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Posted by: billl2099
here's the best advise you'll get all day, DON'T BUY A CHINESE ATV, they are all P.O.S. spend some time and do so research here and you'll see what i'm talking about. also you'd already spended $80000-90000 on your truck and trailer why would you want to embarrass yourself riding chinese crap, buy a name brand
Posted by: billl2099
in the 70's HD was too, when afm owned them, you would go into a show room and they had oil drip pans unerneath each bike, but they were able to turn things around. . i don't recall the japenese ever importing a poor quality m/c or atc, they did import some dangerous ones like honda and yamaha 3 wheelers, and the toys in the fifty's were junk, but today if it's japanese is a high quality item. maybe in the next 10 years the chinese will have a better product, but not today.
Posted by: billl2099
Originally posted by: moroccomole2004
LOL... Your excused and you bring up the right point that you need to take care of your ride so it will take care of you...
i don't buy into your statment, even if you're the best menhanic in the world and maintain these chinese quads you can not prevent them from braking frames, swing arms, shocks, front suspression parts, wheel bearing, alxe bearing, axles, and i'm not even counting the electrical and carbuator problems. these problems are very common on chinese atv's including jetmoto, i've owned 2 kazuma dingos, 2 meerkats ,1 sunl 90, 1 sunl 110, 1 baja 70, 1 cobra peirspeed 250, both the dingo's, meerkat and peirspped we had for 2 years, i still have a cabinet full of parts for the dingo and meerkats, the spares for the peirspeed i give to the buyer, the sunl 90 frame broke after 10 hours of riding time by a 6 year old. over the past 4 years that i been around chinese quads i haven't seen any big improvement if any in quality, i believe they can be ok for the 4-12 year olds beginners, but once they pass the beginner stage and are into jumping and sliding around corners it's time for major brand quad. i will not recommend nor buy another chinese pos atv. been there- done that. one more thing
arizona is the capital of atv's, everyody has them here because we can licence and drive them on our streets. so when it comes to resell, forget it, you're eaither going to give it away or put it in the dumpster.
Posted by: billl2099
Originally posted by: jetmotoracer
bill i have to say i agree with you.... it now sounds like im a hypicrit because in the beginning i was like i love my jm but that was when every thing worked right and didnt break when i hit the starter
i know how you felt about your quad, I am very sorry to hear you're having problems with it. if their's anything i can help you with or you need any type of fab work , please let me know
Posted by: brca
Hi Jane,
I own both brands. Currently, my son has a Kazuma 50 and I have a Honda TRX250EX. All we do is trail riding. What you are going to find is that the Chinese brand ATV's are cheaper in initial cost and made cheaper. If your b/f is OK with having to wrench on his ATV once in a while, and you can't afford the name brand ATV, than go with a Jet Moto. In my opinion, they are the best of the off brand ATV's. If you can afford it and want worry free riding and reliability, go with one of the name brands like Honda, Polaris or Suzuki. I can tell you from experience that I have had to wrench on my sons Kazuma many times, but it's OK with me, because I have the ability and know how and I only paid $500.00 for it brand new. So, I expected that I would have to perform more work on it. I will say this though, my sons next quad will be a Honda or Polaris.
Posted by: jetmotoracer
i agree with bill if i had of known of all this trubble im haveing i wouldnt have bought a chinnese atv, there good for the first mounth then things fall apart, i would go with a honda 400ex.... but i dont own one but i ride with a kid who does
Posted by: jetmotoracer
and another thing they arnt relly good for trails because there geared so hight but thats more important for pits and stuf
Posted by: jetmotoracer
sorry i was kind of in a hurry and didn't pay much atenchion but what im talking about with the gearing was that u only use 1 gear most of the time.... which i don't really like because then you are tether in to low of a gear or to high of a gear, but thats just my opinion, but its better when you change the front sprocket... and for the pit riding thing is i ride in big pits and need the power, but i just improvise with a sprocket change, re-jetting and momentum, just to add if hes going to be doing any jumping to make sure the tire pressure is right because if its not then u will blow out shocks like crazy... i learned that the hard way, now i can jump 3-4 feet high in 2nd gear, so i do have to say they are good jumping machines but you have to get the hang of it... but to get to the point you have to keep it in running condition, and learn to ignore sertine sounds it makes, and if you get it from raceway you get a 1 year warntey.
