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Posted by: Mxracer98
Why are you going to lose your license? The funny sound your hearing when it idles is the gear driven cams. The gas tank is 3.2 gallons Im pretty sure.
Posted by: Mxracer98
New cannondales have a 6 month warranty. You dont have to pay taxes out of state Im pretty sure of that. 100 in your built honda you serious?
Posted by: Mxracer98
93 del sol sticking side by side with a z28img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif"border=0>. Redneck dont know whats you talking bout yall.
Posted by: Mxracer98
Well then if it isnt, I would like to Pi$$ all over corndog
Posted by: jfboy
Ok I am probably going to lose my license soon so I will sell my car and have a good amount to spend on a new atv.
I went and test rode a new speed to a dealer in GA and I liked it. It felt like my 400ex but more power. Sounds weird when it idles but I could get used to it.
The only thing I didnt like was that the salesman I went to was a dick and acted like he was gonna run out of quads. You guys know what I mean the typicall (after this one I wont get another one for 6 months so I'm aint selling below MSRP) that is pure BULL. Anyways, I dont mind picking one up anywhere on east coast and I was wonderingh who had the best price on the speed ??????
I heard taht somebody on the board was selling for a compoetitive price. I would like to know who ???? and what price thank you.
Oh and BTW: how much gas can you put in a dale ???? this must be the longest gas tank I have ever seen.
Posted by: jfboy
I was doing 100 in a 45 in my built honda.
My dealer told me that Cdales had no warranty ????? AND also I was wondering if I bought a Cdale out of state I dont have to pay taxes on it or sumting ????
Posted by: jfboy
That honda will top out at over 150 100 is the end of 3rd gear... I love that thing but it's soon gonna be over. Shure was fun sticking side b side with my friends 96 z28(gear, K&N, flowmaster) BR>
Anyway back to my cannondale I looked around and I saw thast KNOWSALOT works in a dealer or sumthing... Is he a reliable guy ????
Posted by: jfboy
Ricer: 92 civic coupe dx with altezzas, yellow and white honda stickers everywhere..
Me: 93 del sol si, 94 usdm b18c1, ITR clutch, skunk2 intake manifold, skunk2 cams stage 1, skunk2 dual valve springs, skunk2 titanium retainers, B&M FPR and gage, 92 p28 chipped ECU, Apexi vtec fuel controler, JDM 4-1 header with 2.5 in collector, 2.5 in carsound cat, 2.5in SS piping, removed AC, cx rack and pinion(non power), 94 integra gsr front suspension and brake upgrade.
Show mods: car repainted in silverstone metalic(s2000 color) Carbon fiber hood, 89 crx rims painted flat black.
I know ther is not a whole lot of real fast hondas but there are some out there...
Anyways this aint about my honda(well I do own a 400ex ) this is about the Cdale and trhis board is 95% red neck so If we start talking about hondas, the whole board is gonna go up in flames so lets stick to the subject...
Posted by: jfboy
Ok admit!! Sorry about the redneck comment that was uncalled for and stupid from my part.
And no I dont drink and drive... hell I dont even drink at all except for special occcasions..
And jus because I lost my license doesn't mean I'm a bad guy, I just have a problem with speed and like the fact on an atv you can as fast as you want without have speeding tickets.
And what's this stuff about "dont buy a Cdale" you dont deserve one.... Cmon guys the bigger the family the better.....
Ok back to the subject now: I know service is a little trcky on the Cdale But I'm willling nto do it myself I am good with engine and none of my atv's has ever hit a shop and the same for my car(except for paint)
I'm sorry we started on the wrong foot and I hope you guys can help me out...
Thanks!
Posted by: jfboy
I'm shooting for the speed but tell me more about a refurb cannibal... what shocks ????? is it used ??????
Also can I order a speed in red ????????????
Posted by: jfboy
If a dealer can shave 500$ off a cannibal, can they do the same thing to a SPEED ???
