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 08/28/2007 06:42 PM
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Ok i've only ridden older crappy quads me and my buddy are looking for new ones and unsure if we need a 4x4 or not. We are thinking some sporty 4x4 like a Wolverine or a Renegade 800 would be fun but if 2wd is fine we'd just go get some yfz450's or something. We won't be jumping like some of our crazy friends and won't be doing massive mudding not really into that either. So goofing on having fun around the farm and going through the mountains and maybe small streams with our buddies. So would a YFZ450 or KFX450 with some skid plates and decent tires be ok or should we look at like a Wolv with maybe a BBK or in my buddies case overkill and get the Ren 800 that I'm guessing should be able to go anywhere.
 08/28/2007 07:48 PM
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400ex is a great all around quad.

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If you are in two wheel drive and can't go any farther, right then is when you know you need four wheel drive.

I would first decide if you want sport, sport/utility, or utility. If you decide on utility I think the 4x4 is worth the extra cost. If you decide on sport/utility I would also go with 4x4, just because there really aren't any two wheel drive sport/utility ATVs. Sport quads can do surprisingly good. I have seen sport quads go places a 4x4 couldn't, like straight up vertical stream banks that are climbed with momentum, and not traction. And I have seen my 17 year old son go through a mud hole on his one wheel drive dirt bike that I had just gotten stuck in with a Grizzly 700 that had 27" tires and the front locker engaged. It helped that the bike didn't have to straddle the ruts I kept getting high centered on, he just picked a rut and went right through on his first try.

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that would for sure be up to the owner,i have both,,but the 4x4 has better holdback pulls like a mule,and just all around more secure ride,but i would like a in and out button installed on my honda 450 4x4,trustme go with the 4x4 for the real steap riding up,or down-hill,
 08/29/2007 07:46 AM
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That's kind of what I was thinking that's why I was deciding more on like the Wolverine something lite well for a 4x4 and if it did need more power the 500cc BBK. But my buddy thinks he needs a 800 for some reason but was considering a 450R because it's cheaper and wasn't sure how much he'd need 4x4.
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Well, you could always put a winch on the 2wd.

Or, you could always ride with someone that has a 4wd, to pull you out.

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What sort of ground clearance do you need? I've been on a 400ex, man what a hotrod, but it wouldn't make it 1/4 mile on my farm before it got stuck. The ground is just too rough for that sort of machine.
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Originally posted by: brusk

Ok i've only ridden older crappy quads me and my buddy are looking for new ones and unsure if we need a 4x4 or not. We are thinking some sporty 4x4 like a Wolverine or a Renegade 800 would be fun but if 2wd is fine we'd just go get some yfz450's or something. We won't be jumping like some of our crazy friends and won't be doing massive mudding not really into that either. So goofing on having fun around the farm and going through the mountains and maybe small streams with our buddies. So would a YFZ450 or KFX450 with some skid plates and decent tires be ok or should we look at like a Wolv with maybe a BBK or in my buddies case overkill and get the Ren 800 that I'm guessing should be able to go anywhere.


if you ain't got it ,you cain't use it,,,get the best of both worlds,,it sure is nice to push a button and get unstuck.. sport utility.........
 09/04/2007 04:47 AM
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Dont know where you live but if you plan on any snow riding a 4wd sure makes that nice.

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get a polaris 4x awd switch is good 4x is at finger my 800 will do 60 in 4x4 and almost 75 with it in 2 wd. ive pulled a s10 blazer with a trailer and another 700 for over a mile when buddy ran outta gas.granted its paved road but i wanna see another quad do same

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ok went with my buddy and watched a little of him in action with his KFX450R racing through the mountains I came to a few conclusions. With the exception of snow, deep mudd and a few others the 2wd goes everywhere the 4x4's did, also reverse is a must also I don't feel like rejetting carb if I move or go somewhere else for for simplicity it's gonna be EFI. That basically leaves the KFX450R and the Raptor 700R. My pick would be the 700 as with lower compression it stalls less and starts easier, little heavier but the extra torque I think these two are basically the same speed with the 700 trying less. My buddy seems to agree and is giving up his ideas for the Ren 800. And then I'll just buy a used Polaris 4x4 for my Girl and whenever i need it.
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how about the Polaris outlaw with irs rear end ,good ground clearance and sporty to .

