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Posted by: powerstroke01
Originally posted by: Montana59725
Jeffin,
I have a 9'x98" flatbed on my truck that will fit two big quads side by side with a tool box in the front so I'm good there. I definatly like the idea of storing the quads between trips in a toy hauler. If I go with a bumper pull I could still put two on the truck, a tird and the BBQ in the trailer??? Seems like there is never a problem filling extra space.
Tird's go in the toilet.
Posted by: JeffinTD
K-Z makes some nice toy haulers, as does Weekend Warrior. I personally prefer 5th wheels to pull trailers because of the way they tow and their storage, but they do push wind.
Anyhow, one of the bigger faults you will find is that not too many are wide enough in the garage to haul 2 big utes without turning them sideways.
I would start by finding out when the next big RV show is in your area. Take your digital camera and start photos of each thing that interests you with a shot of the placard that says what it is and how much. You will see so many that they will run together.
If this is your first RV, I'd highly recommend just using the RV show to get an idea of the floor plan and stuff you want, then use that info to go find a good used one.
Those things depreciate hugely in the first year or two, and almost everybody who buys their first RV decides within a year or two that what they really wanted was a kitchen slide, or bigger holding tanks, more room in the shower or whatever...
You will find a huge variation in price for units of a similar length, but when you start looking closer you will find the cheaper ones have more plastic, pressboard and particle board. Taking a drawer out and looking at the construction of the cabinetry is a good way to gauge quality (cheap ones are press board, followed by particle board, and the better ones are plywood).
Posted by: JeffinTD
Yeah, I remember that feeling. It was helpful for me to have friends who have more RV experience who were willing to go to various shows and stuff...
K-Z does make some seperate garage bumper pulls you might want to check out.
I think I did OK with my Patio Hauler, which is kind of mid quality unit (oak doors and drawer faces, but the bases are photo laminate woodgrain over particle board) but it seems sturdy and well insulated.
Myself, though, I'm hoping to get something a little bigger... and envy you for getting a dually.
Posted by: JeffinTD
P.S.
If you are going with two quads and a bumper pull, my GF's dad set his rig up with a Monster Hauler rack to carry 2 big quads over the truck bed, and he tows a 30' tow trailer.
Before seeing that Monster I hadn't been too impressed with the pickup racks, but that one is very nice, solid, and easy to use. He has a couple of advantages in that he doesn't have to turn machines sideways, and can get a monthly rate at an RV park (they are retired) and he has a way to leave the trailer at the park and take the quads for day trips to other riding areas....
With my toyhauler, I need a flatbed ATV trailer for day trips where I don't want to haul the big trailer, where he can just use his rack.
A negative would be that you would need to take the quads off the rack and make room in the garage to keep them out of the weather, where when I return I just park the 5th wheel next to the house and the quads stay in the back- locked up and out of the weather.
Anyhow, a monster rack and tow trailer might be an option worth thinking about...
Posted by: JeffinTD
BBQ'd tirds? Remind me never to come over for dinner...
Seriously, a flat bed and toy hauler might be a really nice combination. If you find you can't fit two machines side by side, you can carry one on the flatbed. Yanking 600+ pound machines around when they are half on the ramp is a blown back looking for a place to happen.
Seperate garage tow trailers aren't very common, but I do know KZ makes a few. Some folks consider the garage wasted space once the quads are out, but I find it makes a handy mud room to keep from tracking stuff into the living area, and you can also set up folding chairs and a card table and make a nice open area to relax or whatever.
Also, I don't know where you live, but if you go camping where it gets down into the 20's I think not heating that extra area at night does a lot to make the propane and batteries last longer.
Posted by: DesertViper
I like the floor plan for that one with the seperate garage that loads from the side. It would keep you from having to turn the quads sideways by hand. One other thing to think about on the seperate garage is that they have their plus and minus'. The biggest advantage is that if you are traveling somewhere too far away to get there in one day you do not have to unload your toys to be able to fold the beds down for sleeping. The big advantage of not having the separate garage is that you can fit more toys inside. Our 37' Dune Chaser fifth wheel can fit our Rhino, our Grizzly 700, and three dirt bikes inside, which would not be possible with the seperate garage.
I would also recommend getting one of the better quality toy haulers out there. We had a Weekend Warrior before, and now have the Dune Chaser by Mckenzie. The Dune Chaser has required far less upkeep; everything works as good as it did when we first got it three years ago. The Warrior always seemed to be blowing a tire on the highway, had the water heater self igniter quit working several times, batteries not holding a charge and needing replaced, etc., etc., etc. It was always something.
Posted by: Montana59725
I'm looking at getting my first camper/toy hauler and need some advice for what to look for and what to avoid. Have been thinking a bumper pull but like the idea of a divider wall between the toy box and the living area. Definatly want to keep the wind resistance as low as possible. I will be pulling it with a 2005 Dodge cummins 3500 dually so not to worried about having enough truck for a very reasonable size trailer. The quads would be 2 Polaris Sportsmans and sleeping 4 people. Please let me know what you have found as faults to watch for and options that have become necessities.
Posted by: Montana59725
Jeffin,
Thanks for the information, was just a t a small show and was blown away a 33ft 5th wheel was only $2500 more that a 25ft bumper pull. Closer inspection showed the difference, like you said cabinets and the high gloss gel coat. Man this is more confusing than buying my house LOL.
Posted by: Montana59725
Jeffin,
I have a 9'x98" flatbed on my truck that will fit two big quads side by side with a tool box in the front so I'm good there. I definatly like the idea of storing the quads between trips in a toy hauler. If I go with a bumper pull I could still put two on the truck, a tird and the BBQ in the trailer??? Seems like there is never a problem filling extra space.
Posted by: Montana59725
LMAO
Posted by: quadog
Try this one!!
Posted by: quadog
That side loader holds 4 full size quads (2 up / 2 down) with its hydraulic lift. The motorized ramp door converts to a screen room/ tent that creates a 10x18 party room or extra bedroom. Pretty cool!
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Posted by: spinon4
We have a 36' KZ sportsman sportster 5th wheel and LOVE IT! We can get both our 4-wheelers in the back. The cargo space is nice size, and we have a wall between the kitchen and "garage". I didn't want to smell fumes while I was in the living room. Even if we don't take the ATVs it's great for the dog kennels and also to sit in if it's raining outside - we just pull the screen door down over the opening. If my husband takes it hunting all the mud can be left in the cargo area and not get tracked into the living space.
You might want to make sure the one you select has a fueling station in it. We never run out of gas in the 4-wheelers when we're out and about. (I even use it in a pinch for the lawn mower at home).
Your truck will pull it with ease. We have a 1-ton Silverado crew cab and it does a great job.
Happy shopping!
