That is the good thing about states that have a program. Virginia couldn't care less...

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

Apparent you are correct Dragginbutt...... Below is a list with reprocity with Utah...

Reprocity

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05 Scrambler 500 H.O.
05 Raptor 660R
03 Big Bear 400 4X4
03 TRX 250 EX

05 3612 RAPTOR..........
04 Dodge Cummins Turbo 4X4 "Haulin it all!!!"
MMMMMMMMMMMMM!

Be careful what you wish for. Here in Michigan, we pay 16.25 a year for an ORV sticker which gives us the right to ride on State land. BUT the DNR mis-directs our funds and uses them inappropiately,so essentially, its big governement screwing the working man as best as he can. We are so messed up here in Michigan, that im going to see an Attorney after the first of the year.

Being charged yearly ORV funds for safety courses, law enforcement, administration fees,trail maintenence, damage restoration is ALL fine,until you put this money in the WRONG hands and it gets used wrong.

Thanks flyin'... I am hoping to one day ride the trails out your way. The Paiute trails sound really nice.

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

ATV Registration in PA. cost $20.00 for 2 years. For your $20.00 you get a cute little registration plate w/expiration sticker (same size plate as a motorcycle) that you will have NO place to put it on the back of your quad. But it looks great in my desk drawer I do keep a copy of the registration and insurance card on the quad
"Gee officer the plate was there when I left"

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'07 Raptor 700 SE
HMF Full exhaust,GYTR skids,AC nerfs, K&N filter,Dobeck TFI controller,Trailtech Vapor computer,Maxxis razr 2 tires
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'06 Suzuki King Quad 700 EFI

Edited: 02/11/2008 at 12:55 AM by viper5

Here in New Brunswick, $41 per year to licence and it costs me app.$250 for insurance(mandatory).Fines are very heavy.

Tennessee has a TDS sticker that must be on the bike to ride on any public lands. Sticker is cheap - $8 and it's good for the life of the quad, even transfers from owner to owner. There are a few more popular state riding areas that have extra fees required.

Jaybee

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'07 Outlander 800 XT Camo
'02 Eiger 5-sp
'02 Ozark
'96 TRX90

Old rides: '89 Warrior, '93 KQ 300, '97 Warrior, '84 LT50, '98 LT80

'07 GMC Sierra 2500HD DMax
25' six-place flatbed trailer

Yeah, a lot of guys who live in VA go up and register in PA just so they can go to other states that require a registration. I tied to go to my birth state of Wisconsin a few years ago, where I own 9 acres of land still, and was told that even though I was a registered citizen of Virginia, I had to not only pay the sticker, but I also had to pay the difference in sales tax to be "Legal" to ride on public lands. And WI has some steep sales taxes. I said no thanks... At least not until I move there permanently when I retire... But with an attitude like that, I might just re-think my retirement location choice... family roots and all. Why when ther eare so many otherplaces to live and ride....
I hear guys from Illinois and MN all the time complaining about it. I don't mind paying an out of state sticker fee if it is reasonable, much like an out of state fishing license, but the sales tax deal was a bit much.

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

DB, that's why all those other guys run to PA to get a sticker. I frequently ride in Wisconsin, since I have my $8 lifetime sticker from Tennessee, all I need to buy to ride in Wisconsin is the $18 sticker that the DNR requires. Since I usually ride in Wisconsin in May or June, I can get away with only buying a sticker every other year - the stickers are good from the opening of the trails in May through the following June, so it's actually a 13 month sticker. $9 a year ain't bad.

As far as enforcement goes, the rangers at Royal Blue have been on the ball this year. We've been stopped three times so far in '08. I've only been stopped two or three times in the last ten years total.

Jaybee

Jaybee

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'07 Outlander 800 XT Camo
'02 Eiger 5-sp
'02 Ozark
'96 TRX90

Old rides: '89 Warrior, '93 KQ 300, '97 Warrior, '84 LT50, '98 LT80

'07 GMC Sierra 2500HD DMax
25' six-place flatbed trailer

In Texas, they stickers are required to ride on public property, but "recommended" on private property. Since I have been getting back into the riding scene, what I have been able to gather is that the police in various areas chose, or chose not to strictly enforce it.

