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Posted by: Scootergptx

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Originally posted by: raidermike67
I think he's talking about the small pickups, I do agree the Nissans and Toyota's are of better quality then the Ranger.


Had a 78 SR5 that had almost 500k on it when I got rid of it. Now my Ranger has 200k on it. Might depend on how they're taken care of to determine how long they last.

Posted by: Scootergptx

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Originally posted by: squeege
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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
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Originally posted by: raidermike67


Had a 78 SR5 that had almost 500k on it when I got rid of it. Now my Ranger has 200k on it. Might depend on how they're taken care of to determine how long they last.



You are setting some records there 4 sure!


I guess I should wise up. I've bought the wife 4 different vehicles since I bought the Ranger.

Posted by: Scootergptx

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Originally posted by: squeege
I whip the tar out of all my cars...the brand new 96' quad-4 grand-am made it to 50,000 mile B-4 scattering the engine.....the subaru had 129,000 on it B4 I bought it....now has 180,000 hard miles and still spins like a Top!


Went through 3 heads in our quad 4. First 2 were under warranty, 3rd one was out of my pocket. Traded it in with, you guessed it, a blown head.

Posted by: Scootergptx

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Originally posted by: raidermike67

My worst luck has been with freaking TIRES....could have set up a tire shop in my garage with the number of tires I've had to replace on both car, truck, trailer and ATV's.....


I hear ya on that. Had two flats, in two weeks. Both on Thursday. Seriously considered not working on Thursday anymore.

Tires and filters, I should have bought stock in some of those companies.

Posted by: Scootergptx

I about crapped when I bought a new tire for the trailer. Thankfully, haven't had to buy any more for it, yet. Still, a lot cheaper than the tires on the motorhome we had.

Posted by: tencubed

I have a 2002 S-10 4 cyl and use it to haul my quad all the time. Works well and I have had no problems with it. I quite often tow a trailer with a load in the truck at the same time. Not a powerhouse for sure but if you shift down, I have the standard tranny, and take it easy the truck will do the job.

With something over 60,000 miles on it the truck gives 23 to 25 MPG doing the speed limit with the Prairie in the bed.

Posted by: LittleBill



realize the 4 cyl in the pickup is the same motor in the cavalier, actually the lower end motor in the cav 2.2l. about 130 hp at the crank, your lookin at 116 at the wheels??? it not a power house, but the motor is rock solid, i beat the sh*t out of my cav and it does its job, but i would have issues with more then 2k behind it

Posted by: raidermike67

I had a Nissan Frontier 2.4 litre and hauled a quad in the back and on a trailer with no problems, 5 speed, but it was a bit sluggish in the hills, might not be a bad idea to put new/upgraded brakes on when you get it, you're at about this trucks limits but should handle it just fine, gonna be a slow go up any serious mtns though.

I'm actually considering putting a tow bar on my Saturn, I can haul just one quad and save a LOT of gas but it sure is nice having my Ram pickup when going up and down the hills/mtns, hardly can tell you are hauling/towing.

Posted by: raidermike67

I think he's talking about the small pickups, I do agree the Nissans and Toyota's are of better quality then the Ranger.

Posted by: raidermike67

See if you can get it for a little less....I sold an 02 Frontier last year with 6 months left on the warranty for 7800. FWIW

Posted by: raidermike67

Had a 78 SR5 that had almost 500k on it when I got rid of it. Now my Ranger has 200k on it. Might depend on how they're taken care of to determine how long they last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think thats pretty safe to say about almost anything now days....

Posted by: raidermike67

MAYBE it's just good luck but of the new vehicles I've boughten none have ever really had problems. First Nissan pickup I bought the front brakes started to vibrate, they fixed with no problems and it never reoccured. My 02 Frontier had a loose cab mount that was fixed at the dealer the day after I brought it home.....94 Saturn never saw a shop until about 120,000 miles and only for what ended up being a sensor in the cooling system that cost hardly anything.......I've had three Saturns that have never seen a dealers shop. I'm pretty responsible in that I keep up on maintenance and can do some general repairs (at least on some older cars/trucks, don't belts, hoses, alternator's, starters etc...no internal engine work).

My worst luck has been with freaking TIRES....could have set up a tire shop in my garage with the number of tires I've had to replace on both car, truck, trailer and ATV's.....

