Should I buy a Cat??

[buckaroo50]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mudblaster

not true i had lot of trouble with my cat and i have two other friends with 650 cats and thay had the same problems.

after 1500 miles i had to replace all the front end bushings because thay were shot.3 broken rear axels and 1 fron diff.

i will admit i had 28" gators on my cat but i stll was in the shop more then out of the shop.

if you do get a cat dont go any bigger then 26" tires or you will ware out parts alot faster then with the smaller tires.

i have 1 friend who has never had a problem with his 400 cat but he has had stock tires on his since day 1.

me and my other 2 buddys have had lots of problems with the bigger tires.

we ride alot of mountain trails out here in BC Canada and theres no room for a quad that likes to be upside down as much as being on all 4 wheels.

cats have the best GC smooth ride and a good diff lock but they lack in handling and stabillaty and thats a must where i come from.</end quote></div>

I guess you said it all when you said that you didn't have stock size tires on. The machine didn't break you broke it. If it were designed for 28" tires then they would come from the factory that way. My AC doesn't have a sway bar and is far more stable than most other brands. It is all in the setting up of the suspension and tires. Check my pictures and check out the 'off-camber' and tell me most other machines would not have rolled on to the side (and I was loaded very heavily on the top side). If you also had read the latest reports you would see that AC can handle the highest degree of off-camber without rolling, more so than any machine bar none, IRS or SRA.
Sounds like you just want to bash AC because you didn't have yours setup correctly and don't know how to ride it. And you want to blame AC for breaking axles that had 28" tires on it. What did you expect anyway? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. These are ATV's not tanks. Take them out of their design or element and something is going to give.

[Remotruker]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Uncle

I think the 700 H1 is not on the TRV model yet, just on the single atv. I had the same thought, but nothing in the owners manual says H1 so I am thinking that it is still the suzuki engine. Does anyone know if they are putting the new H1 engine in the 08 700 EFI TRV yet?</end quote></div>

It is definitely the Suzuki Engine for '08 TRV.

[Remotruker]

Buck

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>If you also had read the latest reports you would see that AC can handle the highest degree of off-camber without rolling, more so than any machine bar none, IRS or SRA.
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So, where is this report? I'd like to read it. Or is this just opinion?

[buckaroo50]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Remotruker

Buck



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>If you also had read the latest reports you would see that AC can handle the highest degree of off-camber without rolling, more so than any machine bar none, IRS or SRA.

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So, where is this report? I'd like to read it. Or is this just opinion?</end quote></div>

The info was on Dirt Trax TV, The post was in 'How to make the AC handle better - post was by Fossil on 2-15-2007.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Fossil

Buckaroo,

Thanks for the tire pressure tips. I settled on 7.5 lbs for the fronts and 5 for the rears and it made a big diference on cornering.



I saw on Dirt Trax TV last weekend that they did a static roll over test (tipped the ATVs on a platform) testing a Canam , a Polaris, a Yamaha and an AC. Surprisingly the AC tipped at the highest angle both loaded and unloaded.</end quote></div>

[mudblaster]

sorry to get you upset but im not the only one that has had this happen to.
i admit the big tires dident help with the parts braking but how come my kawi hasent broke it has had 28" mudzillas on it for the last 5000 miles.and there heaver then the gators.and also i can probly ride circles around you and most other people so dont tell me i dont know how to ride i have bin riding dirt bikes and quads my whole life so if i havent got it figured out by now then theres somthing wrong.
also you say there not a tank.
i agree but there also not a china doll. there made to ride and have fun on not just cruise the back roads.thats boring.
also im sure theres lots of people out there that ride alot harder then i do.
you just dont have them on here saying so.
all im saying is if you ride hard and lots you might want to look at somthing else.
the first poster said he was thinking about the grizlly well in my opinion the grizz is a better quad then the cat will ever be and he would be wise to get it over the cat.
and if a person cant come on here and say the bad things about the cats as well as the good then whats the point of having a discussion board.
no need to get upset cause i dis cats. for my kind of riding the cats just dont cut it.
and that gos for my 2 other buddys that have had cats that i ride with also.

[JohnO]

P700 has a live axle on the back, doesn't it? They're inherently stronger, but GC definitely suffers. One has to keep in mind that the Cats were built to be rough ground machines, to go where most people can't. That's the reason they don't have sway bars, to let the wheels articulate more. Hardpack handling isn't as good, but they'll crawl over things that would leave a live axle machine stuck. I know - got tired of sticking my old Big Bear on my rough as a cob farm. Haven't stuck the Cat in five years of riding. Haven't broken an axle either, and I haul 600+pound trailer loads of firewood every weekend, across hills and rocky creekbeds. Only failure I've had in all that time is a fouled spark plug.

It's whatever the individual wants. I wanted a quad that wouldn't break down, and wouldn't get stuck on rough terrain. That's what I got.

[Ibrokeit]

u hit it on the head buck! i broke axle after axle on my cat WITH 28" mudzillas !!! never with stock tires. the creek behind my house is a great place to have some fun, and at the end of one hole is a rough exit. to get up and out of it on my brute i have to stand on one side with both feet, lean off, and hope for the best, but on my daughters cat, i just sit up a lil and drive right out. the cat is a tank. when friends are over, they all either want to ride the king or cat!