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Posted by: fourlix
What you are describing, using a pop up in the middle, would be at least 22 feet long, plus tongue. That's a lot of trailer for an SUV. 8 feet in front to side load two quads, a seven foot pop up that folds out on each side, and 7 feet to end load two more...interesting idea, and low profile, which cuts wind resistance, improves gas mileage. Empty and dry it would weigh at least 3,000 lbs. add 4 sport quads, 1600 lbs, add fuel, water, gear, etc. total about 6,000 lbs. That is gonna bust an SUV. But I like the idea. How about a half-ton pickup with one quad in the back? Now your trailer is down to 18 feet, with one quad side loaded in front of the pop up.
Posted by: fourlix
I would strongly recommend not pulling 6,000 lbs with a vehicle rated for pulling 6,000 lbs. What you are describing will weigh about 6,000 lbs with water, fuel, groceries and gear.
There needs to be a safety factor, margin of error, whatever you want to call it. I've been right where you are now, with a Yukon pulling a travel trailer, and wanting to take my quads with me. I lunched two transmissions in that Yukon. I finally listened, and got a proper tow vehicle, a Ford Superduty 250 with a V-10 and tow package. It is rated for towing 11,000 lbs, and I wouldn't think of towing anything close to that. My 26FS Attitude with all quads, water, fuel, gear, groceries comes in under 8,000, I think. I've never actually weighed it, but it is a good match. I can get 17mpg with just the truck, pulling the big load I get about 7mpg. Pulling my flat bed trailer with a heavy load I get about 12 mpg, the difference would have to be wind resistance, so your idea, which is a lot like the Scorpion model linked above, still has a lot of merit. Also depends a lot on where you camp/ride. Pop ups are great in good weather, but they suck if it is really hot or really cold.
I have friends that pull a utility trailer behind their fifth wheel. Now we are talking BIG truck, diesel one ton. But what a nice set up.
Posted by: fourlix
sliding axles....lift mechanisms.....equals weight. Double decker equals more wind resistance.
Keep it simple, keep it low, keep it light. And you are still going to need a truck to haul 4 quads and a camper.
Posted by: fourlix
Let's add this up. I built a super light utility trailer, tandem 3500 lb axles, 14 x6'6", that only weighed 800 lbs. I pulled three quads to Pismo and back with my Nissan Pathfinder, rated for 3500 lbs. No problem. No extra gear or equipment. A grizzly, DS, and a Raptor. SO about 2500 lbs. plus a family of four and luggage.
You need at least 20 feet, and you are planning on carrying twice as much, so the best you can do is maybe 1200 lbs for the trailer chassis. A camper, sans axles, is going to weigh another 1200 lbs at least. Four sport quads x 400 lbs is 1600 lbs. gear, groceries, some water (9lbs/gallon x 50 gallons is 540 lbs) so call that 1,000 lbs. That adds up to at least 5,000 lbs. IF your rig is rated for 7,000+ lbs. you could do it. But one remaining question you asked at first was....My wife has to like it. Is she going to like it? I used to have a WW superlite 21. I got 4 quads into it on one occasion, three was easy. A friend of mine pulls his WW superlite with his 1/2 ton Avalanche, no problem. Heavy Half ton pickup pulling one of these, with one quad in the bed would answer your needs....And your wife would like it. Genset, A/C, nice bathroom and galley, furnace, big fridge, hot or cold weather, no canvas rotting away, pretty big tanks. Nice.
Posted by: fourlix
Now that's an SUV. Nice.
Posted by: Ritthjp
I bought a 2006 Keystone Hobbi HB260 (biggest one they make). Dealership told me it was 1/2 towable. I've got a 2002 F-150 Crewcab 4x4 5.4 triton and it pulls ok empty, but when I put 4 quads in it w/gear and such it gets unstable. I purchased it at Pontiac RV in Pontiac, IL and am pretty unhappy with it. the laminate on the bathroom walls are separating, the lining on the ceiling is buckling. A couple of the cabinet doors fell off.