Posted by: raidermike67

hear ya on that. Had two flats, in two weeks. Both on Thursday. Seriously considered not working on Thursday anymore.>>>>>>>>

Past year:

Replaced on tire on my 89 F150 with spare, just this spring had to replace all four tires.
Brand new Saturn, 2,000 miles, blow out on the freeway....$150 tire.
Bought a trailer, both tires seperated bringing it home, replaced both.
Had a PT Cruiser, slow leaks in three tires, three cans of slime later kinda fixed it.

ATV's:
Brand new Rincon......maybe 6 hours, had to replace both front tires, multiple plugs in each.
Outlander 330, replaced both front tires, had multiple plugs in each, on rear had a nail in it, left it alone never leaked.


Posted by: JDQuadRider

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Originally posted by: kickass210
well if ur going to buy a sm pickup why buy an american when the japs are so far superior. like toyota!


I still don't hear a reason to support this claim. I'd still buy a chevy full-size truck over an equivalent Jap truck.

Posted by: squeege

The s-10's with the 2.8L V6 are pretty good quality...at least till bout 120,000 mile ...then not so much...

Posted by: squeege

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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
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Originally posted by: raidermike67


Had a 78 SR5 that had almost 500k on it when I got rid of it. Now my Ranger has 200k on it. Might depend on how they're taken care of to determine how long they last.



You are setting some records there 4 sure!



Posted by: squeege

I whip the tar out of all my cars...the brand new 96' quad-4 grand-am made it to 50,000 mile B-4 scattering the engine.....the subaru had 129,000 on it B4 I bought it....now has 180,000 hard miles and still spins like a Top!

Posted by: ATVrider89

I have been looking for a pick-up truck now for about a month and fianlly got off my a$$ and looked around yesterday and heres what I found:
2001 Chevy S10 Standard Cab Long Box
4 banger, 8 valve
Almost 68,000 miles
Automatic
No wierd noises/knocks/ticks

Things it needs:
Tires (good sidewall but low tread)
New passenger side mirror
Tail gate is frozen up
Leaking power steering fluid

They wanted $5,995 but I got them down to $4,995 after pointing out all that was wrong

What do you guys think, comments/suggestions, I know it sounds like a small truck but I need something fuel efficient and cheap for work and to throw my quad in?

Posted by: ATVrider89

Forgot to say that I DIDN'T BUY IT YET! And kickass 210 whats wrong with american?

Posted by: ATVrider89

Yea the motor is small but, I was looking for the 4 cuz I plan to take it up north so I need something efficient, solid, and reliable, the biggest load it would ever carry is 2 quads (one on back and one on a small utility trailer). Other than that I might move my lawn tractor, or maybee a couple snowblowers.

Posted by: ATVrider89

Well here is the deal, my options are open, it's just that the nicer, low mileage, trucks that are in good shape in my price range are all s-10's, from looking around lots this weekend I found 2 more s-10's and one ranger that I'm interested in. They all seem to be in the same price range (5-7k) and have somewhat clos mileage (56k-71k). Now I've also deciaded to look for a truck with somewhat of a warranty, I don't think "as is" would be the way to go.

Posted by: ATVrider89

Saw a nice one yesterday,
2000 S10
4 banger, automatic
toneau cover and duraliner
new tires
strobe lights and tints
56,125 miles
new belts
needs nothing!!! clean!!!
$7,100

Posted by: ATVrider89

My dad needs all 4 new tires on his truck, were talking $600 for new tires, but hell I'd say he got his moneys worth outa his stock tires, 51,500 miles off the stock BFG's on a 1 ton truck.

Posted by: SafetySean

Okay...over the years I have had 6 Toyota pickups for company pickups. They have ranged from Tacomas, T-100s & lastly a Tundra. They were all used for construction and were all high milers. Our company policy was that you replaced your truck at 300,000km (whether you wanted to or not). No complaints with any of the trucks. They all performed near flawlessly over the years and aside from routine maintenance and the abuse that they were subjected to there was no major work required other than brakes, exhausts, oil changes, etc - never any motor work. I remember when I traded the last Tacoma on the Tundra...287,000km...the salesman took the truck for a test ride & was gone a real long time. Upon his return I asked what took him so long and he explained that he had been driving over progressively worse dirt roads trying to find a rattle in the truck. Basically they cleaned it up and put it on the lot the next day. I should explain that the company I spent 20 years with owned a bunch of car dealerships but it was always Toyota for construction use.

Now the flip side...