Posted by: jfboy
Can you special order a speed or something ???????
I am not too found of the silver on the cannondale and was curious to see if you could order one in red ??????? I would not care if it said cannibal instead of speed. I know probably this is a lot to ask but I was curious. Can you ask your dealer to remap when it's brand new ????????
Posted by: Alaska400EX
I'm not even a "redneck" and I find your statement annoying...lol. I am sure you will get lots of help from the members of this board once they read your post.... JIM
Posted by: Alaska400EX
Guy, good to have you on the fence with your choice.....I really doubt you would be sorry if you went with the Speed, the Suzuki seems to me to be another detuned atv that is begging for a bunch of mods to make it run like it "should". The Speed, on the other hand; is already pissing fire as soon as you uncrate it. (Sorry, that is the only redneck sounding phrase I could think of.).........JIM
Posted by: Alaska400EX
Dealers can sell the quads for whatever they want to. I went through a bunch of dis-satisfaction on my first few visits to my dealer, I was certain that he would not see any of my money. Then the owner called me at home one day, thanks to some people at Cannondale; and I sat down with him, explained my frustrations, etc. He told me that he hasn't sold many and needed to get some exposure on the new Cannondale quads in the Anchorage area, I told him I would be racing this year and that would surely spark some interest in the quads. I finally just told him that I would order a Speed that moment for 7100.00. He said, "let's do it." and that was that. So, I got my Speed for about the price of a new Corndog...errr...Cannibal....and am very happy. It wasn't as much of a stretch in price up here between even a 400EX and a Cannondale...I paid 5700.00 for my 400EX in 2001, my Speed is well worth the 1400.00 difference.........JIM
Posted by: GuyRaptor
Dude, I can't tell you where to find a new Speed but I can tell you where you SHOULDN'T buy one--the dealer you just dealt with. Anyone that pressures me like that with 'buy it now or you won't get one for quite a while, subsequently, you'll have to pay full sticker price' doesn't get my money. There are plenty of other Cdale dealers that will take care of you.
Posted by: GuyRaptor
Corndog never mentioned getting a refurbed Cannibal before, is his story changing again? His story was that it was a brand new Cannibal that he bought off a dealer's brother.
Posted by: GuyRaptor
<< Guy, good to have you on the fence with your choice.....I really doubt you would be sorry if you went with the Speed, the Suzuki seems to me to be another detuned atv that is begging for a bunch of mods to make it run like it "should". The Speed, on the other hand; is already pissing fire as soon as you uncrate it. (Sorry, that is the only redneck sounding phrase I could think of.).........JIM >>
Last time I pissed fire was in high school and the doctor had to give me some anti-biotics...nevermind, it's cleared up now.
Anyways, what's got me so mixed up right now is performance versus cost. I'll be the first to defend the Dale but the $7999 sticker's got me (and especially my wife) leaning towards something else. I fully realize the Z400 is no Speed but the $5500 tag is very appealing considering (on paper) it offers as good of handling, at least as good of suspension and some more motor as a 400EX. If money was no object right now I'd be all over the Speed. Until then I'll keep saving my money.
Posted by: GuyRaptor
Yeah, I haven't ruled out a Cannibal but I want the Ohlins if at all possible. Can't you get the Ohlins as a $400 upgrade or something? If I'd buy a Cannibal with the Ohlins upgrade and the remap with a HMF what's the difference with the Speed then?
Posted by: GuyRaptor
I don't get it Corndog, either you like the Cannondale or you don't. You said you're going to talk bad about Cannondale until they send you the 1000 computer and when they do you'll stop? How is the leaking gas cap and anti-freeze spewing going to stop with a new MC1000 computer? More than likely they won't send you a new computer free of charge, especially with Scott Montgomery visiting this board and seeing how you want to pi$$ all over his quads. You catch more flys with honey than vinegar.
Basically what you're saying is that you'll ignore the other problems with your quad if you get a new computer? It's my understading that the only difference in performance between the 500 and 1000 is the ability to raise the rev limit. You don't have any performance mods where it would matter anyway.
