Thinking about buying one of the two, be nice to know to help make my decision easier, Thanks.

I would get the grizz, faster or not. I honestly dont know which is faster, but the grizz would be in my garage like yesterday over the KQ

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

The Grizz, hands down.

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2007 Yamaha Grizzly 660
26" Mudlites on ITP type 4 wheels
2500 Warn Winch
Warn Front Bumper
Yamaha Overfenders
Moose Stick Stoppers
Moose Rear Bumper
Maier Handguards
Kimpex Fender Protectors

Official Whitetail Deer Recovery Vehicle.

FITSofRAGE just got the Grizz, Blastfeem has the KQ. Both like what they have. As too which is faster, maybe they'll run 'em after the Grizz gets broken in.(10 hrs)

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If you mess with the King's Queen, you better cover your Ace, Jack.

'07 Brute Force 750
Lime Green
ITP SS 112's/25" Bighorns
All 4 PB32CR Elka's
Full Richochet skids
Kawasaki Brush Guard
Fender Pouches
GPS mounted to airbox
3.5 gal Fuel Pack

Ran my friends KQ against my 700 Grizz on a 400' flat grass run. With his stock 25" tires and my 26" Dirt Devils, he wins by about 1 quad length. When he switched to 27" 589s (I still had my 26" Dirt Devils on) I beat him by about 1 1/2 quad lengths.

The Grizzly has slightly better engine braking and the power steering takes the cake IMO (if you like to ride rough trails where it makes a big difference that is)...

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- 07: Grizzly 700
- 05: Recon ES
- 02: Grizzly 660

Hey Tank, Go with the Grizz. Proven reliability for years. That was my 1st choice but could not pass up the deal that I got on my 07 500 LE. Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

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Originally posted by: Outback31
Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

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Yeah, me and FITS love making fun of people that ask "What's the top speed on......" If, it is a sport quad, we say nothing. Most of the time it is a utility, we have ourselves a ball.

What is the top speed is of a big ute quad, going through a very tight trail, over logs, through mud holes, over bridges just wide enough for the quad, with 28" Mudzillas, in reverse? Why do so many people care about TOP speed? We see about 30-35 mph on a strait-away where we ride and about 15 around corners, any faster than that, you are a donkey. Our trails are non-directional, traffic flows both ways. I would give anything for one of these donkeys to come that fast around a corner and see the front of my MV coming at 'em.

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If you mess with the King's Queen, you better cover your Ace, Jack.

'07 Brute Force 750
Lime Green
ITP SS 112's/25" Bighorns
All 4 PB32CR Elka's
Full Richochet skids
Kawasaki Brush Guard
Fender Pouches
GPS mounted to airbox
3.5 gal Fuel Pack

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Originally posted by: Instigater

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Originally posted by: Outback31
Remember top speed isn't everything unless you are going to be riding on the salt flats.

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Yeah, me and FITS love making fun of people that ask "What's the top speed on......" If, it is a sport quad, we say nothing. Most of the time it is a utility, we have ourselves a ball.

What is the top speed is of a big ute quad, going through a very tight trail, over logs, through mud holes, over bridges just wide enough for the quad, with 28" Mudzillas, in reverse? Why do so many people care about TOP speed? We see about 30-35 mph on a strait-away where we ride and about 15 around corners, any faster than that, you are a donkey. Our trails are non-directional, traffic flows both ways. I would give anything for one of these donkeys to come that fast around a corner and see the front of my MV coming at 'em.

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I remember a guy on a dirt bike that turned a corner and saw the front of your MV ... lol Good thing he missed it!!!!!
top speed... I have had mine up to 57 on a paved road with more to go on stock tires.. wont do that again!!

