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Posted by: dbeck
I edited the post to show the pictures in-line, but only 1 photo worked. I tried going to the urls directly, and still only 1 photo worked. So there was something wrong with the urls.
Posted by: quadbart
Originally posted by: cataway
seen one at SL Saturday , it was fast but not the fastest thing there , i think the guy was afraid of it.
Afraid of it? Your joking right?
It was not the fastest thing there? Are you kidding me? (sarcasm)
It was clocked at just under 120 running across the flats in 3rd gear while we were adjusting the mapping on it and setting up the suspension.
It was the first time out on the sand. He was TUNING IT not racing it. LOL
He never lined up with anyone all weekend long except me. LOL
Posted by: cluby
Man you did a really nice job on that, I am sure it's a blast to ride. I am hopen some day to but a 400ex with a cbr 600, seems a little weak but no dunes here to ride lol
Posted by: DStroyer
LOL, I am scared of it, wouldnt you be!! LOL
I didnt even realize this section existed!!!
This is supersonics post, and I dont want to hog the post, but I have two photos from the Silver Lake trip. The first is a featherd throttle start, and the second is when I could crack the throttle open in second gear. Supers bike runs alot more hp than I was running in these photos. Take a look at the 2nd photo, specifically at the tires, and see if you see something funny about the way they FLOAT, LOL on the sand at WOT. haha Thats alot of realestate to move.
Anyway, this is Supers topic, and a hardy NICE Job, hats off to him!!
http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/gixxergary/
Gary
Posted by: DStroyer
The axle is a solid one, you just see the centers in the ends. After attempting a race at the West Michigan Sand dragway the other day on a very sticky track, I truely believe the aluminum axle needs to GO. It didnt break or bend, but when I had the power turned way up, I felt alot of vibration out of the back , and I never made a full pass down the track. In fact, I burnt up a clutch trying a second gear start with 17/56 gears. I now have heavy springs and the lockup clutch. The crazy thing is, that machine would do a 3rd gear launch with those gears. I just couldnt hold onto the bike. I have a 6 foot wheelie bar out back, and lowered to the ground. It really needs to have a custom seat made with a lower back support to keep the ars in place when launching.
Im going to be renting a sand track out in my area within the next month, just to get the seat time on a track I need. I have yet to make a full pass down a 300 foot strip with it. I need to turn the power down as low as it will go, and get used to that power at WOT. Then I can slowly increase the boost to a point I can handle.. Im not ashamed to say, its capable of way more power than I can hold onto.
Oh, about the axle, I will be replacing the aluminum shaft with a gun drilled 17-4 stainless prehard shaft. A ton heavier than the aluminum, but I could add an extra 150 lbs of rotating mass back there, and the machine would just ask for more.
Gary
Posted by: DStroyer
When the clutch went, I replaced the springs with all 6 heavy ones. Way, and I mean Way to heavy for just cruising around. Also, with all 6 heavy springs, the clutch was either on or off, with absolutely no feathering available!! I hated it. With the centrifugal lockup from MRE, I am using 3 oems and 3 heavy springs. I replaced the 2 piece slipper clutch mechanism with a single from APE. Not sure what thats going to do for me, but they recommended it, and Im not about to find the problem on my own while riding. I am however, having a huge problem with stretching chains. At the West Michigan Sand Dragway, I litterally never got a full pass down the strip, but managed to have to adjust the chain twice in that time. Its an EK ZZZ chain also. Im not sure where to go from there, other than just keeping a close eye on the chain all the time. By the way, the motor is placed so the chain doesnt stretch or shorten thru its travel. I dont want to add any more inches to the swingarm, I have enough chain out there as it is, and I can run without guides now. I do have a custom guide designed in autocad that I used on past bikes. If you have access to a CNC, I can give you the cad file.
Gary
Posted by: DStroyer
I will check that out. Never thought of it that way. Ive heard of others having good luck with that chain also, and was curious as to why mine was doing this. I will be giving another go this weekend on the 7th, I will certainly try that.
Posted by: DStroyer
4th it was!! by the way, rolled the carrier the other way, and the problem stopped.
Posted by: tencubed
Only pic 1 comes up.
Posted by: CamoKVF700
That's pretty cool. You did a nice job. It must just scream.
Does it go this good? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBwF50o1tfA
Posted by: DeeDawg
NONE of the pics will come up for me. Are they the same pics you have in your photo page?
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Posted by: DeeDawg
Testing, testing.....
Posted by: DeeDawg
Still no pics for me, unless you put them in your photo gallery.
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Posted by: DeeDawg
Still no pics. Can you post them in your photo gallery?
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Posted by: cataway
seen one at SL Saturday , it was fast but not the fastest thing there , i think the guy was afraid of it.
Posted by: RaptorRandy27
I believe Supersonic went 95 up the hill at Sand Mt. this past weekend
His bike is even nicer up close, very well done and wicked fast.
