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or u could do like me and mxmike and come out in 3rd.
Posted by:
well said MrP
Posted by: stebob
If considering all quads, would a stock Zilla out drag a stock Dale?
Posted by: DennisC
My boy has a Honda 90 TRX with a pipe and a lubed up chain that I think could take you all! he-he-he-he
Posted by: MrP
The C-dale with out a doubt is the fastest quad made right now as far as 100-200 yard drag racing. Probably the fastest in top speed also. But if you are talking about all the quads ever made the LT500 would probably be the C-dale's best competition. But it would still be a close one with the C-dale beating the LT500 more times than not.
By the way a LT500 will kill a LT250 in every form of drag racing stock for stock.
Posted by: RaptorRider660R
I had both a canibal and a Quadzilla and I would say out of the hole the c-dale would be quicker mainly from poor traction on the 500 but by third gear I would think the Zilla would pass it! I also Raced my brothers DS650 when I had my canondale and I pulled right away out of the hole. They just seem to shoot off the line. My Raptor is pretty quick but I still think out of the hole the c-dale would jump out. Some done up big bores can gain and pass them but thye are awful tough to beat right out of the hole!
Nocando
Posted by: RaptorRider660R
No way a 250 out does a 500 on top! The 250 did 70-72 MPH the 500 Topped out at close to 80MPH Stock!
Nocando
Posted by: airtimehocutt
i haven't ever ridden many factory stock quads before so i cain't say for sure. is there any stock quad that will out run the cannondale? i'm not talking about top end speed which is usually about which is geared higher, i'm talking about a 150 to 200 yard drag race. maybe a ds650? or the new polaries?
Posted by: airtimehocutt
thanks for all the replies. if you remember a couple of months back, i raced my big bore 250r (and a friends sparks ported 350r) against knowsalot's cannible. it was a toss up on who got the better start. but one thing was for sure, if knowsalot got the better start, i could not gain on him at all (neither could the 350r). i can say my cannible with the motto mapping and full hmf exhaust is faster than knowsalot's cannible. i used to own a fully ported lt500 flat tracker. a monster machine and it was great for flat tracking but it sucked big time for motto cross action.
Posted by: airtimehocutt
not sure on his gearing although i believe it is stock. the difference is my 310r is ported for mx (bottom end power) where your duning 310r is ported for top end power. in drag racing a top end ported cylinder will easily beat a mx ported cylinder. also, we were racing for about 100 to 125 yards. my buddies 350r motor blew and he just sent it to eddie sanders for a resleeve and rebuild. how do you like his work?
Posted by: airtimehocutt
i'm running a 2001 lonestar no-link chassis. traction is very good on this bike. it was raining slightly and the rear tires on my r were worn. maybe when my cylinder needs resleeving i can get esr to port it for me. it has a mild clean up port on it now. my friend who sent his motor to esr had his quad there and he could not out run me with his 350 sparks motor. his bikes just breaks the tires loose bad. his bike has more power than mine (real noticable in 4th and 5th gears) but i can out run him because my bike hooks up better than his.
Posted by: briansgi
If you are talking about current production quads, nothing will beat the C'dales!!
Posted by: briansgi
Knowsalot's gearing must be different than stock than. Because my son's ESR310 250R, which has the 9 port and a race dome, easily pulls away from my Cannibal which has the moto map and the HMF silencer. My C'dale has stock gearing. This is drag racing in the dunes at Little Sahara, it's pretty even at the start but he kicks my ass as the gears go clicking by.
Maybe the ESR cylinders are alot better than most others!!
Posted by: briansgi
Actually the 9 port is ESR's middle port, his 7 is for MX, 9 for general riding and 11 for top end. ESR makes quality items, I have his 5 pipe and silencer as well, fit and finish is second to none.
If you guys were only racing 100 - 125 yards, your MX port should have done better than that, unless traction was an issue.
Posted by: Cannitor
briansgi is 100% correct
in short drag races there is not a stock quad that can touch the "C"
do second gear starts and say bye bye
Posted by: Cannitor
ive read quite a few post on here where people who own them say the c is quicker(not faster on the top end)in short drag races
Posted by: mxmike
86 ATC 250r ooooooppppsss,you said quad..................uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..............mine.........hahahahaha
Posted by: Talis
last time dirtwheels did a hi performance shootout with all the quads, the cdale was the quickest in a short race, but the banshee had the fastest top speed.
Posted by: CANNIBAL440
I've ridden a couple of stock Quadracer 500's, and as one would expect from a 499cc 2stroke the power is awesome. Like most 2strokes, however, the power comes on so hard that you spin more than you hook up (at least with the stock tires suzuki used to use). In the end I'd say it would be close, but could go either way.
Posted by: CANNIBAL440
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Originally posted by: quadracer31
The Zilla has no high-end speed... since it's a 5 speed. I've heard that in a drag the 250 6-speed quadracers will beat it in the end. The Zilla's will take the first 60-70 yards cuz they're 500's, but they 250's have better drag gearing.
Whoever told you that 6 speeds have more top end than 5 speeds seriously misled you. You have to look at the gear ratios of all the gears for both bikes. 6th gear is not significantly taller than 5th on the two suzuki's you mentioned, rather the ratios of the 6 speed are closer together to improve acceleration on the less powerful 250.The 500 had a much wider powerband so less shifting actually means better acceleration. This is one reason why todays 250cc motorcross bikes run 5 speeds instead of 6; with the broad power they put out less shifting equals better performance.
Posted by: quadracer31
The Zilla has no high-end speed... since it's a 5 speed. I've heard that in a drag the 250 6-speed quadracers will beat it in the end. The Zilla's will take the first 60-70 yards cuz they're 500's, but they 250's have better drag gearing.
