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Posted by: TalonMan
I have read allot of posts here and love the information you get from this site.
1) On my Carter DLX150IIR is there a way to get any info from my Kart from the serial number? *LAGBTRFU045005062*
2) Are the shocks that most of the Clone Karts running like my Talon to be considered Hi-end, Med, or Low end, in general?
3) Any chance I have the Bigger Valves in my engine, or no way.
4) Would I need this pipe:
http://www.eastsidems.com/eshopprod_cat_1453-6798_product_169346.HP_BUGGY_PIPE.htm
or this pipe:
http://www.eastsidems.com/eshopprod_cat_1453-10416_product_169349.HP_KIT.htm
for my Talon. The pipe angel looks different and I would like it confirmed as to wich one I need.
If you want to read it, this is information on my Talon gathered from this site and the Carter manual.
*** Carter Brothers DLX150IIR Talon ***
Kart Serial Number *LAGBTRFU045005062* (Located between seat's)
An advanced go anywhere, do anything full suspension kart with, motorcycle engine, reverse gear, dual wheel drive, variable ratio CVT drive system, electric start engine, four wheel hydraulic disc brakes, large knobby tires, dual deep padded bucket seats and many other features.
Safety: Kill switch, automatic fuel shut-off valve, key, reflectors, speed limiter,
Anti-theft ignition key switch, engine serial number, and All-Time Safety Lights.
Dry Weight: 585 lbs. Kart Dimensions: Length - 85" : Width - 53" : Height 57.4"
Gound Clearance: Front: 7" / Rear: 7" Suspension:Front-Dual A-Arm Suspension - Rear-Swing Arm Suspension.
Full four wheel-Shock absorber on each wheel Aluminum Rim's
Head Light: Hi - Lo beam lights Manufactured in China under the supervision of Carter Brothers.
Max Rider Weight: 450 lbs Starter and Ignition: Electric Start (Battery: 12 Volt)
Transmission: Variable Ratio Automatic CVT Turn signals
Max Speed: 36 M.P.H. top speed Rear View Mirror
Trailer Hitch Parking Break with Break Light.
Color: Red Horn
12 Volt Power Outlet Fenders on all wheels
Braking System: 4-Wheel Hydraulic Disc Tires and Wheels: Front 19" x 7" x 8" Cleated
Frame: 12 Gauge Steel, Baked on Powder Paint Rear 22" x 10" x 10" Cleated
Distance from Seat to Pedals: 36" to 41" Drive System: Positive Traction Rear Axle 2 Wheel Drive
Chain - (KMC) O-Ring Chain
Engine:
150cc four stroke 12.5 HP engine @ 7,500 RPM's Lubrication Style: Pressure / Splash
Bore x Stroke - 57.4mm x 57.8mm Displacement - 149.6 cm3
Compression ratio - 9.2:1 Output Power 7.4Kw/7500rpm
Spark plug - C7HSA(NGK) set gap 0.6-0.7 Maximum Torpue - 13/550 foot lbs/r/min
Throttle: Foot with adjustable speed restrictor Fuel Brand: 90 + Octane (a must for max performance)
Block Type - GY6 (Standard) AirBox Type - BN (Standard)
Carter Manual recomends (30 Oz) SAE-10W/40 Lubricateing Oil.
Carb Type - 24mm standard (KF,CB24J)(K F standard of Japan)(Keihin)(Auto Choke).
This Carter Brother's DLX 150IIR Talon Go-Kart. It's frame is built in China, by the same people who make the other "Clone Karts" like the Dazon Raider, KPX Xterro, the Kasea AB150RII, the Twister Hammerhead, and the Blade. Each brand then puts their own version of a CVT/gearcase with different ratio's. They will also put their own piston/head combinations.
Possible Upgrades
The Dazon company uses a cylinder head on the YerfDog with a superior design. NOTE: The Dazon head is approxamately 1/2" taller then the Yerf and KPX cylinder head wich means the cam chain and head studs are 1/2" too short. The combustion chamber is semi-hemispherical versus the KPX's and Yearf's heart-shaped chamber. The Dazon head can be purchased for about $172.00. They also use the bigger valves (like the Yerf-Dog) for better top end breathing. The bigger valves can be purchased for about $25.00 each. Some aditional porting can be done to reshape the ledges around the guides, small amount off the roof to help straighten the air path, and matching the intake manifold size and spacer size to wich ever is greater. I am not sure if a work around for this issue has been found? I dont think I could pull this off in my Talon but I would love to.
The Yerf-Dog cylinder head and larger valves (.100" larger than stock) to give you a performance increase.
The Carter Brothers XTV carburetor has a larger venturi diameter of 28mm, insted of the 24mm standard carb.
Carburator is $90.00, and the intake manifold is $15.00.
Note: The metal XTV manifold tube puts the carb about 1 inch further back. This points right at the upper cross brace on the swing arm with only about 3/4 to 1 inch space between the carb and the brace.
The 2005 models may have a bigger, better fitting carb option soon?
An updated CDI unit, and some new ignition parts ... coil?
Not sure where to get a good updated CDI yet. Stu from Blade confirmed that the New KPX karts (Hulk,Xterro and Teranex) have one? New jet size went up 0.002 inches. Sounds like from 108 to 110 but not sure.
New Tail Pipe and Air filter
eather this one:
http://www.eastsidems.com/eshopprod_cat_1453-10416_product_169349.HP_KIT.htm
or this one
http://www.eastsidems.com/eshopprod_cat_1453-6798_product_169346.HP_BUGGY_PIPE.htm
still not sure what is right for my Talon yet, the pipes look different.
Posted by: TalonMan
Read this 32 page long thread, it may help you make a decision.
http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/56/threadid/412424/STARTPAGE=1
I got some good info from it.
If I had to do it over again, I would be looking at the new kid on the block the "Timberwolf 150 Dune Buggy".
He looks like a runner to me ?
http://www.kpii.com.tw/dunebuggy_timberwolf110150.htm
I would like to see a video of him in action!
Go Karts Rule !!!
Posted by: TalonMan
On second thought though, all his parts are different and you might miss out on the legendary hord of third party upgrade parts yet to come? I would love to see more ready make kits made for this engine.
Posted by: icebite
I dont have any help for you but will be watching responses to your questions with intrest. I want to buy a kart just dont know which one yet. Leaning toward the blade or carter talon, both single seat 150cc. If you have any advice it would be appreciated, Charlie
