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Posted by: powerstroke01

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
Hey MD, I'm working up a weekend ride for Miami in April over on Club ATV West.

Anybody else from FBK wanna spend their tax refunds (ha ha) to come ride?


Thanks for the heads-up, I should go over there and apply for a membership statusIt depends on when in April, the wife has a vacation planned for disneyland with friends of ours. I think, it's the 3rd week of the monthhr>


No, make plans for miami! Itll be teh bomb!!!11!

Posted by: mstrquad

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
Hey MD, I'm working up a weekend ride for Miami in April over on Club ATV West.

Anybody else from FBK wanna spend their tax refunds (ha ha) to come ride?


stop talking and set a date so i can get time off

Posted by: mstrquad

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Originally posted by: rescuediver
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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer

MD, need i remind you to look in your own liquor cabinet and see what your BEST bottle is.... CROWN ROYAL, a fine CANADIAN rye whiskey. that's okay guys, if you can plug your nose and stomach bourbon/sourmash, then drinking rye is a luxury... a treat to yourself.


Thanks for reminding meSometimes I forget what I have in that cabinethr>


looked in mine no crown but i saw mr jack and the brother beam and some guy from mex.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

1st or 2nd weekend I think will be the best. I put it on the club site.

OK, fsckit. 1st weekend in April. April 1, 2 & 3. I'll post over on ATVWest and in the CA riders.

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

I dont know how you guys do it. i got my liquor cabinet and all thats there is Goldschlager, apple pucker, Watermelon Pucker, 99 Bananas. all the good stuff disapears to fast. buy a half gallon of jack and a fifth of jaeger and thats gone 1 night. Im always at the helm when it comes to mixin the drinks. i only have estimated measurements of the quantities i put in. but its enough to drop an elephant i aint to many girls that can handle more than one of my favorite mixs, Code name Date Rapeits a mixture of Jack, Vodka, Apple pucker, jeager, crown if i got it, Everclear if i got it, 99 bananas. when the mix is done right i can drink it straight and you cant tast the boose. even though there is about 16 shots before the mixer then ya add a splash of sprite or sierra mist, its not to fruity and not to bold. its the best drink anyones ever had

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
I dont know how you guys do it. i got my liquor cabinet and all thats there is Goldschlager, apple pucker, Watermelon Pucker, 99 Bananas. all the good stuff disapears to fast. buy a half gallon of jack and a fifth of jaeger and thats gone 1 night. Im always at the helm when it comes to mixin the drinks. i only have estimated measurements of the quantities i put in. but its enough to drop an elephant i aint to many girls that can handle more than one of my favorite mixs, Code name Date Rapeits a mixture of Jack, Vodka, Apple pucker, jeager, crown if i got it, Everclear if i got it, 99 bananas. when the mix is done right i can drink it straight and you cant tast the boose. even though there is about 16 shots before the mixer then ya add a splash of sprite or sierra mist, its not to fruity and not to bold. its the best drink anyones ever had hr>


you forgot chloroform, or whatever the active chemical is in the date-rape-drug. that mix sounds like what i used to mix when i was 13 and i'd raid an ounce or two of each bottle from my parents liquor cabinet and put it in an old mayonnaise jar and shake it up. Eeeeew, that brought back some memories of driving the big 'ol porcelain bus. less liqueurs, more hard stuff. NO FLAVOR unless vomit counts as a flavor.

MD, you about described my drinking habits exactly. Can go forever with nothing, then several in one night. The only exception is Thurday nights when we curl, then we usually have several beers and then onto the rye, or black Sambucca shooters. I guess i'll be getting the "drink before" beer when/if we meet up in Oregon. I bought an 18-pack of Molson Canadian beer before Christmas, because they had a promo where there was a team Canada World Junior Hockey Team toque included, and i wanted the toque. I still have at least 16 bottles left!! Hopefully those will get done this weekend for Stupid- Bowl.

Oh, and JD is about the only good whiskey you guys got. It's A-OK!!





Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Umm the chemical your thinkin of isnt it like GHB or Rohypnohl or some crap? i dunno. I just use my Good looks, great personality and suthern charm stick to win over the ladies aint no need for drugs or alcohol to be involved. Its more named date rape cuz i had a few girls i would have rather not take advantage of me in an inebriated state Run with it Confuscious. I tell ya on your canadian beers i like Molson Ice & Kokaneeee piss beer mmm molson bottles look good sittin on the toolbox of the PSD when were out huntin

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: powerstroke01

Thanks for the heads-up, I should go over there and apply for a membership statusIt depends on when in April, the wife has a vacation planned for disneyland with friends of ours. I think, it's the 3rd week of the monthhr>


No, make plans for miami! Itll be teh bomb!!!11!


LOL, I'll try. But, for some reason, I'll stick with the wife, she does make me happyevery great once in awhileBR>


Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer

NO FLAVOR unless vomit counts as a flavor.


