ATV Connection Magazine Forum



       

Today's New Topics


ATV Connection
Decrease font size
Increase font size
Topic Title: AT tire help
Topic Summary:
Created On: 06/20/2007 08:43 PM
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch
1 2 Next Last unread
Topic Tools Search Topic
Topic Tools Topic Tools
View similar topics View similar topics
View topic in raw text format. Print this topic.
 06/20/2007 08:43 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My 350 bruin 4x4 needs some new shoes. i ride mainly trails with the occasionaly deep mud hole. looking at bearclaws, mudlites and swamp lites. I am adding itp wheels to get and additional 1" wider offset per wheel. Keeping it stock size 25". Also, weight is a factor for the little 350, the rear wheels weigh: stock ~ 18 lbs, bearclaws 23, mudlites 19.3 and swamplites 23 lbs. i have also read the swamp lites sit taller than the other 2 - this is a negative for me as i am trying to add stability. Suggestions? thanks for the input
 06/21/2007 08:42 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
SBuckJ
Pro Rider

Posts: 278
Joined: 04/13/2006

Camera Icon   
I had the Mudlites and didn't care for them. I now have the Swamplites and ride pretty much the same as you. They are easier steering and a more comfortable ride than the Mudlites and I haven't lost anything in the mud. Nice comfortable tire all-around. I don't have any experience with the bearclaws.
Try http://www.mudthrowers.com

Hope this helps.
Buck

-------------------------
2007 Suzuki King Quad 700 Camo
26" Interco Swamplites
Douglas Rattlesnake wheels
Uni air filter

2005 Yamaha Raptor 50 (son's)

 06/21/2007 06:33 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
thanks for the input...
 06/21/2007 06:46 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
buckaroo50
Arctic Cat Pro

Posts: 1235
Joined: 08/10/2005

Camera Icon   
Check out either MudCats, or MudGear, both are very good trail tires and work really good in the mud.... 25" MudCats also have 1" tread depth. I run both - MudGear on the front and MudCats on the rear

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/...ang/MudCat/MudCat.htm
http://www.nebraskatire.com/atv/gear/mud_gear.htm

Also a very good tire is Duro Buffalo

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/...V%20TIRES/duro_mud.htm

-------------------------
I DON'T PRACTICE AT BEING A DUMMY, IT COMES NATURAL
DON'T LAUGH AT ME, YOU CAN LEARN ALOT FROM A DUMMY!!!

03 Arctic Cat 400FIS automatic
Front tires - 25x8x12 Innova MudGear
Rear tires - 25x10x12 Sigma TBC MudCats
Front and Rear bumpers
1" spacers on all 4 wheels
3000# Xtreme waterproof winch
http://mysite.verizon.net/buckaroo39/
 06/22/2007 11:39 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
HeftyLefty
Pro Rider

Posts: 410
Joined: 04/15/2007

   
Don't overlook Goodyear Mud Runners. They even have a run flat version now.

-------------------------
My Avatar has more hair than I do.
 06/22/2007 06:00 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
v2rider
Pro Rider

Posts: 3653
Joined: 01/15/2006

Camera Icon   
I have 1000 miles on my swamplites, and they are my next choice of tire when i need them again. They have NEVER went flat, or not pulled me out of the crap. I vote for swamplites

-------------------------
2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery
 06/22/2007 09:45 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
were the swampltes taller than stock tires...assumming same size. i really like this tire and leaning towards buying them
 06/23/2007 05:07 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
CaptainQuint
Pro Rider

Posts: 1126
Joined: 10/08/2003

   
I wanted something cheap and fairly mild for my old project Polaris I use on the farm and I went with Dirt Devil ATs. I've been pretty happy with them so far. They're pretty good in the mud and pretty good on hardpack and everything else. They seem to be a good all around tire. Not bad in the snow either.

If you ride gravel roads a lot be aware they seem to grab a rock every now and then, hold it and then toss it. I think it gets caught in the tread somewhere. Not a big deal if you have good fender protection. I don't.
 06/23/2007 06:04 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
v2rider
Pro Rider

Posts: 3653
Joined: 01/15/2006

Camera Icon   
The Swamplites added about 3/4 inch more of ground clearance. That was also a plus for me.