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07 700 King Quad<BR>Suzuki Front and Rear Bumpers<BR>25IN BigHorns Mounted on SS108s<BR>3000LB Gorilla Winch<BR>Aluminum Skid Plates<BR>Maier hand Guards<BR>K&N Filter<BR>Dalton Clutch Kit<BR>Power Commander 3<BR>TRS Comp Yoshi<BR>(MotoF150)Don't be stupid. If that is just you being you, for all of our sakes, please be somebody else<BR><BR>"Who else wants some of DEBO"

well so far. i love my new grizz. there is only one complaint. the darn seat is sooo thick and feels high. i am going to try to get an upolstry place to cut it down some. my 03 grizz u set lower on it. but the seat is cummfy.. just feels tall. the power is good, from what ive felt so far. still breaking it in. the handling with stock tires is very very good. feels light and very responsive compared to my 03. the power steering gives u the, i just dont get tired riding it feel. it handles way better then my 03. wich i still love the 03, but its kinda like godzilla now. the ergonomics of the 07 grizz are great. and u can use diff lock. and really not know your in diff lock with the power steering. i tested this quite a bit while riding some tight places. u can actually use diff lock at any time. very good thing. the front breaks are now killer. u can use one finger to shut her down. and the rear breaks are also very stout. it blows my 03 away in the brake department. and with the new control arms. u can tell the difference going over obsticals. the improved ground clearance from them, makes a huge difference. where my 03 the lower a arms would hit towards the middle. these just go over them. another nice feature. and u can adjust the fuel management using the instrument panel. a feature off yamaha roadrace bikes.. another nice thing!!! so far it has passed my expectations. other then the seat.. now the king quad. both my friends. blast and bat cave boy have them. and i like them both. ive ridden them both. they feel light. nimble. and handle well. and have killer breaks. but i have owned yamaha all my life. with some others in there. so i stuck with the grizz because how my 03 treated me. i dont think u would go wrong with either. i would say get the grizz. just because of some of its ammenities. but u should go look at them both. and really take time to look at them. and maybe try to ride them both. and see what u think. its ur money. get what makes u happy. but ill stick with both my grizzos. i feel i have another long time friend with my new one. and the 03 is now the bogger. well if we can keep a certain name axle in it. and no more breaky :,)

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03 GRIZZLY
11:1 WEISCO
EPI CLUTCH KIT
HOT CAMS MUD BUSTER
DYNO JET
K&N
FMF
GORILLA AXLES
28" MUDZILLAS, SNORKELED,
MODED FRAME IN WEAK SPOTS, NO FLEX.
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05 YFZ 450
DYNO JET
K&N
JARDINE
RAZER2
2007 700 FI GRIZZLY,26" SWAMP LITES, ALL STOCK. NEW TRAIL MACHINE

oh yea. the engine breaking is very very good. i mean good. just had to throw that in there.. and it does not matter wich is faster. they both have more then enough power. everyone worries about how fast they are. the big kawi brute has more. but could u get it thru the woods faster then these two? i highly dought it. the rider means alot. u can have the fastest atv on the planet. but u also have to be able to ride and control this thing>>>>

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03 GRIZZLY
11:1 WEISCO
EPI CLUTCH KIT
HOT CAMS MUD BUSTER
DYNO JET
K&N
FMF
GORILLA AXLES
28" MUDZILLAS, SNORKELED,
MODED FRAME IN WEAK SPOTS, NO FLEX.
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05 YFZ 450
DYNO JET
K&N
JARDINE
RAZER2
2007 700 FI GRIZZLY,26" SWAMP LITES, ALL STOCK. NEW TRAIL MACHINE

I'm just not all that comfortable on a big top heavy utility ATV with low pressure flotation tires and soft suspension and a solid rear differential section flying down a trail, gravel road or pavement at top speed. The handling, well, it's just not a confidence inspiring. Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.

I find that I rarely find myself hitting 40 mph on my ATV. That is on the gravel go to and from certain parts of my farm. On the trails around my farm I don't think I hit 10 very often. It's just too tight and curvy through the woods to go very fast. Most of the times a very fast runner could go as fast or faster than I'm going. Heck many times someone could nearly walk faster.