That's just wrongBR>

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer

I guess i'll be getting the "drink before" beer when/if we meet up in Oregon.


There is a reason why I still have it past the "drink before date"BR>
And, I can't say I've had molsonDon't think I've seen it down here. Is it dark?

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

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Originally posted by: rescuediver

And, I can't say I've had molsonDon't think I've seen it down here. Is it dark?


Molsen is top quality candian Pee beer.
Beer Advocate Reviews

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

Those damn wives and children. They are always getting in the way. I've ovoided both so far. Woohoo.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
Umm the chemical your thinkin of isnt it like GHB or Rohypnohl or some crap? i dunno. I just use my Good looks, great personality and suthern charm stick to win over the ladies aint no need for drugs or alcohol to be involved. Its more named date rape cuz i had a few girls i would have rather not take advantage of me in an inebriated state Run with it Confuscious. I tell ya on your canadian beers i like Molson Ice & Kokaneeee piss beer mmm molson bottles look good sittin on the toolbox of the PSD when were out huntin hr>


ya, rophenol sounds familar. sorry to hear that's (charm,looks, BS suthern crud) what ya gotta rely on with the ladies buddy, must be a lotta scared ewes in your parts. either that, or a lot of seared inflatables!! DOH!! Let's not get that chat started again. and why does Northern Washington sound like I've just walked into Texas or Alabama?

Kokanee has the BEST beer commercials here. but i drank way too much when i was young. now i call it teeanger beer, but lots of friends still drink it. it's brewed in the Kootenays. C'mon, you guys must know the Kootenays?? it's just littered with US anti-gov't para-military groups, training to overthrow yer gov't. that, and draft-dodgers.

there's so much micro-brewery stuff now.. it's crazy. i seem to go in stints where i really like certain lagers, then i get tired of them. try Molson Export, i know that's sold all over the US, and so is Labatt's, another okay beer. just try a couple of each and see what ya think. better than the Euro and Mexican beers. I must say, i really like Miller High Life in the bottles, from the US, not the horrible stuff they brew under licence here. AND MAN, are your bottles ever WAY more than cans. Here, there's no price diff (BUT, we do pay WAY more for booze, courtesy of all the taxes and socialism).


Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
Those damn wives and children. They are always getting in the way. I've ovoided both so far. Woohoo.


LMAO

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Molsen is top quality candian Pee beer.



Well, seeing I drink Mexico's top quality Pee beerCanadian can't be that bad

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer

Kokanee has the BEST beer commercials here. but i drank way too much when i was young. now i call it teeanger beer, but lots of friends still drink it. it's brewed in the Kootenays. C'mon, you guys must know the Kootenays?? it's just littered with US anti-gov't para-military groups, training to overthrow yer gov't. that, and draft-dodgers.

there's so much micro-brewery stuff now.. it's crazy. i seem to go in stints where i really like certain lagers, then i get tired of them. try Molson Export, i know that's sold all over the US, and so is Labatt's, another okay beer. just try a couple of each and see what ya think. better than the Euro and Mexican beers. I must say, i really like Miller High Life in the bottles, from the US, not the horrible stuff they brew under licence here. AND MAN, are your bottles ever WAY more than cans. Here, there's no price diff (BUT, we do pay WAY more for booze, courtesy of all the taxes and socialism).



You can keep the Kootenays, they are worthlessBR>
I'll keep my eyes opennd, if I see the Molson or Labatt's I'll give it a tryBR>

Posted by: confusedbuyer

the Kootenays are gorgeous. 3 big mountain ranges...Monashee, Selkirk, Purcells, and actually backs onto the Rockies. Unbelievable Rec areas for lakes,hunting, fishing, quadding, snowmobiling, dirtbike,skiing, heli-skiing, x0country, old mine and ghost town exploration. Columbia River runs through it. the freaks are partly there cuz they can live in anonymity in the bush/mountains, and never be bothered. the cities and communities are actually quite neat.

Jason Bray is from there (Trail)... you know NL (?) Rookie of the Year!! He's a Pitts. Pirate i think. Is that NL??

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: rescuediver

You can keep the Kootenays, they are worthlesshr>


C'mon now MD, that's a little harsh. CA is full of nutbars and freaks, but it still has more good people than POS. What you're saying is kinda like 'throwin out the baby with the bath water'!



Posted by: confusedbuyer

well, had quite a work out today. took a 5 hour ride thru ugly terrain. some winching..., lotsa lifting and grunting (for Jr.'s Breeze). my last ride 'till Dunes. gotta get several big jobs done around the house before we list it for sale in April.

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
the Kootenays are gorgeous. 3 big mountain ranges...Monashee, Selkirk, Purcells, and actually backs onto the Rockies. Unbelievable Rec areas for lakes,hunting, fishing, quadding, snowmobiling, dirtbike,skiing, heli-skiing, x0country, old mine and ghost town exploration. Columbia River runs through it. the freaks are partly there cuz they can live in anonymity in the bush/mountains, and never be bothered. the cities and communities are actually quite neat.

