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Posted by: RAPTORAZ
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Originally posted by: bhart
Don't think I'd hold my breath for the Rhino's to come down in price. Yamy had a $300 increase mid-year 04 and I hear they are raising prices yet again in 05. They know they have the hottest ticket in town, and they're going to run with it until competition comes around, which is nowhere in site just yet. The Rhino's may be heavy, but they still do pretty good in the sand, especially if you put some good paddles on them. They're not kicking butt on quads.... yet. It'll be a tough competition, but with a few minor engine mods, the beast should be pretty competitive. I'm hoping to do a 727 kit before too long. And nitrous added in for good measure. Still might not beat a healthy Raptor, but it'll be an awful fun ride!
Just for curiousities sake, I took the known RWHP of my 727 and did a power to weight comparison. A Rhino with my 727 would have almost exactly the same power to weight as a stock 400EX. So you're gonna need the nitrous to beat most piped Raptors.
Posted by: rich700
Wich C.D.I. should i get? Rich
Posted by: rich700
Black Rhino,do you have the spedo? does it work with the 2004 cdi? i heard the spedo doesnt work and the gear indicator light flashes. thanks Rich
Posted by: Coyotechaser
You could use a CDI from a 2004 Grizz. Installs like the stock unit. (DW June issue)
Posted by: fast440
Anyone out there have this beast? If so, do you ever drive in sand? Does it feel underpowered with two people? If you drive it in Glamis will it make it up Olds? how much do you think I could expect to find one of these things for slightly used? Thanks guys
Posted by: Syrupdawg
You can put a CDI on it and it will run in the low 50s.
Posted by: UltimateAussie
why dont they just make the rhino faster to begin with. i mean they could just use some more of the grizzly componets and boom a fast rhino. becuase most of the people who want them are just going to make then faster anyways and if you dont need the speed you can just not go as fast.
Posted by: bready04
I was riding around a dune in oregon with a guy who had one, it went pretty good it made it up some pretty steep sand hills, speed wasnt bad, still made it up the same hills with a passenger, it had a hmf exhaust on it also, thats all i know about it or seen of it, hope that helps some
Posted by: TheBlackRhino
I've got one. I took it to Ogilby (right next to Glamis) when it was still in stock trim. Dropped tire pressure to 5 pounds all around. I was blown away (and pleased) at how well it did in the dunes. Went everwhere I pointed it. If you know Ogilby/Gordon's the popular hill climb is called Test. I was able to do Test, but at the easiest spot. BTW, I also had my Raptor out there, and ended up driving the Rhino much more than the Raptor, it was that much fun.
Since then I've added the Grizzly CDI (it's a 2004 Grizzly control module from the Dealer, around $300), an HMF pipe, and 165 main jets. What a difference! It'll do close to 50 (they do over 50 if you change the clutch componenets out to a Grizzly clutch stuff). And I have to be careful with the gas on turns, as it now will break the tires loose if you're not careful with the pedal. It's about the most fun toy I've ever owned/ridden. I'm just sorry I got my performance mods done too late, past the desert season. Now I've got to wait for the desert to cool down before I get back out there.
I need to order 27" tires (stock are 25) and try Test again. I'm pretty sure with the performance mods I'll do anything Test has to offer. Also want to take it to Glamis and go for Oldsmobile, but from what I hear, Test is more aggresive that Olds, so I guess that's the test. Now if I can find some paddles or DesertTracks, the damn thing will be totally unstoppable. It's got more than enough power for the dunes. With paddles for traction, OMG!
Posted by: bhart
Sorry it took a while to get back to you. The Griz CDI does not work with the Digital Dash. The reverse light wacks out (even with standard panel lights) and the speedo/odometer doesn't work. There's a new CDI coming out that eliminates the speed limiter, and works with the Dash. Just can't remember who's got it, so many vendors...
Posted by: bhart
Don't think I'd hold my breath for the Rhino's to come down in price. Yamy had a $300 increase mid-year 04 and I hear they are raising prices yet again in 05. They know they have the hottest ticket in town, and they're going to run with it until competition comes around, which is nowhere in site just yet. The Rhino's may be heavy, but they still do pretty good in the sand, especially if you put some good paddles on them. They're not kicking butt on quads.... yet. It'll be a tough competition, but with a few minor engine mods, the beast should be pretty competitive. I'm hoping to do a 727 kit before too long. And nitrous added in for good measure. Still might not beat a healthy Raptor, but it'll be an awful fun ride!
Posted by: bhart
Well, there you go. A good excuse to spend some $$ on nitrous!
Posted by: bhart
In technical terms: LIABILITY. Yamaha won't assume that kind of risk. Now why they let a Grizzly go in the 60's and a Rhino is restricted to 40 I don't know. I guess they figured the Rhino would be a slightly different market. Plus they roll fairly easily. The Rhino is still the fastest side-by-side out there, even in stock trim. Plus I'm sure they figured that someone would come along and make parts to satify those of us with a need for speed.