Near the Trinity River (between Beaumont and Houston, on I-10) used to be a very popular riding place. That has now been heavily patrolled by police. Then again, I have had officers pass me heading to my fav riding spot, while riding on the grass on the side of the road, and they never blinked an eye. It also probably has a lot to do with how much the soccer moms of a specific area complain.

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03 Raptor 660R, Full FMF Exhaust w/Power Bomb, DynoJet Stage II
06 Cool Sports 250ST-D (gf's)
07 Roketa ATV-110H (son's)

Hey I believe in them totally if hte money is used to fund trail projects. No complaints from me. As for enfocement.. well I am old school. I just put the sticker on the machine and don't have to worry about it any longer.

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

New Hampshire requires registration stickers. For just less than a bajillion dollars you can outfit your ride with a sticker! They run from July 1st of this year untill June 30th of Next year then its time for a new one! You better have your rigs regestered up here or the law is gonna get ya! Local Cops, Staties and Conservation Officers can and will enforce ATV laws as they see fit.

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"Lord protect me, While I protect others"

Ride Safe, Ride Smart, Ride Home

Stock 02 P650
custom winch mounts
Mudlights
Numerous scratches and broken parts=war stories

You know it isn't all a bad thing. For one, registration helps track stolen machines. I know that many people gripe about it, but you really need to analyze what you get for the money. If your state takes time to put together a program, chances are they are also spending a lot of time planning trails, canvassing enthusiasts, training etc. Those of us that live in states that ignore ATV's and rely soley on the federal dollar to fund programs or build riding areas in naional forests can attest to the advantages that you have over us. I'd really love to have a riding area close by without having to trailer for 6 hours. Think about the cost of fuel today, 25 bucks is a bargain if I am close to home.

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

Here in New York State they require registration and insurance. When you register you get a tag the ATV must have. I know someone who had their ATV impounded for driving on a road without insurance or registration. It took him 700 bucks to clear up the fines and have his ATV released.

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1986 TRX250 Honda
1986 350x Honda
1986 Big Red 250 Honda

We just had our fees doubled for a 2 yr registration.Went from $25 to $50. If the money was going to be used for more trails/riding areas it wouldnt bother me as much. As it is the only thing I see my fees buying is more fences. I just got my packet of registrations for my "even year" ohv's. 12 of them...adds up to $600.00. For the last few years I havnt register all of my toys. Now I will think over what will be used and what wont. My CR500 is due this June 30th, and its going to retire after a trip to Pismo mid June.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

Dude, you going to polish her up and put her on a pedastal or just put her away dirty as a testament to her faithfulness? HAH. I was at my local dealers the other day and I found out that Honda is making what I think was a 650? The big deal was it had the fat, tall seat like the good old days.... Man, and it had electric start too. Oh.. and if I wasn't already paying for my wife's quad... I sure think about it real hard... NAH, I don't have the legs for it any more. I am lucky to be walking as it is, no sense in tempting fate one more time... But I have to tell ya, I haven't gotten all drooly over something like I did when I sat on the new Yamaha 450 MX. It sure sent me back to the Maico days... and that Honda sure felt alot like my Elsinore... Ah to be young again...... and a hundred pounds lighter...

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

Ive been thinking about that for a while now....its had a paddle tire and a flag on it for the last 3 years. Only been ridden at Pismo. I was thinking of cleaning it up a little, changing all the fluids and putting a knobby on it. Then putting a clean sheet over it and putting it in the back of my shop somewhere. I used to think it was the ultimate sand bike until I rode my KTM in the sand with a paddle. Hard top beat a 6 speed tranny anywhere.

You know DB, Ive been doing a lot of test riding on the prototype Jetmoto 350 lately. Ive decided that at speed a quad is much more tiring and tough to go fast on. On my KTM I only need to look for about a 5-7" wide smooth line. Darn quad needs about 4'....Must be why BlackBalled wants all those roads made in Michigan.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

I zip tied my plate on my frame and within a week it was bent to shit, muddy and looked 10 years old. They're pointless if the machine cant be street legal.