Jason Bray is from there (Trail)... you know NL (?) Rookie of the Year!! He's a Pitts. Pirate i think. Is that NL??


Sounds like a neat placeBR>
You are correct on all fronts with Bray and the NL Pirates

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
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Originally posted by: rescuediver

You can keep the Kootenays, they are worthlesshr>


C'mon now MD, that's a little harsh. CA is full of nutbars and freaks, but it still has more good people than POS. What you're saying is kinda like 'throwin out the baby with the bath water'!


If the baby is that uglywhy not

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
well, had quite a work out today. took a 5 hour ride thru ugly terrain. some winching..., lotsa lifting and grunting (for Jr.'s Breeze). my last ride 'till Dunes. gotta get several big jobs done around the house before we list it for sale in April.


Was Jr. still on the BreezeGood luck on the list of things to do on the housere you getting it inspected and working on that list? or, are the jobs to improve tho house, to make a bigger profit?

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.

Took some picks. I'll have to post them up as soon as I find my USB cable for my camera. And some GPS stuff as well.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: rescuediver

Was Jr. still on the BreezeGood luck on the list of things to do on the housere you getting it inspected and working on that list? or, are the jobs to improve tho house, to make a bigger profit?



yep, he was. it really is impressing the heck outta me, that little Breeze.

ya, we have to do some jobs to finish all the other renos off that we've done since we bought. there's about 10 things that are atrocious still (soffitt, some outside painting needed, old lino in laundry room will get tiled....but i'm not putting the heating wire under it this time,etc..).


Posted by: powerstroke01

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.

Took some picks. I'll have to post them up as soon as I find my USB cable for my camera. And some GPS stuff as well.


The bomb owned the snow.. BR>


Posted by: confusedbuyer

there's a guy on our local forum/chatroom (www.quads.ca) who's trashing Bomb big-time over uncovered damage caused by "snow ingestion". if you're intereseted..... check it out. it's a small forum, so shouldn't be too hard to find it.

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
there's a guy on our local forum/chatroom (www.quads.ca) who's trashing Bomb big-time over uncovered damage caused by "snow ingestion". if you're intereseted..... check it out. it's a small forum, so shouldn't be too hard to find it.


Hhmmm, I wonder if it's the same guy that was trash talking themon this forum, too

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.


How high did you guys go to get good snow?





Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
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Originally posted by: rescuediver

Was Jr. still on the BreezeGood luck on the list of things to do on the housere you getting it inspected and working on that list? or, are the jobs to improve tho house, to make a bigger profit?



yep, he was. it really is impressing the heck outta me, that little Breeze.

ya, we have to do some jobs to finish all the other renos off that we've done since we bought. there's about 10 things that are atrocious still (soffitt, some outside painting needed, old lino in laundry room will get tiled....but i'm not putting the heating wire under it this time,etc..).


Well, no wonder the thing was HEAVYNext time, tell him to get off, it will be a FEW pounds lighterBR>
Go figure, finish them off, then, turn around and sell the place.

Wife and I talked to today, we're going to start looking for our landAt least 40++++ acres

Posted by: confusedbuyer

kinda our plan too MD. next house we plan to buy a lot, build and sell. we'll sub-contract the majority of the house (could build most of it myself, but who has time).

current place was trash when we moved in 8 years ago. first 2 years all we did was work on it. then it tapered off, and lately we've been lazy on the house. NOW, kids needing attn has a lot to do with it too.



Posted by: confusedbuyer

LJ, here's the Bombardier link. http://quads.ca/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1134

he also posted in another forum about it. obviously a bitter guy that's PO'ed at the company. i think the lesson to take form it is; how'd his problem happen, and how can you make sure you avoid the same thing. some other guy i spoke to the other day raved for hours about the Outlander, best riding quad, etc...., and the Traxter is the toughest/most durable tank. ANd he wasn't a Bomb fan until he tried the Outlander.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

MD: Had snow at the bridge on 6S24 over Miami Creek (N37 25.888, W119 40.086) @ 4401.69126657' according to the GPS. We peaked around 5000' and the snow was more plentiful. Generally in the shade or on the north sides of the hills. Easy going north...going south...SUCKED. LJ had to pull me through one section. 4+ inches of ground clearance aren't enough. Though LJ did get stuck once at the bridge when he backed into the snow bank. LOL. I'll post up pics when I get them off the camera (USB cable has gone MIA). The bridge was beautiful. Everything was covered in snow. Creek was flowing. Hopefully the camera worked good.

LJ: yeah it owned the snow...right into that snow bank. (wasn't really a snow bank...but close enough.)

I recorded an ATV Television episode sometime in the last week and it was practically all Bomb. Outlanders including the new Max. Every section had a bomb in it. Had to laugh. And they did a 4x4 shootout at Hungry Valley. This weekend was two Outlander 400s, my Warrior and a rented 400ex with sucky tires that looked like they came off of a lawn mower.

