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Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog
The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.

Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
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One of the dumbest ideas around is to ruin the sweet little Rancher with a set of huge tires!

If one needs huge tires to feed their ego or whatever....start with a bigger machine.....
My thoughts exactly, I see people spend loads of money trying to get enough power out of 400 or so engine to compete with big bores. With all the money most people spend trying to boost their engine power they could've just gotten a big bore all along.
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The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.

Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
The Rancher is more of a trail machine than a workhorse like a Foreman or Rubicon. If it were designed for grunt work, Honda would have put a low gear on the auto Ranchers. The Ranchers are actually really sporty machines except for their weight like ReconRanger said.
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Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog, put a manual 420 in its low 1st gear and it should turns any tires or snap the axles tying. My manual with low range 350 Big bear would.

Honda's Auto trannies rely on fluids pressure and just can not be as efficient as the manuals to get power to the wheels in high load conditions.

Case in point, a 500 Foreman can pull harder then a 680 Rincon auto. The 500 Rubicon is the only auto that has a "Low range" option which should be on all Automatics.

I agree. I would never go larger than 25's on anything smaller than a 500
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I don't mud bog at all I just wanted the 26's for the extra clearence and all I am trying to find out is if there may be something wrong with it. If this is all it will do and nothing is wrong with it then so be it I will be fine. And yes it is fast
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If a 420cc cant turn 26" wheels then there is some thing wrong.
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my rubicon has 27 in xtrs and i barely feel a power difference, except off the line alittle bit
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If a 420cc cant turn 26" wheels then there is some thing wrong.
thats what i was thinking
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The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.

Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Totally agree. I just picked mine up a few days ago and it likes to run and be thrown around. Great handling, nice suspension, good ergonomics. The motor pulls me(250 lbs) around just fine although the "powerband" is definitely between 20mph and 40mph. Its a good motor, without question.

And, yeah, stop trying to put 33 inch swampzillas on Ranchers.... geesh!
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My old 1989 Yamaha 350 (348cc for real) Big Bear came with 25" stock and would churn through any thick mud swamp there is and a 2008 420cc Rancher is being asked to much to turn 26" tires?

I have seen a 96 Foreman 400 (395cc) turn 27" Vampires through some ugly stuff.

Here is a 5 speed 420 with 28" Mudzillas

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