11:28 AM
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What's really funny though is I just looked at the first page of AC's and Polaris's section on this website and there are 9 threads about problems people are having with their AC's and 1 about Polaris. lol. Just sayin'.

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 04/23/2008 11:29 AM
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To TLC

I can flatout notice a 100 pound difference on a quad, and 150 pounds is huge. Load you quad up heavy with gear and ride. Then ride it unloaded. There is a difference. You "ride" a quad, shifting your body weight forward, back, side to side. You "drive" a truck and body english really has no need. The weight of a quad does matter and can certainly be felt in the handling of the machine. I am done.....

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Throw a 600 lb ATV around with body english? Throw a 600lb rock and throw a 700lb rock see which is easier and goes farther. 100lb of gear is just my beer. I load up 300lbs and sure can feel that but 100 pounds hardly.

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i laugh at some of the statements made. like metal skids are better then plastic for instance. lol plastic slides cause it is naturally more slippery, every little bit helps. also i like the statement that i can stand on my plastic rack and it won't break. lmao i was slapping my knee at that statement. to be honest if you get in the mud and push bumper to bumper i have broken a couple of polaris racks and actually felt bad when i did break someone elses machine. also the stock tires statement. omg who even keeps the stock tires? the 2 inch receiver hitch compared to the 1 1/2 is just silly. i will admit i like pulling my receiver out of my truck and plugging it into my atv. then the old belt statement ah yes we can't talk about any automatic without getting into that one. i know guys who had polaris's that have gotten 5000 miles and never touched the belt and i seriously knew one guy who had an 03 700 that it would actually shread it every 200 to 300 miles. i used to own polaris and i live just 8 miles from their manufacturor in roseau and i will be the first to tell you i will never own another one ever again. they are a very high maintanance machine that has alot of cheap china made components on them to keep the cost of production down. and well dare i say tom tiller single handedly made polaris what it is today. lately the new thing is i noticed alot of them are having transmission troubles. one guy just got a new ranger about a month ago and the tranny is going out on it already. as far as ride is concerned though i will give it to polaris for slow trail riding as it is more plush and i will give it to cat for hammering the mud holes hard as it is a stiffer design. the polaris awd system works great for most people but as anyone who lives around hills. and why even bring up ride with 2 people? you can't legally drive an atv with 2 people on unless you have a 2-up. for some reason polaris people seem to be extremely brand loyal and i believe it is because people that own every other brand make fun of them for driving a higher maintanance machine and i guess i would snap back quick too but sometimes you just gotta look around you and make an educated decision. also beings i live so close to the factory i do ride with mostly polaris's cause them or a relative work there and get discount.

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Originally posted by: zorro700

Not really sure but are you on your dad's account V2? I always noticed that you are as close minded as that Recon idiot but you've been acting like a little baby lately that's doesn't (or can't) own up to the facts. Loosen up, the AC's have nice features but, it doesn't mean that EVERY other brand doesn't have models that will perform BETTER at different tasks than your AC. Now log off your dad's account and get your own, you're making your dad look bad.


Im crushed. Zorro. I have better things to worry about than you thinking your remarks are "funny". You basically amount to a stain on my pants at this point. I can care less to what you think. You have less credibility than about anyone on here. Even MotoF150 had more of my respect than you.

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Originally posted by: zorro700

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Ok. They have more problems than 3 atv brands put together. That AWD is crap. And polaris puts a 1 1/4 inch reciever on the machine because it cant handle anything that needs a 2" reciever. Also, I don't recall steel skids being better than ACs skids, which come Standard on ALL AC quads, as they bend when hit, and dont bend back. Who the hell keeps the stock tires on a quad for more than a year? Lots of storage on the cheap plastic racks that shatter on impact. Cool.




You're saying that an AC has the ability to out pull a polaris 800? Careful, your credibility is getting VERY thin lately.


Have you hooked a 800 up to a Thundercat yet? Or how about the diesel Cat? Or even the H1? They are all about the same weight. Id say if you put your money where your mouth is, youd be broke.

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 04/24/2008 06:56 AM
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youd? Is that a word? You(')d also cure that stain in the pants problem if you(')d quit looking at picks of AC's. LOL! BTW Weez I weigh 220# and I stand on my racks all the time. The shed I park my bike in has an overhead storage and I use my bike to access it. No big deal but, have you ever seen anybody stand on their polaris racks and watch them snap? Thought so. Oh, and now you're saying that plastic skids are just as strong but the racks are too weak. Have you ever met V2? I think you two would really "hit" it off. Hey look on the bright side.....the first page of threads on the AC forum is down to 8 threads of people having problems. lol.

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92' yz 250
93' cr 250
94' zx 7r ninja
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99' yzf 400
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00' yzf 426

Edited: 04/24/2008 at 07:14 AM by zorro700
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Originally posted by: zorro700

youd? Is that a word? You(')d also cure that stain in the pants problem if you(')d quit looking at picks of AC's. LOL! BTW Weez I weigh 220# and I stand on my racks all the time. The shed I park my bike in has an overhead storage and I use my bike to access it. No big deal but, have you ever seen anybody stand on their polaris racks and watch them snap? Thought so. Oh, and now you're saying that plastic skids are just as strong but the racks are too weak. Have you ever met V2? I think you two would really "hit" it off. Hey look on the bright side.....the first page of threads on the AC forum is down to 8 threads of people having problems. lol.


Oh, now we need to pull out the bad spelling card. Well, when you sit down and pee Zorro, maybe you can take a look at the list of problems on the Polaris forum.

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Odyssey PC680 Battery