Posted by: Trasher

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
MD: Had snow at the bridge on 6S24 over Miami Creek (N37 25.888, W119 40.086) @ 4401.69126657'


where EXACTLY is this bridge? (lol) img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

I didn't want to be TOO vague. People start asking me for better information. Sooooo. Hey, I'm the one who explained all kinds of computer stuff over on the women drivers thread. The collective glassing over of eyes was funny. Most of the snow we found was patchy, with some areas a more solid blanket depending on the terrain and vegetation. Around the bridge is a lot of pines so the area was a snow heaven. Some higher areas where the vegetation wasn't as thick the snow was on the road (if you could call em a road) but not off the trail in the brush.

I think a fire swept through that area and took out all the pines years ago and the pines have yet to return.

Posted by: Trasher

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[I think a fire swept through that area and took out all the pines years ago and the pines have yet to return.


Shoulda let em clear cut a bit and re-plant the area before the fires. Maybe it could be managed better if all the libbys settle down a bit and look at the big picture

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: Trasher
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[I think a fire swept through that area and took out all the pines years ago and the pines have yet to return.


Shoulda let em clear cut a bit and re-plant the area before the fires. Maybe it could be managed better if all the libbys settle down a bit and look at the big picturehr>


wish i could agree with ya creator, but those tree-huggin freaks would rather see it die than harvest it, or manage it properly. we have this thing in our "magnificent forests of British Columbia" (I need Monty Python to chime in now with, "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay..."), called the pine beetle infestation. we need 2 weeks of -40 F weather to kill it, or slow it. Hasn't happened for several years and our infestation is the size of most of your states. it's HUGE... but the 'save-the-guay-whales-for-jesus freaks would rather it carry on than harvest.


Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

I'm not too much for clear cutting. Have to see an area that they clear cut and replanted to see how it took. There are some strips up a hillside south of Devils Peak (Signal Peak) in the Sierra N.F. that was cut in the 60s. Looks like a pasture on the side of a hill. Maybe one or two trees.

At Miami they did a harvest this year where they go in and selectively take out trees which I think is a good idea. Looks like they also clean up some of the underbrush as well. We definately need to manage things better. Let the natural fires go as much as we can. I know in Yosemite and other high country areas they let the fires burn all summer. It's funny to see a fire report where a fire has been burning for weeks and it's like 500 acres.

At Bass Lake (east of Miami) they have a huge problem over there with some kind of a beatle. You can look across the valley with the lake and just see huge areas of dead pines. Fire tore through those trees a couple of years ago. They still need to go through and take out the dead trees I think.

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Im all for Clearcut - Burn the slash - Replant. The forrests that were managed in that fashion have been some of the most succesful tree farmin areas. the burnin keeps the blackberries and scrub brish from commin back so fast and gives the planted trees a better start at regrowth. Which means you get straighter Fatter trees earlier, wich means you will have healthier, and the will produce a better quality lumber in the long run. + it reduces the number of wild game injuries from slash and junk all over. Hillside erosion can be manages in manyways so it really not an issue if its done. anyway people who understand the forrest will never be allowed to manage the forrest cuz theres to many liberals who dont understand.

Posted by: powerstroke01

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Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.


How high did you guys go to get good snow?


You wanna get towed through some snow too? Heck, Im sure the lander could tow 2 at once after the new front tires this week. BR>
It was great though. Going through untouched snow is a blast..

Posted by: powerstroke01

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
LJ, here's the Bombardier link. http://quads.ca/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1134

he also posted in another forum about it. obviously a bitter guy that's PO'ed at the company. i think the lesson to take form it is; how'd his problem happen, and how can you make sure you avoid the same thing. some other guy i spoke to the other day raved for hours about the Outlander, best riding quad, etc...., and the Traxter is the toughest/most durable tank. ANd he wasn't a Bomb fan until he tried the Outlander.


Thanks for the link. I did feel the "tranny" getting a bit warm. But i never noticed any belt slippage.. I wouldnt even worry about that.

The bomb IS the best 400 class sport/ute out right now. Ive had problems but most were from ME. And the quad has NEVER left me stranded.. haha

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

So did anyone see the ford commercials during the superjoke sunday? Man i about got wood. their pretty sexy.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

The superwhat? Wait....I noticed there weren't many people out yesterday. hmmm. Must have been something going on.

A few pics should be up shortly.

Posted by: powerstroke01

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
The superwhat? Wait....I noticed there weren't many people out yesterday. hmmm. Must have been something going on.

A few pics should be up shortly.



Any pics yet?

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

There were errors when I would try this afternoon from work. And I can never seem to upload them from home, or rather something goes screwy. It's like it will show that there is a pic there, but nothing.

Check out my photo album on Yahoo. Also posted on Club ATV West.