(p.s im 12 years old i don't have the atenchion span to spell check.
Posted by: jetmotoracer
my parents are always saying im fixing stuf that isnt broken, its relly a matter of tuneing like alot of times the cluch grinds,(hopefuly its the cluch) and that needs to be ajusted, but it still sometimes does it and you learn to icnore it after a while but i think it is because they are pretty heavy macheins. and too ground and make shure bolst are tight, same goes with the cain, and to clean the carb and air filter ( brake cleaner works good to clean carbs) and buy special cleaner for the filter and make sure you lock tight the front nuts that ajust the tires ... the word excapes me at this point but to tilt them in at the top so they slant in tward the frame more, not much tho.
Posted by: jetmotoracer
bill i have to say i agree with you.... it now sounds like im a hypicrit because in the beginning i was like i love my jm but that was when every thing worked right and didnt break when i hit the starter
Posted by: jetmotoracer
well about jumping they blow out because all the shock is put to the shocks, and iv also had them blow on a woop section and another thing is that they dont hook up at all in sand when there to hight, so you should set them at like 3 pis and now i have the back at 3 and front 4 but im also gunna dorp the front maby, but you also have to ajust the pre-load for your rider weight even now my shocks bottome out in pits but the faster you go the less it herts all i have to say is stay in shape.and alot of presure seams to mes is your weight and if you read buckaroos poast in the artic cat form section( i think) you can learn moore about tire pressure.
(p.s i was in a hurry for this one to)
Posted by: windtrader
@Jetmotoracer just to add if hes going to be doing any jumping to make sure the tire pressure is right because if its not then u will blow out shocks like crazy...
What is your experience with tire pressure? What psi do you use for different riding styles (jumping, smooth, track, rocks) and surfaces (soft even dirt, rocks, etc).
thx
Posted by: cubano222
need help---Hey Jane, I am an old Harley Davidson rider & I bought a Tornado 200 for my girl & a Hurricane 250 for me from Motorxtremes. Mike was very helpful & I received my quads in good shape. The assembly was easy & they started right up. For Chinese brands, I am pleased with these 2 quads. The Tornado 200 is fast enough & for $800, a great deal.
Good luck,
Jerry
Posted by: cubano222
Not that long ago, Japanese was crap. Harley Davidson rules.
Posted by: moroccomole2004
Ok I am sorry but that makes really no sense, "and another thing they arnt relly good for trails because there geared so hight but thats more important for pits and stuf." (spell check works wonders..)
Mine works just fine for trails but I agree that for pits and dune climbing there would be loss of power.
Here is what I don't understand, if you all hate these Chinese ATV's so much then why are you hanging out in these forums???? I might say that some of you are hypocrites in the sense that you give some good advice in working upgrades and user fixes to common and previous (very dated) problems found in these Chinese ATVs (which is likely the case with any brand of ATV).
I concur with "brca" if you are somewhat savvy in working on mechanical things then yes these Chinese brand ATVs are fine. Anything mechanical can break regardless of brand!
For those new to the ATV world what does it hurt in buying a Chinese ATV to start for extremely lower cost to feel out what type you like and you're riding style. Then perhaps later look at what you desire and upgrade.
Got my Dingo 150 and I am more then happy with it for now. I think I may even look at getting a Jetmoto 250 Sport next spring. Wow, look at that I can get 2 ATVs for the price of one higher (way over retail mark-up) brand from my local dealer.
Posted by: moroccomole2004
LOL... Your excused and you bring up the right point that you need to take care of your ride so it will take care of you...
Posted by: prowler99
I'm looking to surprise my b/f with a new atv, i've looked at honda, polaris, suzuki. i haven't seen any chinese atv. none of the dealers been to have them, but to me they all look the same, do the chinese make a good atv? help me decide which ones to buy, we'll be riding on mountains trails, what i need to know what size, what brand and why
thanks
Jane