I'm actually pretty disgusted with it.
Posted by: Scootergptx
Welcome to the forums, Shootecogo.
First would need to know how many are you going to haul. I have a Weekend Warrior Super Lite. 21 feet, and it will hold two, driven straight in. Dry weight is 4400 on the trailer, but always take the weights given with a grain of salt.
Second, what is the tow rating on the SUV you have.
Posted by: Scootergptx
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Originally posted by: themartinz
Scooter...let me ask you... is there any way to fit two sports side by side in your Super Lite? I would ultimately need to get four sports into a toyhuler, and I know the lites are 6 inches narrower.
You can, but in mine, it would only hold three.
Posted by: Scootergptx
I looked at a couple of the "garage" trailers and found the living quarters to be very cramped. Of course I was only looking at models that were under 26 feet, so that may have been why.
Shootecogo, it sounds like you're looking for something that's gonna be too much for your suv to haul.
Can you talk the wife into a new/used heavy duty pickup and a 5th wheel?
If you can, does she have a sister?
Posted by: Scootergptx
Have you looked at the Scorpion?
I looked at those, but the wife is short, and her feet wouldn't touch the floor when sitting on the bed. (couldn't put her shoes on) BR>
They're light enough you could pull them, the deck is big enough for 4 quads and it also makes a nice patio when the quads are unloaded.
Posted by: Scootergptx
I looked at a 2005 model, and I thought it was big enough. But, for the price they wanted, I got the WW for 1000 more.
Still, I did like the deck area. Make a great party patio, provided you didn't fall off.
Posted by: Scootergptx
Finally tracked down a site that gave the deck size.
Rear Deck is 105" X 96"
From this dealer.
Looks like another one that would hold 3, but not 4.
Posted by: Scootergptx
Can't remember where I saw it, but someone has made their own trailer like that.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo As Fourlix mentioned there are a few states that allow doubles in non-commercial vehicles. Not many folks have much experience pulling them and it is seldom you will find anyone who can back one up.
I don't think you can back them up more than a few feet. I'm considering adding a trailer to pull the Rhino to the rear of the toy hauler we're looking at. I can get two drag banshees in the hauler, the DS in the bed of the truck and we have a 10 foot trailer the Rhino would fit in. Just have to check the laws in MO, IL and OK.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: Briman
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
I saw a TT made by Salem and another called Wildwood, same manufacturer, that had a side loading garage with a hoist already in it. You drive in two quads, tie them down, raise the lift, drive in two more and tie them down. Don't know what happened but they are not listed in their catalog this year. Maybe they quit making them. You might find one used though.
And I agree with the other guys that you going to exceed your tow vehicles capability. Be careful.
By the way, anyone looking for a lightweight trailer should take a look at the Tritons. I've looked at them and they are really well made.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
I have just never seen a great solution for me to haul 3 quads, a rhino and have the convenience of an RV all wrapped up in one. So far, the best bet I've had is my 28 foot enclosed and just stay at a motel. We usually just rent a house when we go to Waynoka to ride.
By the way, we didn't buy the Salem with the lift because of the weight distribution problem. That kind of scared me too.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: JeffinTD
3 quads, a Rhino and an RV would be a tough combo... I'd be thinking 4500 Chevy or F450 Ford, with a monster rack and two quads above the bed, pulling a bumper pull toy hauler with the Rhino and other quad?
I've thought about buying a Cyclone with the separate garage and then pulling the small trailer with the Rhino on it. Thats sure a long rig though.
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: JeffinTD
3 quads, a Rhino and an RV would be a tough combo... I'd be thinking 4500 Chevy or F450 Ford, with a monster rack and two quads above the bed, pulling a bumper pull toy hauler with the Rhino and other quad?
I've thought about buying a Cyclone with the separate garage and then pulling the small trailer with the Rhino on it. Thats sure a long rig though.
