05/22/2007 11:39 PM
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Chickenlips01
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The Guy in the dealership I bought my outlaw 525 from in Central Oregon, sent his owen down to Muzzy. They built a new exhaust for it. Stock on the dyno was 55hp. After the exhaust was 59 hp!
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05/23/2007 12:16 PM
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Chickenlips01
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P.S. The pitcock fell out of the bottom of the gas tank. Thats being recalled on some.
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05/23/2007 05:51 PM
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ss97
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holy crap... that thing must rip your arms out of the socket....
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05/31/2007 10:19 AM
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ss97
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I'm actually surprised there are no Outlaws running in the GNCC XC races.....
I looked at the results from every race and you can't find any Polaris until deep into the "C" class, and most of those are Predators.....
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'05 Zuki z400
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05/31/2007 11:45 PM
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Chickenlips01
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Got me? MAybe the factory won't sponser. Maybe they eat too much gas hauling all the tools around. STD, Metric. You name it mine needs it.
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06/01/2007 04:28 AM
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GE4x4
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There are about 10 that are running GNCC. This isn't more because only a very small number were made so that they can be raced. The 2nd phaze of 525's just hit the market a month ago. So not many are out.
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07 Outlaw 525 IRS 03 250EX 05 LTZ 250 http://community.webshots.com/...EtXgAk?327">XC Quad</a>
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06/05/2007 02:08 PM
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ss97
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Originally posted by: GE4x4
There are about 10 that are running GNCC. This is more because only a very small number were made so that they can be raced. The 2nd faze of 525's just hit the market a month ago. So not many are out.
I can't find 10 listed anywhere. None of the "A" class pros are riding one, at least none are listed in the top 20 in points.
There are a few listed in specific local districts but those are all Novice class riders.
There two Predators listed in the Pro-Am class, but one of those riders just switched to a 450R for the next race. He must have gotten some partial sponsorship to switch mid-year like that.
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06/06/2007 05:38 PM
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modquad
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I would love to see HPD get their hands on one of these motors......  Le Zoom!
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06/06/2007 07:12 PM
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Chickenlips01
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The more people that can get their hands on these the better!
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06/06/2007 08:20 PM
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GE4x4
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Bryan Baker in Pro, Billy Good/Pro Am, Mike Shroka in Junior A, There's a guy in sr class, John Galleger Sr in the super snior class, Steph Parton in Woman's, and a few others all on 525's. Now with the 2nd batch out, more will be seen after the summer break.
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07 Outlaw 525 IRS 03 250EX 05 LTZ 250 http://community.webshots.com/...EtXgAk?327">XC Quad</a>
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06/06/2007 08:26 PM
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GE4x4
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Plus Doug Eichner in the WORCS series is on one, and got Polaris it's 1st ever national Pro win on it 2nd race. He got 2nd on it's 1st race. And the WORCS allways has a full MX track as part of the race. He got the win on a near stock Outlaw going against fully decked 450's. Then this weekend, a Outlaw got 5th in the pro class in the Baja 500 in it's debut race. Stock chassie other then shocks. Pretty impressive compared to the other fully modded quads.
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07 Outlaw 525 IRS 03 250EX 05 LTZ 250 http://community.webshots.com/...EtXgAk?327">XC Quad</a>
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06/07/2007 09:24 AM
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Great engine don't get me wrong, but your shop guy needs to check the correction factor or the calibration of his dynomometer.
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06/07/2007 10:42 PM
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Chickenlips01
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Sorry, cant help it if your turning green with envy, maddog56. These motors are rated with 51.5hp from the factory. I guess your raptor proves bigger isn't always better.
Don't rain on my parade!
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06/08/2007 08:59 AM
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garyc660R
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Originally posted by: Chickenlips01
Sorry, cant help it if your turning green with envy, maddog56. These motors are rated with 51.5hp from the factory. I guess your raptor proves bigger isn't always better.
Don't rain on my parade!
Lets be realistic here...ALL dirt bike engines are detuned for atv use.....good luck getting low-mid 40's stock and last I hear the 525's are not running off and leaving any of the top sport quads in the dust. I don't think Maddog is to worried about power compared to his ride or anyone elses, just posting an educated opinion.
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06/08/2007 03:02 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking Gary, thanks.
The Cali ARB is testing them at the crank and only getting 50hp out of the Outlaw 525. For comparison their Raptor 700R reading was 47hp. If you look around the net at dyno sheets from other outlaw 525 owners 55hp is off in left field for stock rwhp and still high for crank hp.
Don't forget the increased resistance of the IRS setup which means that you'll have more than standard driveline losses and a lower RWHP than on a SRA sport quad.
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06/08/2007 07:15 PM
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modquad
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Here we go comparing dyno results from different parts of the world. Sigh......just ride what ya have, and have fun doin' it.
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06/08/2007 08:28 PM
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GregV
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You may see some Outlaws out there when they come out with a 450 class version.
Until then you will only see them in the Open classses.
There are a lot of factors when DYNO testing......
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06/08/2007 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by: modquad
Here we go comparing dyno results from different parts of the world. Sigh......just ride what ya have, and have fun doin' it. [IMG][/IMG]
California isn't much of a stretch from Central Oregon...
KTM claims 51.5 crank hp for thier 525 atv application according to ATV Sport. Debate about atvs is good, it helps each of us learn more about our own machines and others on the market. I just didn't want an unsuspecting person to mistake those numbers as a legitimate representation at standard conditions of the majority of stock outlaw 525s. I'd feel similarly inclined to speak up if someone was claiming 50 rwhp from a stock 700R or any similar situation.
I wouldn't think twice about a dyno being a few hp off but this is quite a bit off. It's fine if it's being used as a tuning tool to compare power output before and after modifications I simply didn't want someone to mistake his numbers as an accurate representation of actual rwhp.
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06/08/2007 10:56 PM
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Chickenlips01
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Thanks for looking out for the unsuspecting. I am sure they are grateful.
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06/10/2007 01:37 AM
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modquad
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Hmmm, one's dyno'd in the morning, and the other in the afternoon heat. One's dyno'd with slicks, the other with ITP Holeshots. One has a stock air filter, the other...someone slipped a K&N and re-jetted it.
Don't believe it unless you see the "controls" on how the test was performed.
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06/13/2007 11:52 PM
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Chickenlips01
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Originally posted by: modquad
Hmmm, one's dyno'd in the morning, and the other in the afternoon heat. One's dyno'd with slicks, the other with ITP Holeshots. One has a stock air filter, the other...someone slipped a K&N and re-jetted it.
Don't believe it unless you see the "controls" on how the test was performed.
Changing filters and jetting is just adding horses! They are talking the calerbation of the dyno it's self.
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