I will get some pics up soon, I do not have my own digital camera so I have to barrow the one from work. The only one is on my page where I am jumping it. Good jump, bad pic. My Friend thought there was a delay with the camera so he got me going up not on top of the arc. Oh well I will get more of those too! I am glad this thread got started as there have not been that many quadsport topics in the past. Very hit or mis. Have you heard of Vince's? It is a great site for Quad sport parts.

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

SaaZooKee,I cut the extra stock off a damaged quadsport swingarm. Theres a good 4" piece between the shock mt. and pivot tube. I took it to a local welding shop and they cut the swingarm halfway between the carrier mounts and shock mount. The extra length was welded in with added braceing on the inside face. The braces are the rectangaled shapes in the pics.
There is no problems with chain alignment.
The angle of the swingarm is decreased so chain strech is minimized. ( 96 link )
And the front end stays planted much better with no loss of traction.
You will need a new rear shock unless yours is already aftermarket and can be revalved/resprung. The shock is stock length. The swingarm was extended behind the shock mt.


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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Edited: 01/14/2006 at 07:22 AM by BigMc

Ugly88, I have checked out the Vince's web site in the past. I had went as far as requesting pricing on parts.
They would not do credit card orders. That to me was an inconvience and I never traded with them.
I've not tried them latley though.
I also have enjoyed the input to this thread. Any info or experiences about these machines are welcome.

Thanks Ugly88

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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Edited: 01/14/2006 at 07:33 AM by BigMc

I will be putting new lights on the QS this week so that I can ride at night this weekend out at our cabin and land. I think I will just get som e of the $15-$20 driving lights from Wally World? Any suggestions? i was going to wire them for one to come on for low and both to come on for high beam. I was going to mount them where the stock crappy light was.

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

Ugly88, be careful with the lights. The QS lighting coil is only good for about 45 watts.The stock light uses a duel element bulb. One for low one for high. They both cannot operate at the same time. If you dont watch it you will burn out the stock lighting coil.
If you happen to have a coil rewoud to handle the load, or have installed a battery, then just disregard the caution.
And good luck with the lights.

keepemalive

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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Edited: 01/16/2006 at 08:45 PM by BigMc

Hey BigMC..do you know anybody that does lighting coil rewinds on the lt230?

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1987 Suzuki LT230E
1987 Suzuki LT230S SOLD
2000 Husaberg Enforcer 4 SOLD
2003 Husaberg FE400E SOLD

Quadsport Pix

Husaberg Pix

THanks for the heads up! If my lights stay below 45watts I should be ok then? and only have one on at a time?

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

UGLY88, if you use 1 light at a time, aint that like 2 of the same thing? LOL
You could point one higher than the other. That would effectivley give you a high and a low beam. Do you think you can find 2 sets that look alike but one is a flood? Use one spot and one flood. That would be interesting to know.
If it works you could sale the spare set to one of the other members and reap the benefits. If it dosnt, then you would have a good experience to write about. At the very least you would the MAN when it comes to members asking how to replace the lighting coil on their LT230S. jk


AtomicPunk, no i dont know of any one that rewinds the lighting coil. I dont even run the light on mine. I cant do any night riding, but as of yet that has not been an issue. But ( theres always one of those) the stator off of the shaft drive units or even the 230E may be a different story. In the case of the shaft drive 230, they were built for a more utilititarian purpose, it might work. But we all know the story of mights dont we?
I have not done any research on this subject. But maybe someone else has. Got any ideas? I will do a "stare and compare" at some fiche images to see what i can come up with.






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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Edited: 01/17/2006 at 07:19 PM by BigMc

You might want to check with Baja Designs. I believe they rewind stators for the Off Road to Dual Sport Market. Just google them and you should be able to get ahold of them.

Joe

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2004 KFX400, 2004 Polaris Sportsman 500 HO

So is the 45 watt max lut put at idle or at Wide Open Throttle? I was thinking of one flood for low beam and one driving light for high high beam. I am looking for 35-40 watt lights right now and would like one flood and one driving. I have yet to find them for a reasonable price.

Trail Tech Rewinds stators as well. I do not think I want to spend the money to rewind the stator and or switch to a DC system as that money could get me a big bore kit.

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

UGLY88, The max wattage rateing is total draw off the coil at trail speeds. When your light is most bright. I looked through my book last night and found that the head light is a 45/45 or 45 watt high and 45 watt low beams. The tail light is rated at 5 watts. That would be at 50 watts with at least a small margin for error. I would be confident to say that a coil in good shape is under rated by at least 5 watts.
So to be realistic, the coil is capible of a 50 to 55 watt load at trail speeds. You just have to take in account the rear light when buying headlights.
Oh and in case your wondering, Yes the new lights will dim and brighten with engine rpm as well.....Sorry

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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Thanks for the research! I will have to ride this weekend with the stock light. I am going to see how the little quad does out at our land with the steep hills. I just ordered new front tires, GBC ground busters for $28 ea., so next week I will be putting them on as well as figureing out the lights.

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

This thread has not went as far as I hoped. I thought there would be more people out there that would like to share there story.
If you have been reading and not replying, for what ever reason, now is your chance.
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Keep the shinney side up.

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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

BigMc, I have a new picture up that shows the LT. It did better in the snow than I thought, even with the sub par rear tires on it. What is everybody running for sprockets with what tires? I have 22's on the rear and it still seems like a granny gear in first! Anybody rebuild or replace there carb? If so, what did you do and where did you get the parts? Also on the rear shock anybody replace or rebuild with a new spring? Looking for info on improving the carb, intake and rear spring. Thanks in advance.