Well, I think it's fairly obvious the solution is a Freightliner Columbia with a 53' dry van that has a lift gate on the back. Weight becomes a non-issue and you have plenty of room to build in a small apartment and still haul all your quads and a boat. The Columbia cab has plenty of room for all passengers, two dogs and a goat. Fuel milage with this light a load should run around 6 MPG which should be acceptable. Of course it would also work to pull a set of doubles, say two 26' trailers. One built as a living area and the other as a toy hauler. That way if you just wanted to go riding you wouldn't have to take the house with you. hr>
See? This man is thinking!
Posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: JeffinTD
This, and a trailer,and you would be all set...
That thing has to be ridiculously expensive. Don't you think they could at least throw in some graphics?
Posted by: Scooter86
I guess the sporties aren't considered full size to those outside the sport? I for one am glad I didn't get any extra poundage. Again though, what suv do you own and what is it speced out at for towing?
Posted by: tencubed
The big question in this discussion has not really been addressed. What is the capacity of the towing vehicle(s)? If you exceed the capacity the tow rig is rated at you are putting yourself and others at risk not only physically but financially as well. The individual axle ratings as well as the combination ratings must be followed as well as the towing vehicles gross ratings. This is as the combination is when it hits the road. All fuel, passengers and gear.
The only way to get the weight of a trailer is to weigh it. I have never had a travel trailer or fiver that weighed what the manufacturer said it did. They have always weighed more. I have also never had a small truck, anything under one ton rated, that would handle what it is rated for in a safe and reasonable fashion. Cars and SUVs have an even worse track record than small trucks. Many SUVs have such a short wheelbase that towing a trailer is problematic at best when hard braking and avoidance steering is needed.
If you are in an accident and the issue of weight is brought up your insurance company can drop you like a hot rock if you have exceeded any of the ratings. More and more police are looking at overweight when combinations are involved in accidents.
If you want to safely tow a heavy load get a rig capable of doing it safely. Shortcuts don't work. If the cost of the equipment is too high than consider used stuff or wait till you can do it right. Just because someone has towed an ocean-liner with a row boat doesn't mean it's a good idea and should become acceptable practice.
Posted by: tencubed
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Ok ok, so I don't get any more lectures heres some info: 12,000 GCWR, 6000# max trailer weight.
My post was not intended to be a lecture but rather a too the point observation of a problem way too many folks do not consider when hooking their rig up to a trailer. There are so many variables of what makes a trailer an easy to control delight to tow or a monster lashed to the back of your rig it is difficult to enumerate them all. Not that I know all the answers but I can guarantee you I have made a lot of the mistakes. Overloading is one of the real major problems. Speed is the other major killer. When pulling a combination you need to travel at an easily controlled speed.
Really sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Posted by: tencubed
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Nope, not at all. Just giving some more info to try and get an idea of what I want to do. The reasons I am thinking of doing it myself, is that I haven't found a manufacturer who offers a unit that can haul 4 quads and still be under 7000# loaded. It seems to me like I can build my own that will haul 4 and be under 7000#.
Apparently you are planning on using a tow vehicle with a greater listed tow rating than the information you gave. The 7000# loaded weight is half a ton more than the maximum trailer weight you mentioned. If you are going to 7000# you will need a hitch rated for a minimum of 700# tongue weight to stay around the 10% rule. Of course if you can lighten the weight to the mentioned 6000# maximum weight then you can do with a 600# hitch weight. This brings up an interesting thought, what is the maximum allowed weight on the rear axle of the tow vehicle? If you add 600# to the hitch you will be adding more than that to the rear axle. With everyone on board how will the axle weight come out.
As Fourlix mentioned there are a few states that allow doubles in non-commercial vehicles. Not many folks have much experience pulling them and it is seldom you will find anyone who can back one up.
Posted by: tencubed
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Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: Briman
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
I saw a TT made by Salem and another called Wildwood, same manufacturer, that had a side loading garage with a hoist already in it. You drive in two quads, tie them down, raise the lift, drive in two more and tie them down. Don't know what happened but they are not listed in their catalog this year. Maybe they quit making them. You might find one used though.
