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Posted by: KING4X4
those pipes are sweet i saw them at the ATVAM deal. any chance you well make them for the 02 to 04 600s and 700s?
thanks
Posted by: KING4X4
oh ok well if and when you do start making them for the old bodies I WANT A SET
thanks
Posted by: Speedwerx
I should have another test report back on the cams this morning we have 3 units out with cams in them doing some testing. The exhaust is also close which I know I've said about 100 times now but were to the point were we wil have to make the decision to produce parts push production back even further they sound sweet, but the power gians arn't what we were shooting for. What are the main reasons you guys wnat our duals is it for the true dual set-up or the hp gains both what are you guys thinking? Just trying to get some insight on customers thoughts.
Posted by: Speedwerx
The sound is there the duals soudn awsome not too loud but just enough to keep everone on there toes.
Posted by: Speedwerx
6000 - 6200 is the best. Testing has been going really good. I'm still waiting to hear from a couple of guys to see how things have been going though. I will have 5 cams on the shelf in the next couple of weeks.
Posted by: Speedwerx
I don't recall posting anythign about the master cyls. on that.
Posted by: Speedwerx
Full system is supposed to be done this spring. I know you have heard this from us before but this is when it is supposed to be done sorry for the delay. We do haowever have our camshafts complete they work awsome bottom end to top end they are way better than stk. reclutching hass to be done with these cams as well.
Posted by: Speedwerx
I'd give you hp #'s but it'snot 100% fair to wheel dyno any of these these automatic machines, reason being you can change clutching on them that won't work in real lif ebut on the dyno it shows more hp? I will have some acceleration runs available for you shortly once I'm able to go out and do some more feild testiing. I can tell you that we have to add 4-6 grams of clutch weigth just to make the quad ridable once the cams are installed or it just hits the rev. limiter. The cam is redy to ship today.
On the ex. its more of a sound thing than anything in te feild we don' t see much of a gaon but it does sound much better. They should be availbel this spring april/may pipes are being bent right now.
Posted by: Speedwerx
As of right now they will only be available for the 05' and newer 600/700/800 models. Maybe inthe Future we will figur eout a way to get them in the older bodies?
An update for you I was @ our pipe bender yester day and parts are coming , They are not coming as fast as I woudl like though. I hope to start building pipes by the end of the week. Anither delay is going ot be silencers we ahd to make a new silencer shell for the left hand side of the machine which is not a huge deal but when our aluminum tubbing manufacture was making raw peices the die exploded and set us back even further but we will get them done as soonas we can. Hope fully we can start shipping parts by the end of the month.
Posted by: Speedwerx
The web site needs to be updated you do not need to make any other changes when putting the ex. on. On the dyno #'s you'll notice I post alot of times and not hp # reason being the mph per second #'s are more of a real world situation. We report some hp #'s with our snowmobile stuff but we also use our stalker system for testing on sleds too. 2ndly dyno #'s can be misleading and alot of the time the #'s are pretty hard to believe, another thing is everyones dyno is different we get people calling the time saying I dyno'd over @ xxxxxxx and only got this or I dyno'd here are got 5 more hp. Anyways I didn't mean to drag that out but just wanted to make it clear to you on why I won't give you a actual dyno sheet or print out. We don't want someone to purchase a 600 ex. system and expect there quad to flip over. When that happens it only makes it worse for everyone in the industry, the customer feels like he got ripped off and then says ba things about brand xxx and the he never wants to modify his machine again because he can't trust anyone.
So with our duals on a 600/700/800 you can expect an honest 1/2mph gain in a 8-10 second acceleration run. I know it doesn't sound like much but, 4-stroke ex. systems will not show gains near what 2-stroke system will never ever. If hp is what you are after you need to get one of our cams in your bike, we look at he ex. as being a sound pleaser more than anything and the cams are most likly going to be chearper berfore installation.
Posted by: Speedwerx
Ryan with the duals you won't see much of agian in the feild they are better on the bottom but perform the same as stock everywere else. But they sound sweet nice deep tone to them they still come in at 96db too. Ont he cam you pick up an insane amount of rpm but the revlimiter kicks in @ 6400 rpm so what we ahv to do is add 4-6 grams of weight for stock tire machines. In a 10 second run you can expect over a 3-4 mph gain. We have sold a few of the cams but I don't think any of those guys are on the forums?? We will see? Update on the duals pipes are built we have been taking orders, we are just waiting for our silencer shells which we should have a partial of today. You cna cal lto order or go online nad order them if you would like. They retail for 605.00 we also have our single slip-on for 222.00
Posted by: Speedwerx
I don't knwo of anyone else who offers a 800 cam there are 700's out there but the 800's should be different other wise they did not do there homework.
Posted by: ravencr
Has anyone done a comparison test against the other cams available for the 800 EFI's?
Chris
Posted by: ryankmiller
Anyone else try the cam? What kind of field testing was done. Did you guys drag another stock cam quad? You give us a round about idea on acceleration with the dual pipes and an honest opinion. What kind of mph gains in your 10 sec. blast with the cams?
Just curious. Always looking for more power.....