-------------------------
2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery
 07/28/2007 04:45 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
vinson27
Trailblazer

Posts: 34
Joined: 03/24/2007

   
The 25" ITP Terracross may also fit your needs. They are fairly light weight, ride well and are 6-ply.

-------------------------
2006 Vinson
25" ITP Terracross
Rear Rack Extension
 07/28/2007 05:59 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
WoodRat
Range Rover

Posts: 157
Joined: 04/15/2007

Camera Icon   
Haven't tried them yet but I'm looking at Maxxis Bighorn for my next tires, radial with 6-ply rating. Customer testimonials say they'll last 10,000 miles or better. They have a wide foot print for stability and weight on a 25 " tire is 21.4 lbs.

-------------------------
2007 Honda TRX420FM
Superwinch ATV3000

My Rancher 420 Page

 07/28/2007 10:21 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
i ruled out the bighorns due to the weight...the weights I listed above are the rear weight (25x10x12).the bighorn rear tire for my size is 27 lbs.

ordering the tires next week, right now leaning on bear claws

Has anyone tried the new bear claw ex?
 07/28/2007 10:24 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
acpower
Pro Rider

Posts: 224
Joined: 07/20/2006

Camera Icon   
i have 27" ITP Mudlite XTRs on my AC 650 v2. i wouldnt recommend anything but them. my buddy has Swamplites on his Grizz and i can go through more and i think the ride is better imo. also ridden a lot of other AT tires and XTRs are still my favorite. a beefed up mudlite with sort of a 589 look. nice deep lugs plus theyre radial. check out my pics of them.

-------------------------
2006 Arctic Cat 650 V2
3000lb Venom 3000XT winch
50 ft synthetic winch rope
ITP Mudlite XTR tires
ITP C-Series Type 7 rims
Arctic Cat handguards
Arctic Cat shock covers
K&N Air Filter
 07/29/2007 08:54 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
ridnMT
Trailblazer

Posts: 27
Joined: 02/17/2007

Camera Icon   
I would also agree with acpower- ITP mudlite XTR, AWESOME.

-------------------------
06' 750i camo brute<BR>
warn winch,shovel
fender & rack bags
hand warmers
26 itp mud lites
EXTRA GAS
 07/29/2007 09:02 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
i lke the XTR's as well, my concern is the weight and my 350's ability to pull them. the XTR's would weigh 30 lbs more than mudlites and 17 lbs more than bear claws (this is total weight for all 4)
 07/29/2007 02:23 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
SBuckJ
Pro Rider

Posts: 278
Joined: 04/13/2006

Camera Icon   
I think you're right with the XTR's. Pretty heavy for a 350. No offense, but the two who recommend the XTR's are a 650 and 750. I'd stay lighter like the Mudlites or my favorite the Swamplite.
Buck

-------------------------
2007 Suzuki King Quad 700 Camo
26" Interco Swamplites
Douglas Rattlesnake wheels
Uni air filter

2005 Yamaha Raptor 50 (son's)
 07/29/2007 06:31 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
acpower
Pro Rider

Posts: 224
Joined: 07/20/2006

Camera Icon   
all of the below are 25"
Mudlite XTR front 22.7
Mudlite XTR rear 27.5
XTR total 100.4
1 1/8" lug

Swamplite front 19
Swamplite rear 23
Swamplite total 84
3/4" lug

Mudlite XT front 19.5
Mudlite XT rear 22.5
Mudlite XT total 84
1 1/8" lug

as you can see the Swamplite has the least deep lug, but still weight as much as the Mudlite XTs. So you might as well jump up the whole 16.4 lbs and get the XTRs, you get the radial ride, better traction than the Mudlites and the Swamplites and you get a radial ride. Theres no possible way that 16 lbs is going to effect the performance either so i see only 1 clear choice here and its the Mudlite XTRs. Not sure where SBuckJ gets his info or where hes from but 16 lbs is not that much more heavy. Need anymore advice or specs let me know. Good luck and buy the XTRs .