Posted by: ltracerx
CornDog, I'll give you my ATC250R and Nitro R/C car for your Cannibal, then you can complain to Honda for not giving you that 4th wheel, OK?
Posted by: CornDog
get the z400 unless you are going to only race. the cannondales are pure race machines. pure race machines. the z400 you can do pretty much anything on. the cannondales are pure race machines. the cannondales are pure race machines. the cannondales are pure race machines. the cannondales are pure race machines. the cannondales are pure race machines. the cannondales are pure race machines. much maintenance.
Posted by: CornDog
i can say whatever i want about cannondale. you guys may not listen to me, but the people i see when i ride do. i am going to keep talking all the people that ask me about my cannondale out of one. with the pics of my cracked frame in hand, i will make sure all the people at my riding spot(a very big one with many people) know all of the problems that come with a cannondale until i get a mc1000. it would save them money to just send the mc1000.
oh yeah, and pi$$ isn't really a word.
Posted by: CornDog
the rev limiter is crazy. in 4th and 5th i bounce of it so much. most of the other cdale owners can get this fixed for free, but it is going to cost me OVER $1000 TO GET IT FIXED! think about that, $1000 that most other people don't have to pay. that is a lot of money! when you pay this much $$$$ for a quad you expect a little extra. i am not even that good of a rider and the rev limiter is just crazy, i am hitting it all the time. extremely frustrating! i am not happy with the problems, but i will fix them. i don't like the fact they sold an fx400 that said cannibal on it. in many magazines they say how the cannibals come with the new ec1000, but they failed to mention that some got the ec500(which may get me a mc1000). i remember we used to always ask cannondale which vin # quads got what and they would never answer. it just really pisses me off, i think you would understand.
Posted by: KNOWSALOT
CornDog's Cannibal is an early '02 that was an FX400. [An FX with red plastic and the FX updates]
He bought it used. From whom, I have no idea.
This all may be wrong, but that's what I have figured out from putting the pieces together from the past what? 8 months??
Posted by: KNOWSALOT
Guy,
Maybe you should look at the Cannibal. There are plenty of dealers that sell these for $6500.00 which is only $800.00 above the cost of the Z400.
Take the Cannibal and add a $200.00 HMF slip-on and then a re-map will give you the best bang for the buck.
If you were to buy the Z400, there would be no way to match the piped Cannibal's power with the $1000.00 difference and keep everything internal stock. Therefore, the stock reliability.
Now...I haven't ridden the Z400 yet, but all reports say that it is NOT a Raptor eater. If it's not a Raptor eater, there is no way it could be a Cannondale eater.
Just something else to think about.
Posted by: KNOWSALOT
LMAO!!!!!
That's the best one yet.
Posted by: KNOWSALOT
YoDaddy,
You brought up an interesting point with CornDog's signature.
Why is it that most sigs get deleted when mentioning other links to web-sites, BUT it's OK to say that you would like to pi$$ all over a manufacturer???
It seems that Gary is the only moderator who actually does his "duty".
He can't be everywhere at once. I understand that. There need to be more moderators and one speciffic to each forum.
That's just my thoughts on the matter.
Posted by: KNOWSALOT
CornDog,
I have been checking into your posts about things. You need to remember that Cannondale and it's dealer network is still very small and it's not hard to find out anything about anyone who owns one whether they bought used or new.
You have been lieing about more than what you admit to. Especially here of late.
You are not a racer by any means and you claiming to hit the rev limiter all the time is a pure exageration on your part.
Posted by: YoDaddy
Alaska400ex - If you want another redneck saying, you could go w/, "The Dale runs like a scalded ass ape." I admit though... I do use that saying every now and then. BR>
Guy Raptor - Don't take advise from Corndog... Do you really want to take advise from someone that has says,
"-------------------------
2002 Cannibal-maintenance nightmare
People of Cannondale, I want to pi$$ all over you.