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Originally posted by: deanz400

how about the Polaris outlaw with irs rear end ,good ground clearance and sporty to .


not 4-wheel drive.................
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Originally posted by: brusk

Ok i've only ridden older crappy quads me and my buddy are looking for new ones and unsure if we need a 4x4 or not. We are thinking some sporty 4x4 like a Wolverine or a Renegade 800 would be fun but if 2wd is fine we'd just go get some yfz450's or something. We won't be jumping like some of our crazy friends and won't be doing massive mudding not really into that either. So goofing on having fun around the farm and going through the mountains and maybe small streams with our buddies. So would a YFZ450 or KFX450 with some skid plates and decent tires be ok or should we look at like a Wolv with maybe a BBK or in my buddies case overkill and get the Ren 800 that I'm guessing should be able to go anywhere.


don't get anything with chain drive,all you do is work on those pieces of crab,i don't even know why they even make them, i guess to give somebody something to do,go figure...................
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Buy a 2wd drive. I ride in a club with mostly 4x4 and I can go anywhere they go. Yes I will go around the big mud holes but that is because i don't want to get dirty. Snow is way more fun on a 2wd. I run a set of Maxxis 4-snows on back in the winter and can usually go further then the 4x4 guys. I have about 4 inches of ground clearance and do fine over most stuff. You will have to ride a little hard when it comes to the deep mud/snow - I just mean you can't be scared to hit it with a little speed.

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 09/04/2007 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by: wayout

Originally posted by: brusk



Ok i've only ridden older crappy quads me and my buddy are looking for new ones and unsure if we need a 4x4 or not. We are thinking some sporty 4x4 like a Wolverine or a Renegade 800 would be fun but if 2wd is fine we'd just go get some yfz450's or something. We won't be jumping like some of our crazy friends and won't be doing massive mudding not really into that either. So goofing on having fun around the farm and going through the mountains and maybe small streams with our buddies. So would a YFZ450 or KFX450 with some skid plates and decent tires be ok or should we look at like a Wolv with maybe a BBK or in my buddies case overkill and get the Ren 800 that I'm guessing should be able to go anywhere.




don't get anything with chain drive,all you do is work on those pieces of crab,i don't even know why they even make them, i guess to give somebody something to do,go figure...................



I've never seen any of my friends have chain problems and they abuse the crap out of them. I don't really see the need for an IRS plus I looked at the Polaris and something about the body just didn't look nice I'm not sure what it was but didn't have any apeal. Granted the engine is nasty but once again I just wanna go the easy way and get fuel injection.
 09/04/2007 07:44 PM
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Get a 4x4. You will wish you had it more than not.

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Originally posted by: v2rider

Get a 4x4. You will wish you had it more than not.


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 09/05/2007 06:48 AM
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The wolvy is a great quad. I have never had a 4x4 until now. I have done some mods to make it a little better, and I am working on more mods for it right now. I dont regret having the 4x4 at the touch of a button because I cross creeks on it that are up to the handlebars, ride in really rough rocks so the 4x4 can help me crawl over them. And in the snow it is even better.

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I see alot of people go through some amazing stuff with 2wd, It,s a chain drive ATV that bothers me more,not only do they have very low ground clearance but a rear sprocket does not hold up to impacts as well a rear differential can on trails. We only ride with 3 chain driven ATVs ,a 91 Honda 200 Fourtraxs,300 Lakota and a 500 Scambler and all 3 have thrown or broke chains when trail riding.

Do they make sporty 2wd ATV with shalf drives? thats what I would look into.

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 09/05/2007 03:18 PM
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Even working around the yard I need 4X4 ...Sometimes the grass is wet and the quad is on a bit of a incline!!

Also had a trailer full of firewood and went to pull away in 2wd low gear but the back two tires were just spinning on the gravel..........Needed 4X4 there just to get the quad moving...........It sure comes in handy.........even if you think you will never need it!!!!...................Caper.........

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