And I agree with the other guys that you going to exceed your tow vehicles capability. Be careful.
By the way, anyone looking for a lightweight trailer should take a look at the Tritons. I've looked at them and they are really well made.
Saw a short thread in another forum about those trailers with the lift in them. Apparently the load was far enough back that they were having sever problems with a tail heavy trailer. Sounds like it would work if it had a sliding axle set under it to balance the trailer when loaded or empty. Sure can see where with a fixed axle set the tongue would be really heavy when the four quads were not in it.
Posted by: tencubed
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Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: JeffinTD
3 quads, a Rhino and an RV would be a tough combo... I'd be thinking 4500 Chevy or F450 Ford, with a monster rack and two quads above the bed, pulling a bumper pull toy hauler with the Rhino and other quad?
I've thought about buying a Cyclone with the separate garage and then pulling the small trailer with the Rhino on it. Thats sure a long rig though.
Well, I think it's fairly obvious the solution is a Freightliner Columbia with a 53' dry van that has a lift gate on the back. Weight becomes a non-issue and you have plenty of room to build in a small apartment and still haul all your quads and a boat. The Columbia cab has plenty of room for all passengers, two dogs and a goat. Fuel milage with this light a load should run around 6 MPG which should be acceptable. Of course it would also work to pull a set of doubles, say two 26' trailers. One built as a living area and the other as a toy hauler. That way if you just wanted to go riding you wouldn't have to take the house with you.
Posted by: buck183
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Originally posted by: Briman
Here's a floorplan and brand of the one I'm talking about. It would be nice to keep the inside smelling good, and clean, and keep the atvs outside where they belong "according to my wife". It is right at 5000 lbs. It comes standard with alot of nice features and seems well built. Text
Pretty useless for the money IMO too. Why bother for know more than you can carry with it?
I have been looking heavily at them for several months now. I have yet to find anyone that makes something to fit my needs.
Needs to hold a minimum of four full sized quads. More than likely sport quads.
Sleep at least six.
Has enough overhead clearance to haul a Rhino if needed.
Everyone I talk to seems to think I'm an idiot when I give them those requirements. One dealer said you couldn't put that many quads in one due to load limitations. He said I could put more than 2,500 lbs in it and four quads would exceed that number. I told him my four quads would be well under that weight. He said it wasn't possible to have four full sized quads weigh less than that.
I feel like I'm peeing up a rope sometimes.
Buck
Posted by: JeffinTD
One other thing that hasn't been mentioned...
Be careful with the published trailer capacity for the vehicle. Usually it is based on the gross combined weight rating minus the curb weight of the vehicle with no accessories and only about 160 pounds worth of driver.
If you carry passengers, camping gear, food, tools or whatever in the tow vehicle, the weight of the trailer you can tow without going over the GCWR will be reduced by the same weight...
Also, the published weight of vehicles and RV's tends to be way optimistically light...
Posted by: JeffinTD
3 quads, a Rhino and an RV would be a tough combo... I'd be thinking 4500 Chevy or F450 Ford, with a monster rack and two quads above the bed, pulling a bumper pull toy hauler with the Rhino and other quad?
Posted by: JeffinTD
This, and a trailer,and you would be all set...
Posted by: JeffinTD
Well they aren't cheap, but from the ones I've seen that lists a price, they might not be as bad as you would think...
Go to an RV show and look at some of the $300,000 to $500,000 motorhomes, it seems to me you would get a whole lot more for your money with a class 8 truck conversion...
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/rvs/files/RVTruckConversion0.html
Posted by: JeffinTD
Let us know how you like it. Years ago I looked at a wildwood, and it was pretty inexpensive... I think the new ones are better, and a side loader really makes sense.