-waiting on 2002 EC1000 Cdale refuses to give discount on(they gave me 2001 EC500)
2001 Arctic Cat 250 "
Thats like taking advise from Hitler on how to be kind and love everyone.
Posted by: YoDaddy
KNOWSALOT - I still haven't found the problem. It's not a ground wire because I unbolted all the same bolts that I have before except for the shocks but there aren't any ground wires on those bolts, and as far as I can see, the hose that reads barometric pressure looks to be just fine. The o-rings on my fuel lines look ok... are there o-rings in the part that the lines snap into?
When I push the "button" on the clamp thing on the front fuel line, that little slide kind of sticks but I can push it back... maybe that has something to do with it? (That last sentence was kind of confusing.)
I called Cannondale yesterday and the lady told me to call back on Monday because the Tech guys weren't there. So maybe I'll find out what it is on Monday. Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate it.
Posted by: briansgi
95% redneck!! Hey jfboy, are you related to Corndog?? We've already got one idiot who posts on this board all the time, us "rednecks" sure and the hell don't want to read more idiotic dribble from another!!
Please do us all a favor and DO NOT purchase a C'dale!!
Posted by: zukiscott
<< That honda will top out at over 150 100 is the end of 3rd gear >>
ricer
Posted by: smitty911
JFBOY,
You sure your not a redneck? The name suggest it, you know Jonboy, jimbob, JFBOB, that sort of thing. LOL
Knowsalot is reliable. You can buy out of state and not pay state taxes, but when you reg in your home state you may get the tax hit.
Just get a price from out of state and work the local guy. Be prepared to take it somewhere else for service, he doesn't sound like he'll be that good at after sale support. Talk to the service manager first though.
I'm sure I speak for a few others when I ask about the 100 mph in a 45mph zone. That leads me to believe you may not be willing to ride in legal spots, protect the sport from negitive attitude, ride with some form of control, not drink and drive or litter the trails up, so we loss more riding areas. Hope I'm wrong, I've been wrong before.
Smitty
Posted by: smitty911
Good, now we can get on to business.
How bigs your wallet? Refurb Cannibal $5,000 New Cannibal 6,995
Speed 7,995 Blaze 11,295 Moto 12,995.
Get the speed most upgrades for the dollar and you can add from there.
I already answered the out of state thing.
Smitty
Posted by: smitty911
Do a search, this topic has been covered many times. Shocks, computer, plastic, seat cover, tires, ECU Map are some of the tings to ask about.
Smitty
Posted by: smitty911
Back to the subject.
Buy either the speed or the Cannibal, you can't go wrong. The speed will take less money to upgrade. So it all at once, or a little over time.
With most of the quads on the market today the rev limiter is well below that of any Cannondale. DS stock 6,500RPM??, Raptor 7,500RPM?? Cannondale 500ECM 10,600 1000ECM can be remapped witht the 11,600 Limit. I don't see this as limiting factor of buying one.
There is no differance in adding or changing a map between the two computers. You could also swap a Bike for a Quad ECU and have the limit raise. Still not a factor in buying a Cannondale.
You can talk to Cannondale's tech service during business hours and they do call back if you leave a message. I have done this several times. No other manufacturer will do that, unless your the dealer.
That's a big one for buying.
Hope that helps
Smitty
Posted by: Dex2380
I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,I am a pure idiot that has to make excuses cuz I can't handle the bike I bought,
Sorry I got cought up in the chant.
Posted by: Dex2380
Another option might be to have your dealer upgrade some components on the cannibal, Before I bought my speed I was going to get a new cannibal with the Blaze shocks instead of the arvins for an extra $400, but unlike you I LOVE the silver color scheme and had to have the speed
-Josh
You might be able to get all the speed upgrades on the cannibal for around the same price!
Posted by: KING250R
All I know is Corndog got a refurbed fx400 that was supposed to be a cannibla and has nothing but problems with it.
