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Posted by: Slinger
I'd pick a Ranger over a Rhino anyway. "The UTV by which all others are measured by." What? Is this like fantasy football?
Posted by: Slinger
Yeah, VINNY you're right about the first year bugs. I've been bitten by that twice now; a 1999 Prairie 300 and a 1995 Polaris Scrambler 400. Both needed a couple of years of production to get right. I also have the 1987 Quadzilla but didn't buy it new and haven't had any head trouble with it anyway.
Anyone have pics to either wheeler?
Posted by: Bill35
youll be seeing alot of guys trying to trade in there rhino's thats for sure.
Posted by: Bill35
Play it smart and wait for the razor.If not youll wish you had......
Posted by: Bill35
UTV raceing is really growing and I think thats what polaris is giong after with the razor.These things are going to be big sellers.
Posted by: Bill35
Im not sure about the south but here in the midwest polaris hold there own in the resale department.I think this is a good move for them to make if you want a work horse like i did you buy a ranger or a sport side by side you get the razor.As far a you guys liking the jap brands down south lets not forget you guys down there are used to losing...........................KIDDING just alittle joke....I dont think there going to be out till summer,
Posted by: Bill35
Well ive got a sp700 and a ranger so getting the ok from my wife for a Razor is going to be a hard sell.But god I want one bad.I was at the polaris dealer hear in Missouri and the parts manager was telling me the one he saw was wild he didnt get to drive it but said the guy was jumping like a sport quad.Il find a way to get one....
Posted by: Bill35
pwillie your right you should say with your rhino.they are good for hauling small limbs and trash.The Razor's made for hauling ass.And what do you mean its a polaris.Are you one of them guys that hate things that say MADE IN THE USA.on it.And to boot its a american owned company.PLEASE....love it or get the hell out.
Posted by: Bill35
You know some of the biggest polaris dealerships in the world are in the south.So dont say people dont like them down here.And I think there the #1 or 2 top selling atvs in the world.Your just mad at polaris because they"ve got you beat.The Ranger will out work a rhino any day and now they have a side by side that will blow away a rhino on the trail. So dont say silly crap like {Its a polaris}
Posted by: GITRDONE
Have you seen the new 2008 Polaris Ranger Razr ?
50" wide, 945 lbs, independant, 4x4, 800 EFI - 0 -35 mph in 4 seconds, top speed 55 mph factory or 70 mph with cdi box.They are $ 10,000.00 - summer of 2007 they will start hitting the dealers. I have 2 friends that currently have the Rhinos but are chuking them to get the Razrs ,Can't wait to drive em.
Need I say more.
Rhino owners beware! While you are changing out the brakes or fixing the broken axles, or just cruising @ 39 mph the Razor will put the smokin on ya.
Posted by: pwillie
Any news on the Polaris razr? I know one thing,you get no re sale value out of Polaris in my area.Honda,Yamaha,Kawa,Suzuki,and Artic C. are the big dogs on the block.....Most of the dealers of the aforementioned brands will not take a Polaris on trade.I like the Rhino because you can haul,race are just have fun with it...
Posted by: pwillie
Bill! We didn't lose....we are just taking a break! Seriously, the Polaris doesn't sell very well down here.I wish there was a SXS that was American made that could hold up like the Japanese stuff. Honda and Yamaha is king in this part of the country.... A true southerner never conceded.....I have a long line heritage as a rebel.....my great grand father fought in the last battle of Blakely(two weeks after Lee gave up) and was a corporal in the 21st mississippi reg.....
Posted by: pwillie
I would say the "Fifty" inch thing is more about old trails that were cut for standard ATVs than any laws that pertain to a width of an ATV. I was surprised that My Rhino would cross bridges and snake through woods that had used for standard size ATVs.....Over a three mile ride, I had to only cut one small tree,and that was because of the roll bar.Most people in my camp put wider tires on their utes and it didn't make any difference..
Posted by: pwillie
After taking a close look at the Razr, I will stick with my Rhino. I used my Rhino this weekend,and not for fun. I cleaned up my yard very fast(loaded limbs and trash) and it made the job much easier! Love the dump body and room,which the Razr is lacking....and its a "Polaris"!!!!
Posted by: pwillie
AS for as.... "Get the hell out", I should be saying that to you, I am native American! Polaris is known for poor build quality....no one will take them in trade here. I wouldn't hit a bull hog in the butt with one!I will buy American when ,and if we build a quality four wheeler,or UTE!
Posted by: pwillie
WE don't claim Missou as a southern state....Polaris is a "marginal " machine in these parts,they can't stay with a Japanese machine,when it come to tough hunting use. At least with my hunting buddies.There is at least 10 clubs in the immediate area,( Over 100 hunters)and not one person has a Polaris.They just don't sale down here. The Rangers build quality is not near as respectable as the Rhino,and the ride is not as nice. I tested both vehicles,and looked at resale value,thats why I bought a Rhino....