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1986 TRX250 Honda
1986 350x Honda
1986 Big Red 250 Honda

Yeah, I know what you mean... Unfortunately with the bum knee and ankle, I am prety much relegated to 4 wheels now. I ws riding the other day ( Yes, I actually got it out, cleaned it up from all the mouse droppings and bug spooge, and got all 4 running. ) I went for a trail ride with my wife, son and a bunch of others and had a couple areas where I had to stand and get the weight over the front end... What I can say is the ankle/Fibula is NEVER going to heal enough for me to be able to stand on the pegs again. It has been almost 6 years now for the knee, and 2 and a half for the ankle, and it still hurts. The metal plates, and the screws dug in and even with my new Tech 4's, the pressure they put on the Fibula and screws was just too much to handle.. and I had ot sit back down. I knew I was in trouble when I put the boot on, and it took about an hour for it to get comfortable enough to ignore the pain. I had bought them because since the surgeries, the lower leg and knee/calf had swelled and I had to buy a boot with enough adjustability in it to be able to snap in place. They were good to go when I bought them, but the leg had swelled since I bought them, so I am back to square one again boot wise.
No way I am getting on a dirt bike. Besides, I can't kick start it anyway without any hamstrings in the right leg. (Used them to reconstruct the ACL) No fun to just putt around, and the new MX bikes are so uncomfortable. That is why I was surprised to find the new Honda with the old style seat. I am tempted, but will probably end up with either a Rhino or one of the new quads with Power steering. If you haven't had a chance to ride one, you should try it out. That Grizzly 700 with power steering and FI is nice. Combined wiht independant rear suspension, and it is like riding on a cloud and it takes no effort at all to turn it. Not like the tank like feeling I get on my Rubicon. I am still sold on my machine for being a pure work horse, but after riding my wife's with the independant rear.. I have to say it is a cadillac. I drag on logs that it will clear.
Besides, remember also that I couldn't tell you what a sand dune looks like... Out East, it is all woods and mountain trails. Speed usually does not enter in the equation. Solid handling and comfort is premium. And don't forget cupholders... My next purchase has ot have cupholders...(Wink wink).
I know you prefer single tracks... I still like wide paths that are safe. Out here, I am seeing the trails open up to teh side by side crowds now. I think it is great. Can't pass them on the trail, but I am glad they are out there as it brings another element to the sport, and introduces a different segment of riders to our cause. I for one feel there is room for everyone out there...

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Lets just say these old bones have buckets of experience...
Yamaha Warrior
Yamaha Blaster
Yamaha Raptor 660
Yamaha Raptor 80
Honda Rubicon
Yamaha 450 IRS 4x4

Wow ...to never stand again while riding. hmmmm, boy that would slow me down real quick. Good to hear you got out and did some riding though. You may have to get some of those 50/50 boots a few of the boot guys are making. Just like a mx boot but only 1/2 as tall.

The only side by side that does anything for me is the RZR. It would be nice to take on quad trails....someday.

I know you like the wider trail. Im still not sure if its safer all the time, but can see your point. Bottom line for me is..no matter how wide or narrow the trail is its easier to find a smooth line on a dirt bike.

Dunes are a once a year deal for me. Started for us in the early 80's. (wife and i got married in '79) Enduros were in the fall and spring. Winter was great mud riding. Summer was dry, hot and dusty. Never liked riding then much. Then I watched Gary Baileys Rider Technique video. It not only changed the way I rode...but where I rode.. A part of the tape showed Gary messing around in the sand. He talked about how fun it was and how it made you a better rider. We went that summer in June and August ('83) We went for 6 summers and then bought a house in '90 and didnt go there for a few years. Still camped in the mountains and rode though. When the boys got good enough to ride in the sand we started going again. That was in '97 and we now go twice a year just like the old days.

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07 Jetmoto 250 Sport
07 90cc Mini Ute
06 Jetmoto 200 Enduro
06 Jetmoto 200
06 Jetmoto 150
06 Jetmoto 125
04 Yamoto 150
01 KTM 400 EXC
92 WR 250
91 CR 250
88 YZ 80
85 CR 500
83 XL 600
82 XR 200
79 XR 75
79 Odyssey
73 Bultaco 360
71 Rickman Montessa 250
70 Rupp Enduro
69 Honda 50

Yeah I looked at teh half boots, but they are not much more than any sort of leather boot I already wear. So I thought maybe a new pair of boots that had a little more room in them would give me more support along the ankle and Fibula. My old ones didn't have enough adjustability in them ot allow me to get my calfs in them. After all the surgeries, the calves have gotten a lot thicker. I managed to get some that were