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 09/24/2007 01:27 PM
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Diesel ATV hmm...Think I would like one
but I would like to see it in action

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I've read reviews about it. It's obviously a work horse, not something that's gonna be tearing up the trails with blinding speed and scary acceleration. It is more of a tractor in ATV clothing. If you need it to do a lot of work, and have other machines around that run on Diesel, then it makes sense. One of the reviewers wrote that he was disappointed with the machine because it was sluggish, did not handle well, and weighed to much. To this I say "No sh!t, it's a Diesel." Just make sure that the machine matches your needs.

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 09/24/2007 05:55 PM
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Well I got a diesel truck and its not a hot rod. but man that thing pull my stuff no problems. the reason i consider a diesel atv is the simplicity that diesels brings no spark plug to foul, no ignition to replace, and that wonderful sound that they make that sets them apart from gas quads. and I dont realy go fast when I'm on my quad no just cruise and enjoy the trails. also what Id like to know is how well would this atv do on hills. and no I wouldnt trade my sportsman for it. I dont think I'm ever going to part with my sportsman. I wish Polaris made a diesel atv

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 09/24/2007 07:37 PM
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I'm not bad-mouthing it by any means. I'd love to have one. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it isn't a turbo-diesel. Now, if A.C. would run 30-psi into that thing, I bet it would really move!

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my friend ownes a cat dealership, and i asked about the diesel. i was told it was in fact slow, but was really strong. and it was a pretty decent ride (comfort). but they advised wait a year to see what bugs need to be worked out.

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you know gt350tsc, polaris did have a deisel. it was a 455cc and it was out for i believe 2 yrs. i may mistaken on the yrs but 1997-98 sounds right. loud, smoked,and lots of vibration. 10 yrs later and cat decides to give it a shot. i dont think its gonna make it, but you never know.

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 09/25/2007 10:31 PM
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The diesel sound and smoke is what I like about diesels. they just have such great low end power .

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when I get a chance I'm heading out to check one out and see what it true colors are

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I know a guy who has one. Speed wise it is the equivelant of a 400cc quad. It is louder of course, but pulls like no tomorrow. Main advantage is for farmers who have diesel fuel all around and don't want to mess with gas.

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I was riding in Harlan County Ky last weekend and met up with a group and one was riding a new AC diesel. He said it was awesome in the torque catagory but wouldn't win any speed contests. Top speed was about 43 mph. He was gonna try the Widowmaker hill on it later in the day, don't know if he made it. A Prarie didn't make it the night before and the guy took it home in a box. I did notice it will run on about 5 different types of fuel, on and off road diesel, biodiesel, JP 5, kerosene, and probably even used engine oil?? (military specs) He said there was a aftermarket turbo you could add, and it was really supposed to wake up the thing.

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speed is never really an issue because I never go over 30mph the trails I ride dont have a alot of long straights.
but then again a new atv is too expensive so Im sticking with sportsman 500.

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 11/28/2007 07:57 PM
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Today's gas ATV's will already pull a much bigger load than they can control. I don't see the need for more pulling power unless it's got more control and stopping power.

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 12/04/2007 09:14 AM
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I really like diesel power, if they strapped a turbo on it they could make alot more power, less smoke and add some fun factor.

I have an intercooled trubo diesel Jeep Liberty and it is hands down better then the gasser equivilant. Its about as fast with better acceleration, much more towing power, cooler sound and much better fuel economy. The same could be true for this ATV if they build it right, and like previoulsy mentioned, farms and other people that use diesel have lots on hand already.
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Though it doesn't have a carb and spark plug, if you ever had an injection pump problem or a bad injector I would guess it could get expensive.

I like the concept of a diesel quad. If it has the typical 30-50% fuel efficency advantage, it could have a very long range without having to have an unreasonably huge and heavy tank.

Mainly, as people have posted, I think it will be popular with farmers who aready have red dye diesel around for tractors.

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 12/04/2007 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by: action450s

I really like diesel power, if they strapped a turbo on it they could make alot more power, less smoke and add some fun factor.



I have an intercooled trubo diesel Jeep Liberty and it is hands down better then the gasser equivilant. Its about as fast with better acceleration, much more towing power, cooler sound and much better fuel economy. The same could be true for this ATV if they build it right, and like previoulsy mentioned, farms and other people that use diesel have lots on hand already.


That 2.8 CRD is a great motor. Too bad they put it in the Liberty instead of the Wrangler. But the inside scoop says a small Cummins is headed into the JK in a year or two.

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 12/10/2007 09:08 PM
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Thats what I hear as well, could find its way in the Liberty, Nytro, Dakota too, along with a larger diesel engine for the 1/2 ton pickups that is fuel effecient and powerfull but not the power monster that the Ram currently has.

I can honestly say that the deciding factor on buying my Liberty was simply the powertrain.
 12/12/2007 08:00 PM
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General Motors has bought the company that builds Jeep's Diesel engine, VM Motori. Its a division of Detroit Diesel. Which just makes the circle complete with Detroit Diesel, Penske and GM.

If you look up the Jeep UK sight all Jeeps have Diesels. Just Chrysler exports them all and doesn't leave any of them in North America. http://www.jeep.co.uk/jeep/index.aspx

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Just about everything that Jeep exports is better than what's available in the states. Jeep modified the new 4-door Wrangler for export (mostly military) so that it's available as a troop-transport, or a 2-door pick-up with a 2.8 Diesel and a Dana 60 rear-end. But we get stuck with garbage like the f#cking Jeep Compass and Patriot, and the 3.8 mini-van engine in the JK. Sucks.

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Main reason for the diesel is simplicity of fuel supply, so that a farmer or construction crew don't have to keep two types of fuel around. Diesel is a lot safer to store than gasoline, too - no explosive vapor.

USMC has dirt bikes that are diesel, for the same reason.
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If I was in the market for another work quad, I would definitely take a long hard look at the diesel.

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The diesel sound and smoke is what I like about diesels. they just have such great low end power .




Because the Gasoline ATVs have a low range I do not see the diesels advantage even for hard work or pulling.

A diesel would be like having a gas motored ATV stuck in low range forever.

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