Posted by: buck183
Yawn!
Buck
Posted by: buck183
I think it depends on how the individual uses their Rhino as to whether or not they will get rid of it. If one owns a Rhino just for play and duning then I do believe there will be those who jump ship. For the people who actually use their Rhino to work and play, I don't see it happening. The Rhino just looks to be the only one in the market that is the best cross between work and play. There are units that obviously shine better for payload and passenger room than the Rhino. And it's looking to be obvious that the RZR will outshine it when it comes to play. But there isn't any one unit that does both as good.
I think the RZR is gonna be an amazing unit. Looks to have a lower center of gravity. I like the seating position in it. The motor looks like it's gonna scream. Probably gonna be THE unit to own stock if one wants to dune and play alone. BUT, it wouldn't work for me. No cargo room.
I am picking up our 2007 Rhino tomorrow. We just purchased a few acres we are building our new home on. It is gonna be the best of both worlds for us. Taking a dune trip on Spring Break and it's going. When it gets back it will go back to work on the property earning her keep. The RZR isn't gonna do both. The RZR doesn't have the "ute" factor to it. You have to remember that's where the initial appeal of the Rhino came from. It does both fairly well.
I just don't see it as a Rhino "killer" in the effect that it can't do both.
Buck
Posted by: buck183
Some great replies to this thread. I like how everyone has put in some good info and we are not fighting about something we have no clue about yet.
On a side note. I see a lot of people across this great nation and many forums making a big deal out of this 50" width stuff. It have become obvious to me that you guys have some sort of legislation to deal with on this topic. Could someone elaborate on this? What some of that state laws are. Why do you even have these laws? I ask this because it makes no sense to me. We don't deal with it. You can drive a truck down a trail if it will fit and not get in trouble in these here parts.
Just something I've always wondered.
Buck
Posted by: Teebone56
The new razer has a lot of pluses for me fuel injection size (easier to fit in the hauler) and i can use it in the offroad park ride at!
Competion is always good yamaha may have to step it up!
Posted by: ForemanDan
I didn't think it was cramped at all. I sat in one recently with my wife. I am 6' 245lbs and she is average sized. Plenty of room.
Posted by: DesertViper
Does anyone know anything solid about the 2008 Rhino's? 700 FI? Any chassis changes? A new "sport" model that has more than shiny plastic?
Our local desert racing series is including Rhino's in their desert race today, and I predict their will be a few more clubs that will be adding a Rhino class if today's race is successful. The clubs are primarly motorcycle clubs, and these are motorcycle desert races, but the clubs have included an ATV class for the last several years, and this is the first Rhino class race. I have raced the ATV class for a few years, and now the motorcycle class because I got tired of the poor handling and suspension of the ATVs (relative to the bikes). But I have to admit, a Rhino race would be a riot. We owned a 2006 Rhino 660, and if we still had it I would have a blast racing it. So does anyone know if Yamaha will change the Rhino for '08? Otherwise the new Pull-your-ass RZR looks like the sxs to have if you are considering racing it on a motorcycle course (aka: narrow).
Posted by: prowrench
It ceretainly has potential, but some of us actually know that for 2008 Yamaha will also be adding a new and sportier Rhino to their line up in adition to it's existing line. Get ready for a suprise, Yamaha is keeping it's cards close to their chest. A week ago I posted acurate info on a couple other forums I visit. The RAZR meeting the 50" requirement on many trails is a very good thing, unfortunately the lack of a true 4x4 system that the rider can control will keep many away.
I remember when the Rhino first came out. "it does not even have struts" "it's to narrow" "the bed is to small" "it does not have a straight rear axle" "it will never sell". Today the Rhino is the UTV all others are measured by. Look at the title of this thread, even polaris owners are now coming around to that reality they denied for so long.
I'm not slamming the RAZR, big improvment for them. Truth is when the rumors surfaced about it I was gonna buy one. But the lack of true 4x4 and knowing a new Rhino is a few months behind, it's best to wait for my needs.
No matter what you ride, have fun!
Posted by: notmuch69
From the pictures I've seen, it looks like it's pretty cramped for two people. Their shoulders were mashed against each other. It would probably be good for two little people at the dunes or something.
Posted by: zitterich246
Hey, I think you miss read the info, it has a low center of gravity making the most stable utv on the market. I have seen two large people sit in it (1 about 6' 250, and the other about 6' 4" 200) and they said it was comfortable. The only downfall is it cant do much work but will be capable of 55 mph and 65 mph with small mods.
