I am looking into the new Predator and am wondering which is faster in a drag race and top speed, Predator or Banshee. I know the Banshee dynoes 40.5hp to the wheels and the Predator 43hp to the wheels. The Banshee weighing about 375lbs and the Predator about 415lbs. The Predator I feel has a far superior chassis, suspension, and drivetrain, possibly a more efficient machine? I am not considering a Banshee, a friend has a couple of built up ones, 370 and a 420?. I know they should be faster, but how much difference are we talking? A broader and higher torque curve should be able to keep up with a peaky high rpm machine, such as with cars. Anyways, which is faster top speed and in a drag race?

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07 Outlander 800 Max XT, TFI, HMF, UNI

Dude... if built even half way decent, the 370 or 420 banshee will dominate.

(absolutely no question about that)


edit: In accelaration, that is. Chassis/suspention, the Pred will dominate an equal amount.

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2001 Honda RVT1000R (RC51) Arrow High mounts, PowerCommander IIIr w/ Kyle Racing map, steel braded lines, more
1997 Yamaha Banshee, FMF's, .20 over ect
1993 Kawasaki KX500- piped,10 paddle, and sick fast.
1998 Honda 300EX.. wider, longer and louder

My main question was stock Banshee vs stock Predator, I kinda went off track there with mentioning my friends built Shee's. Which is faster, stock for stock, Banshee vs Predator. I am thinking the Predator......

When these Banshee stroker kits are done does rpm increase significantly? so top speed would increase without changing gearing, just pulling higher rpm?

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07 Outlander 800 Max XT, TFI, HMF, UNI

*SHRUG* Banshees and raptors are a close race, and raptors and Preds are a close race.
I think it really depends on the rider. (stock for stock)
A bad rider on the Shee will blow his race very quickly.
Stock for stock, im sure they are very close.

Stroker kits dont increase RPM, but they make more torque and HP to pull much higher gearing.

-Matt

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2001 Honda RVT1000R (RC51) Arrow High mounts, PowerCommander IIIr w/ Kyle Racing map, steel braded lines, more
1997 Yamaha Banshee, FMF's, .20 over ect
1993 Kawasaki KX500- piped,10 paddle, and sick fast.
1998 Honda 300EX.. wider, longer and louder

for pure drag racing, the stock banshee is quicker than a stock raptor. put the same mods on both, and the banshee is still faster. rappy's have better suspenders, though. dirtwheels compared these two machines in their feb. issue... currently out on stands.

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'96 Banshee, FMF pipes, boyesen reeds, ITP .190 red label, shredders, uni.
'02 YZF-R1

ok, in a drag race i say the stock predator will beat the banshee.I like 4-strokes personally, because 2-strokes arent worth crap in trails, or climbing hills.And i heard the predator pulls 46 horses at the rear wheels.


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KFX 700 V-Force

Hey Sportyroxx, I trailride my Zilla all the time, its great at lugging around.

Tell me what stock 4 stroke will climb a steeper hill than my Zilla, also.



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2001 Honda RVT1000R (RC51) Arrow High mounts, PowerCommander IIIr w/ Kyle Racing map, steel braded lines, more
1997 Yamaha Banshee, FMF's, .20 over ect
1993 Kawasaki KX500- piped,10 paddle, and sick fast.
1998 Honda 300EX.. wider, longer and louder

oops... i read the post wrong! for some reason i read it has raptor vs. banshee... so assume i was talking about the raptor! by the way, are you sure the pred is faster than a banshee?

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'96 Banshee, FMF pipes, boyesen reeds, ITP .190 red label, shredders, uni.
'02 YZF-R1

No he's not sure. The only person here who spoke on this issue with any knowledge and truth was 350X.

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01 Raptor B/W 02 trans,
01 Raptor Blue, 02 trans,

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St Anthonys, LS Utah, Glamis, Dumont, Pismo videos

yup pretty much what 350 said sums it up

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"You Either Ride Blue or Follow it"
2004 Blue YFZ 450
Modified and more to come

Guy if your thinking about DRAGGGGGG RACINGGGGGGGGGG
the BANSHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats it your frends 370 well beat any 4 stroke ..............................
thats about a 1000$ to 1200$
4 strokes are way more $$$ to get any reall HP's and speed!
because your talking stock today but i promise you will be talking pipes tomarrow once you lose to the fist guy wiyh pipes and your stock on either bikeeeeeeeeee

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465EX Curtis Sparks and moreee
350 Drag Banshee

I LOVE THAT WOMENNNNNN

the SPARKS 686 RAPTOR smoked everything!!!