I don't really care about top speed. I care about usable power. I care about handling. I care about comfortable ride. I care about durability. I care about build quality. I care about manufacturer support after the sale.

The handling, well, it's just not a confidence inspiring. Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.

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I seem to be able to keep up with most on the trails. The only area of trouble would be sharp high speed corners.

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

lol. i think that most utes have come far enough. that they dont handle like pregnant whales.. both mine have done well. the 03 used to be quite the hare scramble machine. till i put on the 28 zillas. and we go a bit faster then 10 mph thru our trail system. unless its the very tight rocky technical stuff. my yfz 450 is the railing machine. but the big utes can do the job. not a sport quad by no means. but u can go fast enough to make ur hair stand up at times.. just dont let one get away from u.. he he

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03 GRIZZLY
11:1 WEISCO
EPI CLUTCH KIT
HOT CAMS MUD BUSTER
DYNO JET
K&N
FMF
GORILLA AXLES
28" MUDZILLAS, SNORKELED,
MODED FRAME IN WEAK SPOTS, NO FLEX.
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05 YFZ 450
DYNO JET
K&N
JARDINE
RAZER2
2007 700 FI GRIZZLY,26" SWAMP LITES, ALL STOCK. NEW TRAIL MACHINE

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
well so far. i love my new grizz. there is only one complaint. the darn seat is sooo thick and feels high. i am going to try to get an upolstry place to cut it down some. my 03 grizz u set lower on it. but the seat is cummfy.. just feels tall....

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Just the thought of tearing up that beautifully comfortable seat makes me cringe. This is not a race quad. I think you need to give yourself a little time to adjust to the best seat of all time. You may regret modifying the seat. And I have modified the seat on darn near everything I have ever owned, but just not this one.



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08 KLR650
07 Grizz 700
04 KDX220
07 KTM525XC
01 GL1800ABS

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Originally posted by: CaptainQuint
....Come on. Compared to vehicles designed for such activities the things ride like pregnant whales.....

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I suppose that comparing either the Griz or the King to a good sport quad at speed may seem like riding a pregnant whale. However, there is major difference between various sport utilities. While test riding the Polaris 500 EFI, I did think that this feels just like riding a boat. Then on the King Quad it felt much more like a sport quad.




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08 KLR650
07 Grizz 700
04 KDX220
07 KTM525XC
01 GL1800ABS

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Originally posted by: FITSofRAGE
the power steering gives u the, i just dont get tired riding it feel. it handles way better then my 03. wich i still love the 03, but its kinda like godzilla now. the ergonomics of the 07 grizz are great. and u can use diff lock. and really not know your in diff lock with the power steering. i tested this quite a bit while riding some tight places. u can actually use diff lock at any time. very good thing. :,)

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You're right, you can't tell when you are in four wheel drive with the new Grizzly, based on steering anyway. We rode last weekend, and there was two feet of fresh snow at our house when we loaded up in the morning, so I put the Grizzly 700 in 4x4 to get it up on the trailer, and my son used the speed is my friend technique to get the YFZ 450 on the trailer. We went riding someplace 50 miles south, and 3000 feet lower elevation than where we live, and there was no snow at all. I unloaded the Grizzly and didn't even think about the fact that I had put it in four wheel drive earlier that morning. I ended up riding for 15 miles before I figured out it was in four wheel drive. And the only reason I discovered it was in four wheel drive was because my son on the YFZ started challenging me in the turns, and I noticed that I could not do the drift king routine in the turns with the Grizzly like I normally can. The Grizzly just wanted to hook up and go around the turn instead of letting the rear end drift out. I looked at the dash display and noticed it was in four wheel drive, but would have never noticed it based on steering effort. As soon as I dissengaged four wheel drive it was back to full throttle power slides again.

The Grizzly is no sport quad, but it does real good for a utility ATV (better than any other I have ridden).