Posted by: Briman
Go to this website and do a search. They have a toy hauler category. I like one a dealer in Wisconsin has for only $13,800. It has a deck in the front that holds 2 atvs. Text There is also the kind where you drive them into the back but I'm leaning towards the deck ones. They are all around the 4000 lb range for the smaller ones. Brian
Posted by: Briman
Here's a floorplan and brand of the one I'm talking about. It would be nice to keep the inside smelling good, and clean, and keep the atvs outside where they belong "according to my wife". It is right at 5000 lbs. It comes standard with alot of nice features and seems well built. Text
Posted by: Briman
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Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
Posted by: themartinz
I am in a similar boat. I really want a toy hauler, and I have an Expedition right now. I don't want to plop the money down now for a 3/4 ton heavy duty truck. I have narrowed my choices down to one of the lights...either Weekend warrior, Extreme, Ragen, or my favorite...the Nitrous Hyperlite. Weekend warrior owns Ragen and even Extreme...but extreme has a really cool wrap-around dinette. The Nitrous is the only lite with Gel-coat finish and comes with an air compressor and has a really nice fit and finish. I think the Extreme is lighter than any of the other lites. I have them all save in my favorites in internet explorer while I ponder the decision.
Basically, the lites come in sizes from 19 to 27...the 27's usually have a front bedroom. You actually get more storage in a 23 with a front kitchen, then a 27 with a front bedroom.
What you can ultimately tow depends on your vehicle and GVWR of the toy hauler. If you have a small SUV...you will max out with a small toy hauler...18 or 19. If you have a full size SUV (unless it is a Excursion) you will still have to get a lite, but can go up to 27'. If you are pulling with a 1500 Chevy...and pull a lot, stand by for a transmission overhaul. The current 1500 GMC trannies are junk if you tax them a lot.
Scooter...let me ask you... is there any way to fit two sports side by side in your Super Lite? I would ultimately need to get four sports into a toyhuler, and I know the lites are 6 inches narrower.
Posted by: radejr
Buddies dad has a Expedition he went and rented a car trailer. He drove a about 3 hr drive picked up a 3/4ton truck towed it home 3 hr drive without any problems. I don't see 4 wheelers being a problem.
Posted by: LaPurr
That was me with the snowmobile trailer. I haul 2 atvs on mine, but I have space to haul 3 if needed (one sideways on the front or back). You can pick them up fairly reasonable, they are usually drive on and drive off types, are really light, and can tow a nice amount. For example, mine weighs in at a total of 1200 lbs with trailer, and quads. If you want to stay light, see what you can find in this market..
Posted by: LaPurr
Nope I didnt do that, Would probly be to much tounge weight for most mid size SUV's. My cars towing capacity is 2000 lbs, so I cant do much more.
I dont see why you couldnt do it if you have it balanced out properly. I dont think you are going to be able to put it on the front of the trailer, but rather the middle over the axle or just in front of the axle, and then put 1-2 ATV's in front of it, and 1-2 behind it. The tounge weights, and towing capacity is what comes into play here, especially if you have a unibody vehicle.
Posted by: LaPurr
Here ya go, it sleeps 4 in the sleeping area, and carrys 4 quads. Or if you use a split level partition in the carrying area, it goes from 4 people, to ??, or 8 or more quads. Shower, fridge, freezer, microwave, hot water heater, gets 11+ mpg loaded, and its a automatic!!
Other site!!
Posted by: ctateusa1
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Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
thats a good idea, the thing with it is that when you see it on a truck bed, very scary. I saw one last year and the height with the lift up to clear a quad and a quad on top will not be under low hanging power lines and some underpasses. keep that in mind when you rig this up, maybe a better way to do it is with a hand winch like a boat uses andhave it pivot up to the height you want and sit up.