Thanks
Posted by: wildwilly
just wondering when the true dual exaust will be complete and cams for 800 efi sportsman?thanks william
Posted by: wildwilly
lawdogb2 how does your 05 work?how many miles on it?
Posted by: wildwilly
Jeremy what i'm looking for is hp,true duals,and something that sounds like you have alot of power.stock is just to quiet for the size of the quad.got big quad want loud exaust.and by the way put my 27" gators on this weekend went out for a rip in the mud and water these tires are awesome. lawdogB2 did you have any trouble with the exaust melting your plastic ,i did but fixed it.i now have 64 miles on it 20 on two wheels .i had to line mine up it was way out from the factory pulling to left hard with stock tires,they started to scalp the tires.william
Posted by: wildwilly
So jeremy how did the tests go?oh and what should my 2006 800 sp be reving wot?it is turning 6050rpm on a long run.william
Posted by: jmeiss
Is there a completion date yet??? Or do you need another Beta tester? I am looking for the sound, look and maybe a few HP gains... Just curious if there is any update
Joe
Posted by: LawdogB2
DITTO! How about an update!
Posted by: LawdogB2
Wildwilly, I am really very pleased with my 800. I have ridden pretty hard and everything still works like it should. It is getting faster and getting better mileage all of the time. I have about 160 hard miles on it now. When I use my equipment, I use it. When I am not using it, I do maintain and take care of it. I have pulled stumps (after cutting/pulling them loose from the ground), I have been mudding, trail riding, hill climbing, drag racing, and running it wide open on a nice smooth combined bean field. No complaints. If you accept it for what it is and don't try to ride it like a sport quad, I feel that even non-Polaris enthusiasts could enjoy one. Everyone who rides it has good things to say. The only real problem that I've had is the master cylinder has leaked twice and ate the paint off of the front of it. I am about to go back to the dealer and get that fixed. There are probably guys here more knowledgable than I am, hopefully they will chime in. I say all of this as a guy who is not blindly loyal to Polaris so I that is a fairly unbiased assessment. If I thought it were junk, I would say so. Send me an IM if you want more detail. Rick.
Speedwerx, POWER BABY, YEAH! POWER!!!!!!! I am primarily after the power, I would like to see a reasonable gain across the power band, preferably on the bottom end and mid-range. I would like to keep the look of the duals, but if a single pipe made more power, I prefer function over form. Thanks for asking, I'm impressed. You make me feel loved. Please keep us informed.
Posted by: LawdogB2
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Originally posted by: xler8ion
The reply and question about the master cylinder was directed to LawdogB2 re: his post of October 17, 2005 although it was part of the thread and question to you speedwerx by wildwilly but if you have an answer I'll take it
I still have the same problem. I have had it in to be looked at and the dealer had a young kid (19-20 yoa) in there working on them. He told me that it was because of dirt around the seal. I told him that it leaked before the thing had ever been dirty or ridden hard. He said something to the effect of "Yeah, I bet!", and the conversation went down hill pretty fast from there. He also ignored my complaint about the foot/rear brake not being very effective. I am going to take it back when the "real" mechanic is in there. I may contact Polaris first, however. Sorry this doesn't help much.
Posted by: LawdogB2
Mega Bump!
January since you last updated us, how is it looking?
Can you approximate, in some quantitative way (i.e. hard numbers or a real % increase), the power improvement of the cams that you are putting out for the 800s? How about the same for just the exhaust? How about combined?
Posted by: xler8ion
lawdog,
I have an 05 sp 800 and saw your post on the master cylinder leak. My is also leaking and I was wondering what the dealer found when you returned it to him. My leak is at the front of the cylinder where the cap mates with the reservoir body. I have removed the cap, checked the bladder and mating surface without finding any obvious probs. Are these plastic caps warping? Anybody else with a fix or idea let me know.
Posted by: xler8ion
The reply and question about the master cylinder was directed to LawdogB2 re: his post of October 17, 2005 although it was part of the thread and question to you speedwerx by wildwilly but if you have an answer I'll take it
Posted by: xler8ion
Lawdog,
Thanks for the reply. I completely removed the cap and bladder again and attempted to remove the blader from the cap but the "eye" is also plunged into the bladder/gasket and I did not want to force it out without another one, However, I did find that fluid was laying between the bladder and the cap which is not as sealed as the area between the bladder and the reservoir so I completely cleaned the gasket/bladder and the cap on all surfaces and replaced it. I will let you know if it cured it or not. Mating a plastic cap to a metal reservoir just asks for this prob in this application.
Posted by: xler8ion
Well I rode 30 mi this weekend after the master cylinder cap disassembly and cleaning and I have no leak. I believe that somehow the fluid that was between the bladder and the cap was the cause. How it got there is an issue bu the bottom line is removing it apparently cured the problem. Check yours and try it.
Posted by: xler8ion
Speedwerx,
I have an 05 spt 800 and have been waiting for your report about the dual exhaust sys. I now see you have it ready for production. What was the final torque and hp/rpm figures you arrived at? Also, it appears from your website an efi change is required, referred to as an "EFI Jet Change"? Could you clarify?
Thanks