Posted by: powerstroke01

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
There were errors when I would try this afternoon from work. And I can never seem to upload them from home, or rather something goes screwy. It's like it will show that there is a pic there, but nothing.

Check out my photo album on Yahoo. Also posted on Club ATV West.


Yahoo no worky.. No photos are available
Sorry, shootme93611 has not enabled any public albums in their account.

Im checking ATVW right now...

Posted by: powerstroke01

Sweet!

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer NOW, kids needing attn has a lot to do with it too.


Isn't that the truthkids get more attentionthen, the wifeimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif" border="0">

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: Trasherwhere EXACTLY is this bridge? (lol) img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">


Creator, it's at N37 25.888, W119 40.086) @ 4401.69126657'

Skinner, thanksI'll put it in my GPS and have it for future reference

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
So did anyone see the ford commercials during the superjoke sunday? Man i about got wood. their pretty sexy.


our local cable co pays for the rights to broadcast several US shows, including Superbowl. SO... they sell ads to local biz. IT SUX!! We didn't see a fraction of the multi mil$$ ads. never saw the Ford ad... nuthin.

I'm with ya on the forest Festus. our areas are full of re-planted forests. next ride i'll get ya some pics skinner, and you'll see what a sustainable forest looks like. BUT, you are correct. years ago they committed atrocities on the forest. we've had some serious hillside erosions, and they used to clearcut and then just harvest the most primo stuff. so those practices have changed.



Posted by: rescuediver

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[I think a fire swept through that area and took out all the pines years ago and the pines have yet to return.


Shoulda let em clear cut a bit and re-plant the area before the fires. Maybe it could be managed better if all the libbys settle down a bit and look at the big picturehr>


Only picture they see is the big democratic arse they have in front of their freaking noses

Posted by: rescuediver

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Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.


How high did you guys go to get good snow?


You wanna get towed through some snow too? Heck, Im sure the lander could tow 2 at once after the new front tires this week. BR>
It was great though. Going through untouched snow is a blast..


LJ, I just mightActually, that is the exact reason why I am thinking heavily about putting a winch on the Z400If I get stuckI can rescue myselfBR>
Speaking of that, Confused, can you post a picture of your new winchjust might take you up on that offer

Posted by: powerstroke01

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Good ride today with LJ and another guy from here. Found some snow. Got stuck in some snow. Got towed through some snow.


How high did you guys go to get good snow?


You wanna get towed through some snow too? Heck, Im sure the lander could tow 2 at once after the new front tires this week. BR>
It was great though. Going through untouched snow is a blast..


LJ, I just mightActually, that is the exact reason why I am thinking heavily about putting a winch on the Z400If I get stuckI can rescue myselfBR>
Speaking of that, Confused, can you post a picture of your new winchjust might take you up on that offerhr>


Sweet.. Im thinking about picking up a winch after the next paycheck.. Gonna get the 3000# Ramsey wireless.....



Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
I'm not too much for clear cutting. Have to see an area that they clear cut and replanted to see how it took. There are some strips up a hillside south of Devils Peak (Signal Peak) in the Sierra N.F. that was cut in the 60s. Looks like a pasture on the side of a hill. Maybe one or two trees.



Ca. hasn't learned form it's past mistakesOregon allows clear cutting, or what is damn near close to it, and their forest look greatThey also go in and thin out the under growtho, grasses have a chance to grow and not wall to wall pines

And, I agree with you about the fires that just burnThey need to keep that policy going, when Mother Nature takes care of things, it's better in the long runBR>

Posted by: rescuediver

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So did anyone see the ford commercials during the superjoke sunday? Man i about got wood. their pretty sexy.


Yes I didTo bad they cost waaaayyyyyyy, to much

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: powerstroke01

Sweet.. Im thinking about picking up a winch after the next paycheck.. Gonna get the 3000# Ramsey wireless.....


That's sweetI wasn't going that extravagantbut, it will be better then pushing it out or worse, getting pulled out by a LAND'R

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

yeah they do cost a purty penny. oh well they will be old news in a year or two

Posted by: confusedbuyer

i haven't mounted it yet. i'm debating if my own mounting plate can be fabbed, or if i have to go with the Warn plate. i can't seem to find anyone else who makes them for the Recon.

so do you want a pic of the thing in the box? OR, did you try their website?

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

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Yahoo no worky.. No photos are available
Sorry, shootme93611 has not enabled any public albums in their account.

Im checking ATVW right now...


photo album

Wrong screen name. LOL.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

MD more GPS stuff for Miami (and other places) at my site.

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
yeah they do cost a purty penny. oh well they will be old news in a year or two hr>


Yes, but still a little steep for meround here, can't look at them for less then $45-50,000And, one dealer is asking $62,900 for two, sitting on his lot

Posted by: rescuediver

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i haven't mounted it yet. i'm debating if my own mounting plate can be fabbed, or if i have to go with the Warn plate. i can't seem to find anyone else who makes them for the Recon.

so do you want a pic of the thing in the box? OR, did you try their website?