DV


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'09 Can-Am Renegade 800: ATVTorture.com project quad
'08 KTM 950 R Super Enduro
'08 Dodge Challenger SRT8
'04 Jeep Wrangler Sport

yep thats why they call them sport utilitys. ive got my new 26" swamp lites and 7 series itp,s coming too. im staying with a smaller tire. i dont want to turn this one into godzilla, like my 03. i got one to bog. and one to trail ride. and the 450 just to flat out rail. i feel now i have the best of all worlds. work my butt off for them. but i like all my toys.. now that im single. its quite nice. the difference between men and boyz are the price of there toyzzzzzzzz and the seat has still got to go. i ride very agressive thru the woods. and some of my friends are the same way. my old grizz's seat was just fine. and still is. the new grizz does have a very plush seat. but i dont really care about a softest seat. i like to ride. and ride hard alot. so i rather set a bit lower on it. may be a ute. but they still handle well for what they are. there not just made to putt along. although, its nice sometimes to do that. but i like to keep the old throttle on. man i wish it would snow here. even though i hate winter. id like to go hit the road. and do some snow rideing. but as of now. i just luvvvvvvvv my new grizzo.. and i cant wait to go bogggg my old grizzo some more

oh by the way. i did see in dirt wheels that the new grizzo won the shootout. was a toss up between the rincon, grizzly, and sportsman?? eeekkk. at the end. i thought they would say the honda. but all seemed to round it out. and picked the grizz. and i also read another article. where the honda rincon won a shootout. so guess its just who is rideing them. and who is judgeing them. but ill stick with my grizzo.. yamaha has been very good to me. since i was the age of 7. but i still like the king quad too..

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03 GRIZZLY
11:1 WEISCO
EPI CLUTCH KIT
HOT CAMS MUD BUSTER
DYNO JET
K&N
FMF
GORILLA AXLES
28" MUDZILLAS, SNORKELED,
MODED FRAME IN WEAK SPOTS, NO FLEX.
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05 YFZ 450
DYNO JET
K&N
JARDINE
RAZER2
2007 700 FI GRIZZLY,26" SWAMP LITES, ALL STOCK. NEW TRAIL MACHINE

I have no complaints about the new Grizz seat either, but then again I was used to a Brute Force 750 (if you think the new Grizz sits high, you should try a Brute Force!). I ride quite agressively at times myself and actually I find myself standing more than sitting down anyway (after over 20 years of dirt bike riding standing feels more natural plus you have better control of the machine and a better sight distance when rapidly traversing terrain). I can be just cruising along with my riding buddies right behind me, but then when I stand up I actually speed up without realizing it sometimes and the next thing I know I'm riding by myself...

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- 07: Grizzly 700
- 05: Recon ES
- 02: Grizzly 660

And If you think a BF sits high, you should try a new Arctic Cat!!

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2006 650V2
Dynatek CDI
NGK Power Racing Cables
Iridium Plugs
K&N
Amsoil In Everything
26" Swamplites
Delta Chrome Steel Rims
Venom 2500XT Winch
Brushguard Front/Rear Bumpers
AC Handguards
Cargo Box
Gun Scabbard
Magellan GPS
Alarm System
Gel Grips
Baja Lights
Odyssey PC680 Battery

Speaking about how high these utility quads are, ... Yamaha actually kept the Grizzly 700 reasonably low, considering how much ground clearance it has. We have had my Dad's Brute Force 650i parked right alongside my Grizzly 700 on the trailer, and it surprised me that the front rack of his Brute Force 650i with 25" tires was actually an inch higher than the front rack of my Grizzly 700 with 27" tires. And his 25" tires had 3 psi in them, whereas my 27" tires had 6 psi in them. And I believe the Brute Force 750i is a bit higher than the 650i.

V2Rider,
any chance you can measure the distance to the top of the front rack on your Arctic Cat? My Grizzly 700 measures 38 1/2"

DV

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'09 Can-Am Renegade 800: ATVTorture.com project quad
'08 KTM 950 R Super Enduro
'08 Dodge Challenger SRT8
'04 Jeep Wrangler Sport