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2002 400EX
FMF Titanium 4, 155 main jet, KN Filter, Front wheels Flipped, Plus 4 LS axle, 19 inch holeshots fr mxs, 18x11x9 holeshot mx rears, 9 inch douglas beadlocks, nacs seat and headlight covers, outer wears f and r, works tripple rate w.rezzies

Stock for stock drag race Banshee VS Predator = Better Rider wins most of the time. They will be very close just like all the top High performance quads. Stock vs Stock they are all close! Any bozo that will say one will blow the other away stock is just that a BOZO!

If you plan to set it up for drag racing to compete with your friends get the banshee, The Predator will not compete without way too much $$$$$$$

If you want a stock quad the handles nice has excellent suspension and stock for stock will be a much better track and trail quad get the Predator!


Nocando

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2001 B&W Raptor
HotCam Stage 1, 11-1 Piston
Elka SSD Shocks all around
Lonestar Stem Tag 2 Bars
+2 +1 A-arms
Durablue 2+2
White Brothers R4
185,190 / Pro_flow No lid
AC Bumper and DG Nerfs
GYTR Skids

(predator vs banshee) the ds650 will win unless the banshee has a 12year old on it!!

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2001 DS650 700cc Falicon STROKER!!
Sponsored BY Bombardier, ELKA Suspensions, ProGrip, Web Cams,661
2002 Honda Rancher 4X4ES
2003 3500 Dodge ram quad cab LB HO cummins 6-spd
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR 2003 CHCA
4th overall 2003 CHCA
6th Pike peak international hill climb

aint nothing goimg to beat a 582banshee on alky with out motor swaping

PERIOD.....

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465EX Curtis Sparks and moreee
350 Drag Banshee

I LOVE THAT WOMENNNNNN

You could build up the predator and a predator does beat a raptor in drag c march Dirt wheels shot out

yea Id say banshee all the way, except MX or mabey trails

Stock vs. stock the predator is a little quicker. but once you add pipes, jets and other bolt ons the predator is pretty even out to about 300 ft then the banshee will pull away. If your wanting a drag bike, your going to be happier with the banshee. alot more potential for drag racing. If you want a fast all around atv with great suspension, then your going to like the predator. It's going to have more to do with what your looking to do with the bike. they both have good and bad points. But your not going to see any 125 hp predator engine kit's out there. But it's also nice to just fill up the tank with gas and go. no mixing, no fouled plugs. And a stock predator is not going to be in the same time zone as a big bore banshee. there fast but, not that fast.

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Superbike "Billet 580"
Lectron 48mm
Airforce Intake System
Custom exhaust pipe.

Talis? are you sure..

stock for stock my money would go to the predator(maybe not a big margin, but it would be faster)

also my raptor with a pipe, will outrun piped banshees, now if you add porting to the banshee, then the story changes, but if I added the porting to the raptor? who know's.

As for a stroker motor, I have never personally experienced one, but a friend has a 01' banshee, only .020 over, (no stroker) (a few other mods) and he outruns stokers and powervalves alot.........is it him or his shee......I am not sure but it does happen that way.......

for trail riding mostly and jumping alot, I believe that most would be happier with a predator over the banshee, much much better suspension, and more low end. This is not to say the banshee sucks, cause it it fun too, just a different kind of power........

Some say it like potato....some say it like pototo........................

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01' 660 soon to be resurrected

Dude,
Unless all you are going to do is drag race in the sand the Predator is a better all around bike.

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03 Predator and proud of it!
Check out the pic page...new Predator pics soon.
Don't hate it cause its faster than you...

a im tellin you get a banshee they can be perty fast

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01 banshee 580 stroker cutom cpi drag pipes runs off meth and alky,151.8hp on the bottle