I am going to buy a new 4 wheeler probably by this weekend and was leaning towards an H1 650. I was just curious what people thought about these 2 ATV's and which you feel is a better ATV. Anything will help, thanks.

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2005 Honda TRX400EX<BR>Stock
2008 AC H1 650

go with the h1 polaris suck if you got the polaris you would probably end up sittin on the trail with a broken belt

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Buck
06 eiger camo
2500 warn winch
26 in mud lite xtrs on type 7 black
soon quadworks power kit

Good post. I like you"re gramer, you mustus be reely smert. LOL!

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700 sportsman efi, 2500 lb warn winch, american eagle plow.

Previous machines:
89' mohave
89' banshee modified
92' yz 250
93' cr 250
94' zx 7r ninja
96' yz 250
99' yzf 400
99 seadoo xp limited
00' yzf 426

both machines are good. the biggest thing is that a person has to try each machine out and go with what you like best. As far as breaking a belt on a polaris , i don't think that happens very much. i had a sportsman for 8 yrs and never broke it, i'm sure they have to be replaced at some point, but thats not a weak point on a polaris. just go with what u like best after riding and looking at them

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Nick Cunningham

Last time I checked AC H1 was belt drive also!!!!

Just remeber a belt is cheap and the CVT clutches are easy to modify for better performance and bigger tires!!!! Can't change much on a beltless auto!

Polaris, AC and Can Am all use cvt belt transmissions on there snowmobiles. By the way Polaris also makes great snowmobiles, atvs and Victory moytorcycles.

I can't think of one thing the AC can do better than the Polaris!

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YZ's/XT's/KLR
Raptor
Scrambler
Sportsman 500X2

Here we go again the myth of broken belts . Do they break yes but usualy on the machines that people don't know when to use low gear. I'v had mine four years the belt still looks brand new and has never been changed. Ride each machine and you will know wich one you want!

Rick not sure if you ment better between these two machines or AC in general, I dont think it matters but the AC does win in one catagory w/ the Thundercat and it is the new king of HP!

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08 YAMAHA RAPTOR 700R
04 POLARIS SPORTSMAN 600
04 DODGE RAM 1500 HEMI QCSB "THE H"

PLEASE DON'T BE THE ONE THAT RUIN'S IT FOR THE REST OF US!!!!!!!!

MOPAR FOREVER
Move-Over-People-Are-Raceing!!!!!

Edited: 04/17/2008 at 01:56 PM by DODGE57HEMI

Both are decent machines. I chose the Poo over the AC due to the ride and shift pattern as I work mine alot and did not like the serpintine shift pattern. Both have good ground clearance, good power. Both are heavier which some don't like but I prefer the weight as it smooth the ride and gives better traction.

** AMEN to the belt issue it has really overdone.

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05 SP800
94 1100 Yamaha Virago
01 Yamaha dlx700
If it ain't fast enuff to scare you.. it ain't fast enuff.
Cattail ATV Club

Edited: 04/17/2008 at 12:45 PM by upnort

AC. More ground clearance, a 2" reciever, TRUE 4x4 differential locker, speedrack system. I don't have anything against Polaris, I just think AC has a better package.

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery


Edited: 04/19/2008 at 09:25 AM by v2rider

Polaris uses steel skids not plastic.
high mounted winch to help keep out of mud
Polaris PXT tires best on stock atv
lots of storage
soft ride
better handling
etc.....

Nothing against AC but Polaris is better overall.

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YZ's/XT's/KLR
Raptor
Scrambler
Sportsman 500X2

Ok. They have more problems than 3 atv brands put together. That AWD is crap. And polaris puts a 1 1/4 inch reciever on the machine because it cant handle anything that needs a 2" reciever. Also, I don't recall steel skids being better than ACs skids, which come Standard on ALL AC quads, as they bend when hit, and dont bend back. Who the hell keeps the stock tires on a quad for more than a year? Lots of storage on the cheap plastic racks that shatter on impact. Cool.

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

Love the racks on the AC machines. I bought Grizzly, but the additional rack space on the AC's would be very nice. I must agree, the Polaris Sportsman has the worst rack system out there. Plastic racks are just a bad idea. Their rack system is pure junk. Overall a good quad, but bad racks, the 4x4 system is a joke, no diff lock, and too heavy. The AC suffers from being to heavy also in my opinion. Between the two, I'd pick the AC every time, however.

Brent

I like the plastic racks over the metal ones for a couple of reasons. One the plastic ones dont hert you hind quarters if you ride the occasional doubble. Two we all crash our quads don't think it matters if the rack shatters or bends you are goint to replace it and the plastic ones are cheeper than the metal ones.


One more thing the Polaris has twice the storage and accessories of any other quad which is a plus!

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08 YAMAHA RAPTOR 700R
04 POLARIS SPORTSMAN 600
04 DODGE RAM 1500 HEMI QCSB "THE H"

PLEASE DON'T BE THE ONE THAT RUIN'S IT FOR THE REST OF US!!!!!!!!