I now work for a company where I have to have my own vehicle - no travel involved. I went out & bought the cheapest new truck I could find - 05 Ranger, std shift, 2wd, 3.0V6. Boy do I wish I had sprung for another Toyota. While there is nothing wrong with the truck it just plain sucks - hard on gas, uncomfortable, has a hard time towing 1 quad at h/way speeds, just uninspiring. But then again it is a very dependable machine with a rock solid motor & drivetrain.

Anyway man if you can find yourself a Tacoma, T-100 or Tundra in your price range - buy it cuz you won't be disappointed.

Posted by: 2xSurvivr

I've been thinking along similar lines, how great it would be to have a truck bed to haul one quad, but also be able to tow when you need to. I pull a trailer and two quads usually although I'm rigging my trailer to take three. I think that totals up to about 3000 lbs, which is all your S10 is rated with a 4 cylinder.

I use a 94 Honda Passport V6, rated at 4500, and it has to drop a gear on the hills, but keeps on pulling. I've been thinking about a Ranger with a V6, with a similar tow capacity, which I think might be able to haul one in the back as well as tow 3 quads. But still get closer to 20 mpg unloaded. Maybe I'm dreaming. But what I'm saying is think about the max it will tow. If you're sure you'll "never" need to tow more than a second quad, then the 4 cylinder sounds good. But if you might want to tow more than 3000 (which includes whatever load, including people, that's in your truck), you may want to think about a V6.

Ford Ranger is the same as a Mazda, since 1994 I think. No, Mazda isn't Toyota, but you don't have to pay some overblown price for the Toyota name, either. Sure, I'd rather have a Toyota truck, but for twice the price?

Posted by: LaPurr

Sounds like a good find, and the price is not bad. Miles are spot on!! Those 2.2 4cyl run forever I swear. We totalled out our 93 cavi with that motor in it. Still ran and drove as it went to the junk yard. 292,389 miles on the clock. If we hadnt been T-boned, we would probly still be driving it.

Posted by: LaPurr

I will say the Toyota is a reliably built truck. And so are the American counter parts (for the most part). No matter who builds what, there are going to be downsides to everything. Buying a GM product is a good idea to me (when under warenty) because if something does break, I can always find a GM dealer, same with Dorf and Dodge. Toyota isnt a name that is found in every city. Same with Nissan. I would probly buy a Subaru over a GM product (again under warenty) because of their rules regarding breakdowns. They will tow you, at their charge, to the closest Subaru dealer. Nissan and Toyota do not do that. And I do find that Subarus are more reliable then most any other make out there. Not bad considering they were half owned by GM, and now Half owned by Toyota.

Man its hard to say that, I am a GM fan at heart. But lets keep it to the topic at hand guys. He is wanting information about him posibly buying a Chevy S-10. He doesnt want 3rd-leg swinging over why Japs/Dorf/Dodge is better then what he is looking at. He wants the pros and cons of this particular truck.


Posted by: kickass210

its an american truck, what were u thinkin?

Posted by: kickass210

well if ur going to buy a sm pickup why buy an american when the japs are so far superior. like toyota!

Posted by: kickass210

telling as a person who was the second guy on trade ins at a toyota dealership that way to much. in 2002 which is 4 yrs ago. u could get an eddie buer explorer. for 8 k. low mileage the whole 9 yards. american trucks. u can get at auction real cheap. 7100 for an s-10, thats almost 7 yrs old is just stealing money. all small gm trucks and fords. and dodges, are fleet vechiles. behind the japs in its class. if u need proof just google it. I'm not trying to be mean. or anti american. just honest on what I know, and have learned. anything more than 2k for the truck is to much.

Posted by: beisel1111

I would go with a standard transmission if I was buying a 4 cyl.

Posted by: Oloff700efi

Ford Rangers are dirt cheap and tuff. The Vulcan 3.0 liter is okay, the 2.3liter is low on power but will last 300K easy. The 4.0 liter is a German engineered V6 that flat out hauls the mail. The 4.0 will get 20 mpg in 2WD versions only.

Take 2-3 mpg off all these listed engines when going to a 4WD model.

If I had 7K or less to spend on a truck I'd buy a used Chevy full sized with the 4.3 V6 this will get you 20+ mpg down the highway in standard cab 4WD versions. The five speeds are a little weak but you don't have the HP/TQ to hurt them.

Fords and Dodges always get the worst gas milage out of the big Tree.