Posted by: rstrand
I really hate to change the subject but I ordered two Polaris rangers from two different dealers 150 miles apart. Got them both for list price which is probably going to turn out to be a pretty good deal as I had a chance to take a spin in the rzr in Arizona and these things are trully a blast to drive. They feel like they've got twice the power of a stock Rhino and actually come with a fuel guage-speedo stock for the 9999.00. You can take a flying leap in one without ending up on your nose with two passengers on board and take it sideways at will. Concerns regarding interior room can be put aside due to the rear mount engine not sitting between the driver-passenger. Another major plus is the lack of noise in the cockpit compared to my Rhino. You can actually have a conversation in this thing if you decide to go without a helmet on your noggin and I swear it didn't seem like it was near the dustbowl inside with a windsheild installed as the Rhino is. Articulation could be a problem as the stabilizer does take some of the twistability out of the chassy but I imagine it won't be long and there will be a quick disconnect feature in the aftermarket. Besides this thing flat GETS AROUND A CORNER with very liittle of the tippiness associated with the Rhino. Didn't get a chance to cruise one with the oversize tires but why screw with the 50 inch width and the wonderful handling. The big shot test drivers really tried like hell to run a rock the stock tires but couldn't get the job done (I mean they really tried hard-you would have thought it was a contest of some sort). Anyway I felt like throwing my Rhino over a cliff until I got home, went for a ride and realized the RZR is an entirely new and different direction in a SXS and the Rhino now fits in the middle somewhere. This reminds me of the old Honda go-cart of the early 90's on steroids. So I ordered two and am hoping to get at least one as I can't imagine going through the summer without one. Both dealers claim to have been notified last week of impending delivery in mid-to-late April and both seperately said they were told to try to keep them for demo units as they would'nt ship again till Fall. These are small dealers so they are going to SELL. The big dealer in the area has deposits on five.
Posted by: ThomNY
theres no dout, as far as going faster the rzr is better stocks the rhino, however the rhino has enough room for back seats which i absolutle love, i can ride my wife and kids all in one sxs.(if i had a wife or kids or even a sxs lol) PLus all the aftermarket performance parts for the rhino...(engine tweaks, suspention, long travel suspension kits with extended aarms n what not) Im going to be purchasing a sxs and performance is my goal as i am a quaad rider/racer as well and enjoy riding fast, so im stuck deciding between prowler xt, rhino sport, or wait for the rzr. so anyways as far as if they can do any work that just a extra bonus
Posted by: ThomNY
yeah i agree bill.... rhino racing is a pretty big sport in some areas...and thats all there is is rhinos....i dont even see any prowlers for some reason. but i can guarentee these rzr's will be able to compete with rhinos in mx style racing!!!
Posted by: VINNYSJUS4FUN
I personally would be a little leery of something 1st year from Polaris. The rzr might be good for dunes but as far as trails and mud it seems as though it is gonna be a little tippy. I guess we will just have to wait and see. If you are small stature it should be comfortable but for the larger framed person it looks like a tight fit. I think that the Rhino is still on top for those of us that like to trail ride and cruise around. Just my 2cents.
Posted by: malaka22
the new sport edition of the rhino is looking pretty sweet
Posted by: papij
I've read lots of different opinions on this matter. I think people who use rhino's for work is a very small percentage to people who actually use them for sport, and to have lots of fun. This is why I think the RZR is going to be a big hit. Lower center of gravity for me is a big plus, more power stock, awesome. Just imagine when the aftermarket stuff comes out for this unit, it'll be incredibly fast. So far I know 5 people with rhino 660's, they all use them for play, when they read the review on the RZR, they're going with polaris. I think the rhino is an incredible unit capable of almost anything. But something new and exiting always sells better. Well, thats what I think, I want to know if anyone knows any information on the upcoming honda RUV, as well as Kawi's donkey.
Posted by: papij
This is to buck183, about the 50" width I was told that this was a big deal, because in some states they have trails which have posts measuring 52" in width. Which they only want quads, and other small atv's to go through, and the RZR with aftermarket wheels should squeeze through, where the rhino can't. This is what I was told, whether its true or not, I don't know. Well have a good one.
Posted by: fadedglory
I have seen a lot of info. and opinions about the new Rzr. I believe every person must decide the aspect of what they will use the vehicle for. I own a 2006 rhino 660. I personaly will not trade it off for a rzr. Here in West Virginia, the rhino is a true work machine, and I put it to the test everyday on our family farm. My rhino has also proven itself on the trails and in the mudholes. On the otherhand, I have added many accesories to get that nice modified look. The rzr has a nice modified look straight from the factory, which will save on costs to upgrade to that sporty look. All in all, I believe a true rhino fan will stay with the reliability that has been proven in all aspects of riding.
Posted by: HeftyLefty
Where I live in Virginia, my closest riding trails are in National Forests. ATVs that weigh over 600 lbs and are over 50 inches wide are prohibited. Which limits my atv choices to Honda and Yamaha. The rest are too heavy,and of course no side by sides. Thankfully, there are no limits on engine size, and the Grizzly 700 weighs in at 600 lbs.
So I think the '50 inch thing' is thanks to the fools in Washington, DC deciding what's best for us when we ride on federal lands that are maintained by our tax dollars.