Posted by: Yoshimura660
looks kind of slugish but i could be wrong that is one of the coolest atv i have seen in a long time and it may be the fastest
Posted by: supersonictoys
2003 ds650 Bombardier with an 07 Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc turbo charged fuel injected motor. well over 300 dune rideable horse power
Posted by: supersonictoys
weird, they all open right up for me
Posted by: supersonictoys
Dstroyer is right. if you arent scared of a turbo busa powered quad you will get hurt or killed . a stock DS makes what, 40hp maybe? if you can double that you have a dam fast bike. now try 40hp x 8 ?? you can be on your back instantly or rolling end over end at 100+ in the blink of an eye. the people who dont respect big power are the ones who end up in cold storage at the morgue. you kind of have to sneak up on a monsterbikes full potential . you have to get used to it slowly ,gradually getting the feel of it and all the time watching every part to make sure nothing is starting to fail. you cant just go out and start doing 9000rpm second gear take offs. which reminds me Dstroyer, when you do start realy hammering yoour bike at take off after a few passes slide one of your hubs off and make sure your axle isnt starting to twist. I was running a durablue quadracer 500 axle on a turbo bike I built years ago and twisted it and a stock axle off right where the hub ends. your aluminum axle is a jj&a it looks like? and it also looks gun drilled. I have a couple here that were solid 40mm but didnt have the balls to try one with 300 hp+. did you call them to see what they will take for horse power? real nice looking bike by the way
Posted by: supersonictoys
I wanted to go light weight on the axle too but have found in the past that they just dont like torque. I had a brand new in the box stock DS axle which weighs a ton but I have found them to be unbreakable and I like the width for side hilling and ridge riding and I dune ride mine alot. I also like the security of big steel suspension parts. I'm getting to old to trust my life to ultra light aluminum tie rods or tiny little drag a arms. I cant flip end over end anymore and just get up laughing. LOL stuff breaks and takes a long time to heal. dont get me wrong, I'm not going slower the older I get by any means , if anything I go faster every time I make a trip to the sand but I'm just more aware of whats most likely to break and choose heavy duty mostly now instead of feather weight. on your clutch, did you install all 6 springs or just 3? and are you still running the factory lock up or something aftermarket like an MRE? I have springs here but havent installed them or had a clutch issue yet as I have had to take off in 1st gear because of a wheelie issue but at 9000rpm in first it still launches so hard that about 2 out of three passes I'm having to get out of the throttle because its going over on me. I end up shifting second then third and then just about hit the rev limmiter in 3rd and I'm seeing mid 90's on the hill. I would rather a second gear take off end up in 4th and not have to rev it so high and still break 100. thats my goal anyway . after I make a few changes I am going to drop a tooth on the front sprocket and try it in second gear but first Im going to have to go a few more inches on the swingarm and lower the front end with some shorter shocks.
Posted by: supersonictoys
are you sure your bearing carrier isnt rotating under power? if yours is a 250r style carrier which I believe the jj&a stuff is , I have heard of this happening. you can generally stop this by rotating the carrier all the way around to the bottom side of its travel. its hard to explain but the carrier seems to only rotate in one dirrection. the same dirrection the axle rotates. if you have the cam lobe of the carrier on the top of the axle when the carrier rotates under power the chain will loosen. if you have the the carriers cam lobe on the bottom of the axle the chain will generally just keep itself tight . you will also gain a 1/2 inch of ground clearance in the back by doing this and the chain will adjust just the same. hopefully thats all it is. my experience with the ZZZ chains is that when they are brand new you will squish out some internal lube and have to adjust them maybe once or twice (small adjustment) then they flat stop needing attention. I set all my bikes up the same way, no change in chain tension through the whole range of swing arm travel . you can see how tight I keep my chain in the pics above. it looks extremely tight but I can still grab it and move it up or down about 2 inches . I just tighten it till there is no sag and call it good.
Posted by: supersonictoys
quad bart, must have been 4th gear . if he was doing 120 in third with the gearing he has he would be at like 15000 rpm's LOL. mine is at 10,000 at 95 in third with the same tires and gears I believe.
Posted by: mdebuck
thats bad man nice bike
Posted by: bombrider04
The other bike posted is dstroyer's bike which he just got done building also...Nice job ss and can't wait to see your next builds.
Posted by: RPMhog161
Man thats cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: gidaver
Ultra clean installation. Looks from here like it was a factory job. Real nice work. I would like to see the roost of sand that it looks like it could throw. LETS SEE SOME ACTION SHOTS!!
Posted by: oinkjackson
1 pic only for me also......but it looks sweet can i ride it? lol
Posted by: pimpsmurf
That thing is freaking sick man! Must be a blast.
-JNY
Posted by: Phalcor
Here you go. I fixed it. Hope the pics load up for everyone now.
Posted by: Phalcor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBwF50o1tfA
Now those are scary!!!!! LOL!!!
Posted by: Mr. Exceptional
That thing looks MEAN! How fast will it go?
Posted by: Mr. Exceptional
how fast it go
Posted by: 440exRulz
Very awesome DS. Love the busa motors in atv's.
Posted by: mudman420
wow that is a sick quad must be real fast howd u build it
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Posted by: twb1984250r
why are you selling your bombusa
Posted by: vrodpredator
i wanna do that to my predator but put a sc vrod in it or should i go the the turbo busa way?
