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Old 07-27-2001, 04:44 PM
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The atv dealers and car parts stores have no idea how to get this and don't stock it? It must be replaced at 10 hours. What have you guys done? Thanks.
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I did a search and found that the larger TORO mowers use it, it's actually hydrolic oil it appears. My local TORO dealer did not have it in stock but maybe yours will.

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Thanks.
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I had my 10hr service done last week and the dealer had it in stock for service only...They said it would be available to purchase later. It only cost $62 for the complete first service!
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Have your dealer go to any major lubrication supplier that supplies oil change outfits like grease monkey and the like.I check on it you can or he can get it in 5 gallon cans Valvoline and titan makes that equal to 424 fluid. My local mobile oil suppier had all of them.
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I took a peek at the Mobil website. Mobilfluid 424 sounds a lot like ATF, and is used primarily in farm tractors. Ford/New Holland, Massey Ferguson, etc. If this is the lube you're looking for, maybe you should be talking to dealers who sell tractors.
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MobilfluidŽ LT, 424

Product Description

Mobilfluid LT and 424 are next-generation standards in multipurpose, extreme-pressure, tractor transmission/ hydraulic fluid technology. They utilize the latest additive technology and high-quality solvent-refined base stocks to achieve outstanding improvements in wet brake and PTO chatter control, enhanced shear stability in field service, and optimized low-temperature performance. They also offer enhanced extreme-pressure wear protection, and stronger oxidation resistance and thermal stability under the most severe operating conditions. They resist foaming, ensure excellent protection against corrosion and rust, prevent sludge and varnish deposits, and have outstanding seal compatibility.

Mobilfluid 424 is approved against specifications:
John Deere J20C
Ford New Holland M2C134D (FNH201)
Massey Ferguson M1135, M1141
White New Idea Q-1802, Q-1826
Allison C-4 and Volvo BM
Denison HF-0, HF-1, HF-2
Sauer Sundstrand
AGCO Clark Sundstrand ZFTE-ML06
Volvo AWB101

Mobilfluid LT and 424 exceed performance requirements of:
Case International J/C 145/MS 1210, J/C 185/MS 1204, MS 1205, MS 1206, MS 1207, B6
Deutz-Allis 821XL
Komatsu Dresser B-06-0001, B-06-0002
Caterpillar TO-2 Powershift - L-20
DexronŽ and Type A, Suffix A (Tractor)
Sundstrand Hydrostatic
Vickers 35VQ25A Pump
Sundstrand 22 Axial Piston Pump
Plessey-Sundstrand Gear Pump
Cincinnati Milacron P-68, P-69, P-70
Copper corrosion (ASTM D 130), 1A Rating

Mobilfluid LT and 424 exceed performance recommendations of Clark, KH Deutz, Ebru, Fendt, Fiat-Hesston, Hurlimann, International Hough, IMT, Lamborghini, Link Belt, Renk, Schluter, Steyr Daimler Puch, Steiger, Universal, Ursus, Valmet, and Zetor.

Applications

Mobilfluid LT and 424 are recommended for top-up and refill of transmissions, differentials, final drives, hydraulics, and power steering systems, as well as wet brakes, PTOs, and hydrostatic drives in farm, contractor, and industrial tractors recommending
Applications (Cont'd)

the above specifications. Mobilfluid LT and 424 may be used as replacements for engine oils up to SAE 10W-30 for hydraulic and transmission systems, but NOT in engine crankcases. They are suitable as Type A (Suffix A), Dexron and Type F fluids, but NOT in passenger car automatic transmissions. Mobilfluid 424 may be used as a GL- 4 or SAE 80 gear lubricant in all gear applications EXCEPT hypoid differentials and gearing.

User Benefits
Considerable improvement in wet brake and PTO chatter control
Enhanced shear stability in field service
Outstanding low-temperature performance
Optimized wear protection of gears, pumps, and hydraulic valves
Improved thermal stability for long service life in severe applications
Wide application range for reduced inventories and simplified fleet lubrication
Balanced friction for extended clutch life
Good water tolerance and protection from rust and corrosion
Freedom from sludge and deposits
Good filterability for optimum hydraulic operation
Reduced maintenance
Greatly extended equipment life

Typical Characteristics

Physical characteristics are listed in the table. They are intended as guides to industry and are not manufacturing specifications; actual values may vary slightly.

LT MOBILFLUID 424
Product Number 56542-4 52233-4
SAE Grade 10W-20 10W-30
Gravity, API 30.0 28.6
Density, lb/gal, 60°F 7.287 7.35
Flash Point, °C (°F) 194 (381) 228 (442)
Pour Point, °C (°F) -48 (-54) -43 (-46)
Viscosity
Brookfield, cP
cSt at 40°C
cSt at 100°C 18000 (-40°C)
34.0
7.2 55,000 (-35°C)
55
9.3
Viscosity Index 180 152
Color, ASTM D 1500 3.0 3.0

Health & Safety

Based on available toxicological information, it has been determined that these products pose no significant health risk when used and handled properly. Information on use and handling, as well as health and safety information, can be found in the Material Safety Data Sheets which can be obtained from your local distributor; via the Internet on http://www.mobil.com; or by calling 1-800-662-4525 and selecting prompt 2.

For additional technical information or to identify the nearest U.S. Mobil supply source, call 1-800-662-4525.

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3225 Gallows Road, Fairfax, Virgina 22037-0001 MobilfluidŽ LT, 424
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Update,
The kawi part # is atv-0103 and it's on back order according to a dealer I called. The rest of the dealers I called have no idea. It's a start. I called toro and john deer dealers here and no luck.

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I posted this about the rear diff oil in the highlifter forum earlier:

The oil is john deer brand, Hy-Gard Low Visocosity, #TY22000. It was about $7 for a gallon, or around $2 for a quart. The specs, and applications matched up in the cross-ref guide. It says on the gallon- for use in wet brakes and final drives.
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I was going to post the same ? i went to a local shop that is a kawi dealer and everyone said never heard of it, use gear oil. WHAT??? the manual says to use mobil 424 and it dosent take a rocket science to figure out that the manufactures of my kawi want it in there its probably not a bad idea ???Finaly i talk to the service manager which didnt know that it was to be done at the first 10 hour break in service .I bought my bike out of town due to the clueless dealer in my town ,when i called the dealer who i bought it from and he said that he has been unable to stock this product but kawi sent him just enogh to service a picticular machine he had for service,also the same story for the local service manager.

Well the lesson learned her i pated my self on the back for not taking my kawi to the dealer for service i bet if the people who took there prairie in for service didnt even get their rear final drive fluid changed.
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