I wanted to see it on your quadIs this the one you bought? It's the only one I saw champion winch

Shoot I just noticed they sell them at Kragen'swe have them, all over the place. Let me try them and see if they carry it. I noticed it doesn't have the same price you paid for it

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Yahoo no worky.. No photos are available
Sorry, shootme93611 has not enabled any public albums in their account.

Im checking ATVW right now...


photo album

Wrong screen name. LOL.


This is post #2First one got lost in cyperspaceimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">

Skinner, the pics look greatreek looks wonderful and if that is, actually Half Dome in the distance, that's some pretty good visibility

And, thanks for the gps stuff, I book marked them

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Sweet.. Im thinking about picking up a winch after the next paycheck.. Gonna get the 3000# Ramsey wireless.....


That's sweetI wasn't going that extravagantbut, it will be better then pushing it out or worse, getting pulled out by a LAND'Rhr>


Yup, something is better than nothing..

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Yahoo no worky.. No photos are available
Sorry, shootme93611 has not enabled any public albums in their account.

Im checking ATVW right now...


photo album

Wrong screen name. LOL.


This is post #2First one got lost in cyperspaceimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">

Skinner, the pics look greatreek looks wonderful and if that is, actually Half Dome in the distance, that's some pretty good visibility

And, thanks for the gps stuff, I book marked themhr>


Nope. not half dome...

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Nope. not half dome...


Ok, I thought that would be pushing itBut, not knowing exactly where you guys were, I wasn't positive.

And your right, anything is better then nothingBR>

Posted by: confusedbuyer

yep, that's the winch, EXACTLY!! I just checked, I paid $68.39 Cdn-TAX IN. That price on your link was horrible. so if you want, just let me know.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

MD, I assume you're talking about the pic with the dome that is covered with snow on the north face? That's Fresno Dome. A lot of locals head up there and climb it (mountain clilmbers). I think the mtn. bikers ride up the north face, or around there. Supposed to be some good forest rd riding over there.

To see into Yosemite Valley you'd have to be over in the Stanislaus N.F. around the Groveland Ranger District (southern section) or maybe the northern section of the Sierra N.F. around the Merced River. We've been up to Devil's Pk wich gives you a view east into Wawona and the South Fork Merced River drainage.

The little red target in the middle of the map is where the pics were taken from. If you click the arror in the upper right corner it will move the map and Fresno Dome should be in the lower right quarter of the map. If you click up three times from the original map you'll see where Half Dome (and Yosemite Valley) are located in relation to where we ride. We turn off 41 about 7-9 miles south of the southern entrance.

Posted by: mstrquad

no i have the ride to see half dome.

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
MD, I assume you're talking about the pic with the dome that is covered with snow on the north face? That's Fresno Dome. A lot of locals head up there and climb it (mountain clilmbers). I think the mtn. bikers ride up the north face, or around there. Supposed to be some good forest rd riding over there.

To see into Yosemite Valley you'd have to be over in the Stanislaus N.F. around the Groveland Ranger District (southern section) or maybe the northern section of the Sierra N.F. around the Merced River. We've been up to Devil's Pk wich gives you a view east into Wawona and the South Fork Merced River drainage.

The little red target in the middle of the map is where the pics were taken from. If you click the arror in the upper right corner it will move the map and Fresno Dome should be in the lower right quarter of the map. If you click up three times from the original map you'll see where Half Dome (and Yosemite Valley) are located in relation to where we ride. We turn off 41 about 7-9 miles south of the southern entrance.


Skinner, Yes I was

And, you are correct, You would need to be in the Stanislaus N.F.That's where we rideOn your topo map, it's 4 clicks up and 1 to the left. It's just outside Yosemite's 120 entrance. We ride around Crocker Ridge and Deer Flat. From my house, it's about 1 1/2 hrs to 2 hrs.


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Originally posted by: mstrquad
no i have the ride to see half dome.


Where's your ride take you matr?

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
yep, that's the winch, EXACTLY!! I just checked, I paid $68.39 Cdn-TAX IN. That price on your link was horrible. so if you want, just let me know.


Wasn't that price a joke need to go and check locally. From what I've read/learned, the winch you haves the same as the one at Harbour Freight and they have them for $69.99. So, you paid $68.39 Canadian, what does that = in U.S. $$$$.

Also, here's a picture of what the quad would look like with one on Z400 winch

Posted by: rescuediver

Confused, I can't find, where it says the winch has a mechanical brakedoes it say anything on the papers you have? or , by it not saying it, then, that must means it lacks it know they are cheaperbut, might need to go with the Warn for that feature

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

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no i have the ride to see half dome.


Where's your ride take you matr?


Up above Greelley Hill, Coulterville, etc. I've talked about it before. Groveland Ranger District, Stanislaus N.F. We didn't get to see into the Valley last year. Have to put it on the To Do list this year.