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

UGLY88
I HAVE A NEW DESK TOP BACK GROUND.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great pic. Where I live, I can count the number of times I have seen that much snow ( in my 35 years) on one hand.
Engine and intake mods is a subject near and dear to my heart.
After a lot of research, I found a kit from White Brothers ( part # 15-355TT ) $179.00 in May of 2003. The kit included a 28mm carb, throttle cable and twist throttle. It also included an array of jets for final tuning. It was suggested that the kit would work best with after market piston, free flow filter, and cam.
After the K&N filter, Wiseco +2mm @ 10.25/1 comp. pisto and a Web Cams stage 2 cam, the engine came to life. It can lift the front wheels in the first 3 gears. And thats with the +4 swingarm.
And since were on the subject of swingarms......Works suspension has a very good shock available for the 230, either in stock or extended versions. They have a web site for ordering but dont bother, the best thing to do is find a dealer and have them order it for you. Just fill out the form on the Works web site, print it out and take it to your dealer. Be shure to tell them ( on the form ) if your swingarm/A-arms are stock or + over. Takes about two weeks and your set up. My machine runs a full set of Works shocks. There the best investment I have made on the 230.

Great question Ugly ( do you mind if I call you Ugly )

Later.

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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

No I do not mind, there is a long story behind that name. Are you running wider A-arms as well? How does that Carb kit from White Bros compare to the high flow carb from Vince's? Did you have a local machine shop bore your cylender or did you send it out? I think the motor has been worked on before so I would have to tear it downa nd measure the currant bore before ordering a piston. I am not sure i will be in a position to do that before summer so maybe this coming fall/winter. I am interested in a better carb set up though and if it comes with a new throttle and jets that is not a bad deal I will have to look into it. Do yo have any specs on the stock spring or even the Work's spring? My wife works for a spring manufacturer that makes some springs for Polaris, AC, along with some after market companies so I would like cross reference if I could it might be a simple solution for me?

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

No I do not mind, there is a long story behind that name. Are you running wider A-arms as well? How does that Carb kit from White Bros compare to the high flow carb from Vince's? Did you have a local machine shop bore your cylender or did you send it out? I think the motor has been worked on before so I would have to tear it downa nd measure the currant bore before ordering a piston. I am not sure i will be in a position to do that before summer so maybe this coming fall/winter. I am interested in a better carb set up though and if it comes with a new throttle and jets that is not a bad deal I will have to look into it. Do yo have any specs on the stock spring or even the Work's spring? My wife works for a spring manufacturer that makes some springs for Polaris, AC, along with some after market companies so I would like cross reference if I could it might be a simple solution for me?

Ugly88
A-arms. No I dont run wider A-arms. I use Dura Blue 1.5" wheel spacers. The front wheel bolt pattern is the same as the quadsracer. The front wheels are from ITP and are offset 1 inch wider than stock. Together they give me a total of +5" in the front. When I ordered my shocks I included this in the order so it could be considered when calculating spring rates and dampening. It does come a price though. It FULLY exposes the front calipers to the cruel truth of trail riding, i.e. rocks and sticks and trees and..........well you see what I mean.
The rear wheels are Douglas black lable and are offset 3". For + 6 in the rear.
As far as specs go on the shock springs, man dont get to lying, I just supplied the cash and specs and they supplied the product.
On the bore issue, If it were me, I would buy a good used cylinder off ebay and have it bored to your new piston. When it comes time for rebuild, a top end gasket set and an long afternoon and your done.
Of course, you need to consider the fact that you may find something else in there also.
I have a spare cylinder for mine and am considering sending it to madmanengineering to get a big bore kit.
My carb kit came with a new throttle cable for the stock thumber and 2 or 3 sets of jets for calibration. It also included very detailed instructions on the install. The twist throttle version included all the above and a new twister as well.
Vince's free flow carb is a larger ( 27 or 28mm ) round slide. The reason I went with the WB kit is that it is a 28mm flat slide carb. The flat slides have a better rep. for flowing more air due to their square plenium design.
If the WB kit is still availible, in my opinion, its the way to go. But you can still buy the carb and add the throttle of your chose. FYI, if I remember correctly, it seems like jlatvproducts has a clearence on ther 28mm carbs. It may be worth checking out. I think I seen it on the Warehouse Clearence short cut on their home page. And of course there is the DG kit as well. It is a round slide as well.
Did you get that PM i sent you?

My keyboard tired.



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Dont trash it, thrash it ........and keep-em-alive......BigMc

Yeah I just got the message and replied to you. I will look at the WB sebsite when i tiem tomorrow and check out the DG site. I like the idea of getting a used Cylender to have done before tear down. You must have baeen at this a while? Have you compared MadMann to FST? Is one better than the other?

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(1) 04 Yamaha YFZ 450
GYTR Bumper, Nerfs, Exhaust
PRM Grab Bar
2) 87 LT-230
K&N filter
DG Cone Exhaust
(3) 05 AC 500 LE Auto (Work Machine Co-owned w/ my Father)
Rack Extenders
Front Box
27" ITP 589's

SOLD:
(1) 99 Blue Wolverine with extras

BigMC,

I have a rebuild story for ya but with a 15 month old and a newborn, I ain't got much time for the internet. Maybe this weekend.

I didn't do that much to it and I still have alot of fun on the 230 Quadsport.

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Wrench and Ride, Wrench and Ride.......