-------------------------
2006 Arctic Cat 650 V2
3000lb Venom 3000XT winch
50 ft synthetic winch rope
ITP Mudlite XTR tires
ITP C-Series Type 7 rims
Arctic Cat handguards
Arctic Cat shock covers
K&N Air Filter

 07/29/2007 07:20 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
SBuckJ
Pro Rider

Posts: 278
Joined: 04/13/2006

Camera Icon   
One thing ACpower doesn't understand is that with a smaller machine the extra ground clearance is a plus. Though there aren't any specs on "true" heighth the Swamplites measure true where the Mudlite XL's (not sure of the XTR's) measure way small. I had 25" Mudlite XL's that measured 23 inches tall when new (1 1/8 lug) where my Swamplites actually measure true (all tires with 4.5 lbs of air). That extra 1" of ground clearance had gotten me out of a few situations on my 450 Kodiak. So, ummmm. ACpower, that's where "I'm from". Not that it makes that much of a difference, my specs com from mudthrowers.com which shows the Swamplites as 5lbs lighter than you show. Also the hugh price difference may be a factor (anywhere between $160-$200)
Buck

-------------------------
2007 Suzuki King Quad 700 Camo
26" Interco Swamplites
Douglas Rattlesnake wheels
Uni air filter

2005 Yamaha Raptor 50 (son's)
 07/29/2007 08:07 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
acpower
Pro Rider

Posts: 224
Joined: 07/20/2006

Camera Icon   
last i heard Interco makes the SwampLite not mudthrowers.com and Interco's site just happened to list them at what i posted. My XTRs also measure true to their 27" with 5 lbs of air. So go ahead and email mudthrowers and tell them to check their specs with the maker before they lie on their site. Im trying to help the poster make the best choice and just cause youre a fanboy of the Swamplites you shouldnt post false statements. The XTR is a superior tire, i have ridden these 3 tires and many other tires and know how they ride and feel, and the XTR is truely better. So my specs are spot on. So the ground clearance would be the same but the ride would be better on the XTR, along with the mudding ability and handling. Anything else to add feel free buck.

-------------------------
2006 Arctic Cat 650 V2
3000lb Venom 3000XT winch
50 ft synthetic winch rope
ITP Mudlite XTR tires
ITP C-Series Type 7 rims
Arctic Cat handguards
Arctic Cat shock covers
K&N Air Filter
 07/29/2007 08:13 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
acpower
Pro Rider

Posts: 224
Joined: 07/20/2006

Camera Icon   
btw you said "Also the hugh price difference may be a factor (anywhere between $160-$200)" well at $25 more total for 4 tires your info doesnt add up again.

-------------------------
2006 Arctic Cat 650 V2
3000lb Venom 3000XT winch
50 ft synthetic winch rope
ITP Mudlite XTR tires
ITP C-Series Type 7 rims
Arctic Cat handguards
Arctic Cat shock covers
K&N Air Filter
 07/29/2007 08:35 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
kurt1011
Trailblazer

Posts: 85
Joined: 06/14/2007

   
Here is a chart that i am using to base the decision...maybe it wil save some else some time

l
25/8/12 25/10/12
weight total
front rear weight

15 19.3 MUDLIGHT 68.6
18.3 20 DIRT DEVIL II 76.6
18.2 22 MUD BUG RADIAL 80.4
17 24.8 ACT RADIAL 11" WIDE IN REAR 3 PLY 83.6
19 23 SWAMPLITE 84
19.5 22.5 MUDLIGHT XL 84
19 23 BEARCLAW 84
18 25 DUCKS U WETLAND 86
22.7 27.5 ITP XTR 100.4

i really don't want to buy the mudligt AT with 3/4 lugs...but for a 350 auto w/o a low gear - it may be the best bet.
if i did choose a radial, it would be the ACT - but 3 ply rating??

any other opinions?

FORUMS : Utility ATVs : AT tire help

1 2 Next Last unread
Topic Tools Topic Tools
Statistics
105621 users are registered to the ATV Connection forum.
There are currently 23 users logged in.
The most users ever online was 2031 on 03/16/2008 at 04:39 PM.
There are currently 527 guests browsing this forum, which makes a total of 550 users using this forum.

FuseTalk Standard Edition - © 1999-2008 FuseTalk Inc. All rights reserved.


Classified Ads |  ATV Forum  |  ATV Connection Magazine  |  Contact Us
 
Forum Archives