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no i have the ride to see half dome.


Where's your ride take you matr?


Up above Greelley Hill, Coulterville, etc. I've talked about it before. Groveland Ranger District, Stanislaus N.F. We didn't get to see into the Valley last year. Have to put it on the To Do list this year.


K, Up by where we ride. We've overlooked Yosemite, but didn't have any luck seeing Half Dome eitherHey, I just sent in my membership for atv west had to go with a different name though

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what is the name

Posted by: confusedbuyer

I'll find the feature sheet, but I'm pretty sure there's no electric brake. My 2000lb Warn winch on the Kodiak doesn't have an electric brake either. You feel that strongly about having the brake??

$70 C = $55-57 US (roughly).

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what is the name


I just sent you a PM

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I'll find the feature sheet, but I'm pretty sure there's no electric brake. My 2000lb Warn winch on the Kodiak doesn't have an electric brake either. You feel that strongly about having the brake??

$70 C = $55-57 US (roughly).


I said "manual brake" you great Confused OneSHEESH, I only posted it four posts above yoursimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Geez, What's it take to keep you on track of thingsBR>
It kind of isn my electric winch, that I use for loading my quads, the mechanical brake is nice, especially if I need to adjust somethinghile the winch is straining to hold the quad at a severe angleimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">Not really, but I think it would be niceI printed off the fact sheets on harbour freight's and warns winches. There is no mention of a brake on harbours. Can you tell me what the knob is for, on the side where the cable spool is? Maybe that is the mechanical brake

Posted by: mstrquad

to release the drum to free spool?

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to release the drum to free spool?


I think so also, but is it also known as a mechanical brakes it safe to use it as that. Don't know if you can engage/disengage while drum has tension on it? On my electric winch, it has a dial on the side that tightens to apply the brake.

Posted by: mstrquad

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to release the drum to free spool?


Don't know if you can engage/disengage while drum has tension on it?
nope



On my electric winch, it has a dial on the side that tightens to apply the brake.


on the winch on my truck has no brake the motor is it

Posted by: confusedbuyer

not aware of any brake of any type. sorry, never paid attn to whether you said elec or manual. either way, BOTH my Warn and this one don't seem to have.

Yes, side knob is free-spool.

Posted by: rescuediver

Ok, the more I look, the more I think, (that's what gets me in trouble) I'll try the harbor freight. Confused, for the price difference, which isn't much, it just isn't worth it. Especially, IF for some reason, I don't make it to OregonShipping would make it about the same. I tried finding a picture of how warns bracket mounts on the Z400 frame, but, so far utl

Posted by: rescuediver

Plus, the harbor freight weighs 14 lbs shipped and the champion is 21 lbsI also like the remote control box versus the handle bar rocker switch.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

the Champion has the remote, not rocker switch. your link never showed me anything on the z400 mount. maybe you can contact the company and ask them why Costco canada is selling them for $50 US, and who sells them local to you for that much?? I'm sending you a PM on Hoss. He needs your help (bailbond).

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
the Champion has the remote, not rocker switch. your link never showed me anything on the z400 mount. maybe you can contact the company and ask them why Costco canada is selling them for $50 US, and who sells them local to you for that much?? I'm sending you a PM on Hoss. He needs your help (bailbond).


On the Champion site, it looks like a rocket style to meut, seeing you have one, I'll take your wordI can order one from Champion and get one in 1-2 days(which I hope, seeing they are in So. Ca)but, their price is outrageous and for some reason, theirs is a lot heavier(7 lbs heavier) Yea, I don't understand why I can't get one from Costco, they don't list it on their site. Maybe, I'll try to swing by the local Costco and inquire.
On the link, you didn't see how it's on the quad? I just can't see how it attaches to the framearn has nothing on their siteOther then a part number.

Posted by: rescuediver

After digging furtherI found a Champion winch that is exactly the same, as the harbor freightIt even comes with a snatch block (did yours) and it does have a remote control cable. The price is 79.99, which is $10 more, then harbor freight, but the snatch block might make the difference. champion winch

Posted by: confusedbuyer

okay, the link you just posted was the same one you posted before, and that's EXACTLY what mine looks like, with all the same accessories. the remote, the snatchblock, the hook for pulling out the cable , etc..

I'm guessing your Costcos have a few diffenrent items than ours too, but generally, 95% of the stuff i see in Costcos is the same everywhere. Last year we went to the Costco in Eugene and it really wasn't that different.

I'd say the snatchblock is worth $10.

