Hey Colorado you guys ever figure out what the 171fmm is patterned after?

Im shipping my ENGINE (yes the whole thing) back to Tim at vbike. Tim swears he's never had a problem with the 250s.
That shift problem is a real puzzler.

Looks like I'm sticking with the 250D.
Got a video if anyone is interested.

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

Well there was an engine called a CG250 that the 171fmm engine was cloned after, I believe was made by Honda, not 100% on that on though. The TaoTao 250 engine might be made buy Zongshen per Slydog. My engine in my V4S is made by Lifan.

Ya know, your engine is the first one I have heard of with that problem. The shipping is a bummer but Vbikes web site does say that shipping on warranty parts is at the cost of the buyer I agree, that sucks.

Hey Wildwoody, where is a link to the video?, would love to check it out.

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

Powersportsmax says its based of the Yamaha engine design....it's on the net so it has to be right.........

Tim at vbike says the everything he sells are Lifan's. I don't know if he meant Lifan clones or actual Lifan clones of Honda. And sales guys never lie.

yeah shipping a part back is one thing.....a whole engine though... hmmm sigh.

Let you know how it goes.

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

The bolts on my V4S engine have the LLL Lifan trademark on them. Here's one of the engine bolts I took a picture of.



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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

ahhh nope nothing like that on mine. Saw that in your earlier posts. helava good thread going here.

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

Our 150 ATV dosn't have any tradmark signs of Lifan, not sure if Lifan brands everything they make or not.

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

i would like to know the cost of shipping that, as thats worst cost you could expect to pay for return shipping.
What year is yours wildwoody??? mines a 08 and it has the LLL bolts

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

well here's the thing.....Tim suggested just shipping via USPS. He says its about $40. Apparently they do it all the time.

I'm sure some disgruntled postal person would apprieciate that little gem. LOL

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

Edited: 05/06/2008 at 08:47 PM by Wildwoody

I guess all things considered thats not to bad of a price. I bet that postal worker would like to charge more after pulling a muscle lifting it.

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

to be honest i am sure they would rather take a iphone or a Wii or a flat screen tv......not a use 250 chineese engine lol

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

by the way you never said what year it is?

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

Sorry its 2007 December vintage on the tag.

Latest update. I've contacted TaoTao directly and VBike again.
Before forewarned VBike will tell you they will do anything should there be any problems when you buy something from them but they won't do anything reasonable after you've bought it.
Basic fraud and misrepresentation if you ask me.
TaoTao had me speak with a woman who spoke less than a lick of the queens english and said she'd tell me exactly how to take the engine apart to fix it. Stay tuned for that adventure.
It seem to me I bought an ATV to ride not repair.
Are there any attorneys in Dallas that hang out here?

If anyone has the private email or phone number to the TaoTao USA president please forward that on.

Keep you all posted!!!

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

oooooh the plot thickens

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

for future reference
Matao (Terry) Cao
Owner of TaoTao US

This really sucks that I have to resort to guerilla information tactics

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

Edited: 05/07/2008 at 08:42 PM by Wildwoody

Wildwoody are you not going to send the engine back then?

Thats funny split

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

I haven't decided wether I'm going to break the law and send hazardous materials through the US Postal Service yet. The oil would have to be more than just drained out of it. I'm trying to squeeze the dealer and the manufacture/importer first.
Hell I'm really interested to see what kinda of technical help I can get on tearing an engine apart over the phone. I should video that shouldn't I?

Alrighty inquiring minds want to know.

here's the video.
This is a 20mb quicktime files so you've been forewarned. Quicktime has the crappy copy protection so I can't convert video with the audio.

The video

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Best Regards

Wildwoody

Edited: 05/07/2008 at 09:23 PM by Wildwoody

hhhhm thats a perplexing issue

its no linkage issue as 1st and reverse is engaging,time for th ethinking hats to go on

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

Hey split is this the weekend for jumping the V4S again? Hope to see some awsome pics or video.

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

sry my sister-in-law is flying in from dallas on saturday to surprise my mother-in-law on mothers day...yes guys its this sunday !!!!!!!....and i have to drive to detroit metro to collect her,so obviously this sunday is out also...unless i can get 2 hours in before we need to be there,i'll see what i can pull off but looks unlikely but i will try my hardest as i havent started it in 2 weeks so i do feel like i have missed it some what.

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vbike 250
gsxr k4
SVS650
aprillia rs 250
DT125R

I understand, can't neglect our moms.

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Vbike 250 V4S (Red, black trim)
TaoTao ATA-150B Utility (Red)

you better know what you are doing whin you split the engine case every thange comes out and you can crack the case

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