
05/18/2007 08:20 AM
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hally
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Anyone out there come across any mods yet to make this litlle slug go faster. I have contacted procom and dynatek for cdi units and nothing being made yet.
Please help if you can
Hally
Western Australia
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05/18/2007 09:40 AM
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frotrk
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I presume you have removed the restrictors.
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05/18/2007 01:43 PM
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WAATV
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We have the 2-stroke version (LT-A50) and it has PLENTY of power. The 4-stroke will probably have less due to the heavier engine, but it should still get up and go. Have you asked the dealer? Perhaps there's something wrong with it.
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2006 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI (hers) 2004 Polaris Sportsman 700 (mine) 2002 Suzuki Quadmaster 50 (son's)
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05/18/2007 02:33 PM
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bradr
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remember it is a 50
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ltz 250- -dyno jet kit -yoshi exhaust -maxxis sur trak tires -stage 2 web cams -procircuit header -ac racing front bumper -dg grab bar -stage 2 valve springs
future mods -ported & polished head -wiseco 10.25:1 piston -procom cdi box -xeon conversion
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05/18/2007 07:04 PM
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yfzdreamer
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Originally posted by: bradr
remember it is a 50
halleluja
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05/18/2007 08:37 PM
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Hibrass
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I"m afraid your problem isn't the fact it is a 4 stroke... It is the factory Suzuki CDI. At this time no one has a replacement. I have opened up the airbox to help on that end and took some weights out of the Clutch and that help a little out of the hole.
Sorry but I have one also and I have one disappointed 6 yr old riding it... Its a shame really it is the perfect size for smaller children with properly size controls if it wasn't for the overly restrictive CDI this thing would rock for seriuos trail riding.
Good Luck,
Hibrass
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"If you don't know the dog, don't yank his chain!"
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05/20/2007 12:15 AM
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hally
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Thanks hybrass
your onto it mate the cdi is the problem. I have contacted dynatek and procom who make cdi units and they have nohing in the development stage so I guess we just wait. And they are a fantastic little bike. My 5 year old loves it. We have a 20 acre property here in WA and I have made the boy's a really good track (I'm into earthmoving) and its a shame the bike is not as good as his confidence. The oldest boy has a 06 lt80 and thats fantastic. could you reccomend anywhere over your way who I could get tyres and rims and shock/springs for lt80 06 suitable for racing
Hally
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05/20/2007 12:23 AM
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hally
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WAATV
quads are not very big here in WA so thats why I thought I would get on this forum. The dealer isn't interested so we are on our own. I thought the US was the a good place to start. The forum has been helpful.
Cheers anyway cobber
Hally
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05/20/2007 12:24 AM
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hally
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Hibrass
what did you do to the airbox mate
hally
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05/20/2007 07:17 AM
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Hibrass
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The airbox is very restrictive by design. (It is also very difficult to get to... ) I had to take off the rear plastic to get to it and remove the box. Once it was out I took a hole saw and opened up the air intake side then put the shield back on with self tapping screws... If you need any more info I need to get into it and clean it and I will take some pics..
Keep in mind if you do this it will want more gas... But then the CDI rears its ugly head... I really believe this engine would respond well to normal 4 stroke tuning tricks if the CDI wasn't such a piece of crap...
And since this is such a long post..... I was really fed yesterday and took my 6 year old to the local shop to see how he would fit on the Suzuki 90... What a waste.... The controls are so big some Kid would have to have adult size hands to use them and no foot brake... The CVT setup is nice though... Over all at this point if I was to move up to another bike I think I would just get another TRX 90 and lock it in 2nd gear.....
Later,
Hibrass
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05/21/2007 02:10 PM
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WAATV
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Originally posted by: hallyquads are not very big here in WA so thats why I thought I would get on this forum. The dealer isn't interested so we are on our own. I thought the US was the a good place to start. The forum has been helpful.
Interesting... the "WA" in my username means "Washington State". Lots of quads on the EAST side of the state, anyway! Perhaps it's the Idaho influence? [grin]
Ironically, we bought our son's LT-A50 from a family in Olympia. So I know there are at least a FEW ATV's in the Puget Sound area.
I agree with the other respondent... the LTA/LTZ quads are the perfect size for young children and they instill a lot of confidence in both the kids and their parents. Your problem is the powerplant (and the CDI that controls it).
This may sound radical, but have you considered selling the LTZ and buying a used LTA instead? That would give you the same machine size and everything, but move back to the reliable and more-than-powerful-enough two stroke engine that can be tweaked and tuned to your heart's (and your child's) content. LTA's come on the market all the time. We bought our 2002 last year for $1000.
Just a thought.
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2006 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI (hers) 2004 Polaris Sportsman 700 (mine) 2002 Suzuki Quadmaster 50 (son's)
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05/22/2007 09:43 AM
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hally
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Waatv
Im from western australia (you heard of the crocodile hunter) that australia.
You may have given me another idea in regards to the lta 50. I might try and find one of them little buggers.
I can't believe there isn't bugger all race mod parts for the ltz 50.I think it was procom who told me that they wouldn't even start the development stage of a cdi unless they had 20 requests.Something like that.
cheers cobber
Hally
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05/22/2007 09:45 AM
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hally
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photos would be good if you had time cobber
hally
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05/23/2007 05:33 AM
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Hibrass
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Hally,
I'll try to get some pics in the next day or so... Right now I'm chasing some potentially goods new for the Z50 owners. It looks like the CDI from a Z90 Suzuki will work and it will raise the REV limiter. I have some more calls to make and get my hands on one to test...
More Soon!
Ed "Hibrass" Harley
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05/23/2007 06:00 AM
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nzbratt
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I've got the same problem, my 4 yr old rides an lt50 2-stroke goverened by the throttle and my 5 yr old rides the new ltz50 with spacer removed, we have a hill track and the 4 stroke won't keep up it seems like the clutch holds it back on hills as well as the cdi limiter ? I have removed the spark arrester and drilled the baffles which made some improvement but still looking for more. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated, Cheers.
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05/23/2007 08:58 AM
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hally
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Thats sound fantastic, I am waiting mate.
Hally
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05/23/2007 09:01 AM
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hally
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sounds like hybrass is onto it
hally
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05/23/2007 04:00 PM
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WAATV
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Originally posted by: hally
Im from western australia (you heard of the crocodile hunter) that australia.
Cheers, mate! I just spent five weeks on holiday in NZ and Australia. Hobart, Port Douglas, and Sydney this time around. All it did was whet my appetite. And having an ATV there would be a dream.
You may have given me another idea in regards to the lta 50. I might try and find one of them little buggers.
I strongly recommend it. My son couldn't be happier. He lives for the weekends out at our lake property, which is where his machine lives except when we have snow.
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05/25/2007 06:53 AM
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hally
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waatv
good place here in aussy land
catch cobber
hally
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06/03/2007 07:59 AM
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hally
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hibrass
how you going with that cdi box mod. lt80 cdi may fit ltz50
hally
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06/03/2007 09:24 AM
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Hibrass
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Update...
:-) I have no additional info as of yet... I'm stuck waiting for my local dealer to get me a Z90 CDI and some parts for my wife's KQ that got rolled last weekend.. I might have something in about 2 weeks, I Hope....
Oh and a CDI box from a 2 stroke motor won't work on a 4 stroke... ;-(
Hibrass
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