MOPAR FOREVER
Move-Over-People-Are-Raceing!!!!!

Edited: 04/21/2008 at 06:14 PM by DODGE57HEMI

The plastic racks are very tuff! You can stand on them. At least they won't rust up in a year or two like the metal racks do.
I'm just curious what a Grizz 700 loaded up like a Polaris would weigh?? Bet it would be close.

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YZ's/XT's/KLR
Raptor
Scrambler
Sportsman 500X2

The Grizz dry weighs 600 pounds if I remember correctly. I don't recall SP weights, but believe even the 500 SP weighs considerably more than the 700 Grizzly. The 800 SP is a real porker. The SP flat out starts heavier by a long shot, so what is your point? What do you mean loaded up? If you start heavier, you can't win.

Brent

Speak for yourself. I have yet to crash a quad. And the racks on the AC are RARE to break in a wreck. They are steel racks, almost unbreakable.

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

Depends on what you want to win!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDK49i2hPc

I couldn't find the vid of the Polaris 500 draggin the Griz. but this shows the lighter weight CanAm 500 ddraggin the Griz. this shows which will tow haul and plow best!

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YZ's/XT's/KLR
Raptor
Scrambler
Sportsman 500X2

Edited: 04/22/2008 at 07:23 AM by RickCJ7

V2rider, it's too bad you're so bias. You don't seem like a stupid person normally but, to say the AWD system on the polaris is crap shows some real stupidity. The polaris also has speed lock system on their racks plus all the storage. I'm sure if it was the other way around you would say AC is better because of the rack system and YES your racks are steel and ANY scratch that they get WILL rust......no thanks. Hey, I got an idea..........why doesn't somebody ask what this guy is going to want this quad for? They're both an excellent combination work and play quads. If you're looking for the absolute best ride then no doubt it's the polaris. If you ever plan on riding double then no question it's the polaris with the nice flat back rack that blends perfectly into the seat. I know a lot of people on here like the AC's that they own but, so do the people that own po po's. Looking at both quads the polaris just has more and better features.

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700 sportsman efi, 2500 lb warn winch, american eagle plow.

Previous machines:
89' mohave
89' banshee modified
92' yz 250
93' cr 250
94' zx 7r ninja
96' yz 250
99' yzf 400
99 seadoo xp limited
00' yzf 426

Edited: 04/22/2008 at 09:48 AM by zorro700

Was that not just a bias statement you made in the end? That is your opinion, not a fact. All of the comments of anything being better are opinions. The only facts are what I listed. 2" reciever, Ground clearance, differential locker, skid plates come on all AC ATVs standard, and speed rack. I think AC has the better features is my opinion.

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

Come on Rick! All that video proves is who hooks up first, nothing else. Who has the best tires for that surface usually wins. I have a diesel truck and watch other diesel owner idiots drag eachother around. Whoever gets the traction first wins every time. That is a fun video to watch, but doesn't prove a thing. If the Grizzly had pulled the Can-Am the other direction I would not have used it to belittle the Can-Am. It just doesn't prove much at all. You can do better than that.

I am saying you can't win against the Grizzly in a weight comparison equally loaded. The Polaris is already heavier when they both are in stock trim. If you think a heavier quad is an advantage, than that is your opinion and so be it. I am saying a lighter quad is an advantage while riding and working. As far as power to weight ratio goes, it is a no brainer.

Brent

I did some quick research. That SP 500 comes in at 731 pounds dry. The Grizzly 700 is 600 pounds dry. That polaris is a pig! My wife weighs in at 135. That is a pretty incredible weight difference and a whole lot of weight to muscle around on the trail. They have always been known to be very heavy ATV's. More power and a whole lot less weight gives the Grizzly an edge, in my opinion.

Now let me bash the Grizzly so I don't come off biased. The lack of a handlebar mounted light and instrument pod blows. The durable bedliner like material on the racks is not even close to durable. The racks are of quality steel, but too smal in my opinion. The stock tires are not great, but decent. Those are my only gripes about my Grizzly.

Not one to take sides but enough is enough. I dont need to speek for myself my machine does all the talking I need! I guess I just ride a little harder than you, its just that sometimes those trees like to jump out in front of you. HAHA
And as far as the trailer hitch thing goes yes it woud be nice to have a two inch reciver but dosent really matter as the max towing on the AC is 1050 lbs all Sportsmans will tow 1500 with a smaller hitch that does not takeup ground clearance.

I guess the # of bikes sold speaks for itself dosen't it!

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08 YAMAHA RAPTOR 700R
04 POLARIS SPORTSMAN 600
04 DODGE RAM 1500 HEMI QCSB "THE H"

PLEASE DON'T BE THE ONE THAT RUIN'S IT FOR THE REST OF US!!!!!!!!

MOPAR FOREVER
Move-Over-People-Are-Raceing!!!!!

Edited: 04/22/2008 at 05:44 PM by DODGE57HEMI