Posted by: quadog
I am picking up a leftover 06 Wildwood 30fbsrv on June 30th for 19,400. It is the one with the dual level garage in the rear. I hope the rear weight isn't a real big problem. I will be hauling a bf 750 & a rancher most of the time. I also haul a recon sometimes. Hope to haul 4 quads when I need to. I will be pulling it with a F350 flat bed that I sometimes haul 2 quads on also. Copy & paste to see it rvwholesalers wildwood 30fbsrv
Posted by: Shootecogo
Does anyone tow a toy hauler with an suv? I'd like to fine one that hauls 4 wheelers, but isn't so heavy that my suv can't pull it decently. Also needs to be nice enough inside to keep the wife happy. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Shootecogo
Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Posted by: Shootecogo
Now wouldn't that be nice. I had a hard enough time convincing her to get a trailer in the first place. So I'm prety much stuck with what I've got. What about this idea. I have a 20' 4 plave snowmobile trailer and Iwas thinking of mounting an 8' pop up camper sideways on the front of it. That would be light enough and easy to tow, but still give me room to sleep 6 and haul 4 wheelers. Any thoughts???
Posted by: Shootecogo
It doesn't seem like the deck is big enough for 4 full sized utility machines? I haven't been able to find one that is big enough that was the reason I thought to fabricate my own on a big enough trailer.
Posted by: Shootecogo
Thanks for the heads up, I was considering buying one of those trailers. Now I will have to re look at my options. Has anybody made there own Scorpion type trailer by using a snowmobile trailer and pop up camper??? It doesn't seem like it would be to hard to do, and then I could get the size I need and still be light enough.
Posted by: Shootecogo
Do you have a camper mounted on your trailer? I already have a snowmobile trailer in the neighborhood of 20' long. Looking for someone who has made their own toy hauler by mounting a pop up camper to a snowmobile trailer.
Posted by: Shootecogo
I was planning to end load all wheelers, two from the front and two from the rear. My trailer is already a drive on/off style. The way I figure the weight is 1200 for the pop up(stripped of tounge, axles and bumpers), 2500 for the 4 quads, and 1300 for the trailer. That puts me at 5000 minus any gear. My SUV should be able to handle that load. I ve had the same trailer loaded with 6 quads and 1 in the back of a half ton truck and I didn't even know the trailer was there.
Posted by: Shootecogo
Ok ok, so I don't get any more lectures heres some info: 12,000 GCWR, 6000# max trailer weight.
Posted by: Shootecogo
Nope, not at all. Just giving some more info to try and get an idea of what I want to do. The reasons I am thinking of doing it myself, is that I haven't found a manufacturer who offers a unit that can haul 4 quads and still be under 7000# loaded. It seems to me like I can build my own that will haul 4 and be under 7000#.
Posted by: KFX400Jay
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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
Finally tracked down a site that gave the deck size.
Rear Deck is 105" X 96"
From this dealer.
Looks like another one that would hold 3, but not 4.
That is the deck size on the Scorpion S2 the S1 has an 8ft x 12ft deck. I also have been in the same situation looking around at some toy haulers. I was trying to find something light enough i could tow with my wagon but still had room for the quads a bathroom and shower and a little sleep area for the 4 of us. The Scorpion looks nice but at 15k for a popup trailer with so so amenities i am not sure. I found this trailer the other day
Pace Explorer
It is basically a box trailer that has the amenities added into it. the biggest one with the two 5000lb axles starts at 14,900. I would rather spend that kind of money on something like this then the pop up Fleetwood. For right now i think i am just going to look for a basic box trailer for hauling and wait til the kids are old enough to go along then jsut upgrade to a truck and something like the WW. Its so hard to buy anything anymore as you can't really get the good service. Most dealers will sell you anything even if you can't pull it. Really need to use the internet and look around. Go to some sites like RV.net and talk to people and see what they say.
Posted by: tes3
I don't have a toy trailer as yet but I do tow with an SUV, a 2004 Avalanch, it has a 8100 Vortec and can pull just about anything.
Today I found a trailer that I am interested in, a 2000 Dunes. It really fits all my needs but I am not sure of the the value being that it is $9500.00. It looks like it can sleep 2 and carry a couple ATV to boot!
Any ideas?
Tom
Posted by: drewfromden
the Fleetwood Nitrous Hyperlite.
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