Posted by: rescuediver

The Costcos around here, don't even carry the same itemsIf you see it, and really want it, you better buy it. No guarantee the one 10 miles away will have it. Been there, done that

I guess about the same on the snatch block. I'll let you know. I'm off to bed. Need my beauty sleep

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. I'm off to bed. Need my beauty sleephr>




better stay there
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. I'm off to bed. Need my beauty sleephr>





better stay there
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Tell me about it

Posted by: rescuediver

I bought the winch todayI found the champion at Kragen's, a local auto parts store. The manager was pretty cool got it for $79. I can take it back if, it doesn't work outThat's what sold me on getting it and not waiting for you to bring me one down Confused. I'll pull it out of the box tomorrow and see how it works on the Z400.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

for sure, let me know what ya think. eveyone up here has bought one from costco so i posted on my local atv site, "how many have actually taken them outta the box". i think only one guy has, and his set up isn't totally finished. so much for a one year warranty!!

Posted by: rescuediver

So true on the warrantyLooks like I'll be in the garage today(saturday) looking at it. I'll get my neighbor over and we'll rack our brains about how to make a bracket for it. Not sure how to do it. Wondering if "U" brackets would be strong enoughrobably notThinking I'll sandwich the frame tubes between 2 metal plates. Also need to fabricate or get a hawse [sp] roller/bracket.

Posted by: rescuediver

Have you heard from Hoss?

Posted by: powerstroke01

Wish us luck today! BR>
Lets hope we dont get stuck too bad in the snow. haha


















or lost.

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Wish us luck today! BR>
Lets hope we dont get stuck too bad in the snow. haha


















or lost. hr>




Well, we didnt get lost but......






We had some problems with traction. Yeah. Always make sure you know the pressure youre airing your tires down to.....

Or they come off teh wheel.

Poor warrior. Both rears blew teh bead. We got one back on but the other was a no go. I ended up pulling him 12 miles back to the staging area..
So we didnt get hardly ANY riding in.
Just a bad day.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

I can pretty much say....THAT SUCKED! Need to pull the tires completely off the rim, clean it up, and remount it. For $10....the tires shop can do that. Plus I don't have the irons to get it off the rim in the first place. And there was a LOT of water in that tire.

And there's something wrong with that POS trailer. LOL. It's got a pulsating vibration, like it pulsates for less than a second, then maybe a 1 second gap, then pulsates again. Bearings? This trailer is like the ultimate POS. It belongs to a buddy and he lets me use it. Usually I fix something on it EVERY time I borrow it. This time...just broke the old turn signals. Wait...power did that...twice. And one of the tail lights was out...he didn't even bother to put a new lamp in it.

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Originally posted by: powerstroke01
Wish us luck today! BR>
Lets hope we dont get stuck too bad in the snow. haha



LJ, throw that thing in four wheel driveshould eliminate you getting stuckSkinner on the other hand, is another storyBR>

















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Have you heard from Hoss?


no, with new job and commuting home on weekends, i think he's got little free time (except at "work" img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">).

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I can pretty much say....THAT SUCKED! Need to pull the tires completely off the rim, clean it up, and remount it. For $10....the tires shop can do that. Plus I don't have the irons to get it off the rim in the first place. And there was a LOT of water in that tire.

And there's something wrong with that POS trailer. LOL. It's got a pulsating vibration, like it pulsates for less than a second, then maybe a 1 second gap, then pulsates again.


I bet it sucked big timeMan, to get pulled 12 milesLJ getting stuck on your last trip has nothing on YOU nowBR>
A pulsating thingyet me talk to the better half on that one, maybe, she can help you outI have no idea

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Have you heard from Hoss?


no, with new job and commuting home on weekends, i think he's got little free time (except at "work" img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">).


I bet he doesn't

Posted by: rescuediver

Well, I did get some work done in the garageUnfortunately, I had to work on our lawn mowerso, the lawn can look decent againAnyways, I fabricated a winch bracket for the Z400. I think, when I'm done, it will work and look greatI do need to get a hawse roller for it, so, I can finish the fabrication and mount the winch. I posted pictures, just waiting for the program to cycle through to approve them

Posted by: rescuediver

Pictures are posted

Posted by: mstrquad

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Anyways, I fabricated a winch bracket for the Z400. I think, when I'm done, it will work and look greatI do need to get a hawse roller for it, so, I can finish the fabrication and mount the winch. I posted pictures, just waiting for the program to cycle through to approve themhr>


please dont rear end me on the trail that well hurt. need to mount the roler to fr bumper.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

great job on the bracket MD, how ya gonna put the fairlead on there?

Posted by: Trasher

What are ya doing throwing a winch on a 400? Looks a bit funny with the sand tires and all. What's next? Maybe a snorkel or a gun rack?
I'm kinda like OFC when it comes to ridin the sport bikes. Just hammer down and power through itBR>
You gotta get one of those fine Polaris 4x's that Hoss has. That winch would look mighty fine hangin down in front of that puppy

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: Trasher
What are ya doing throwing a winch on a 400? Looks a bit funny with the sand tires and all. What's next? Maybe a snorkel or a gun rack?
I'm kinda like OFC when it comes to ridin the sport bikes. Just hammer down and power through itBR>
You gotta get one of those fine Polaris 4x's that Hoss has. That winch would look mighty fine hangin down in front of that puppy


is "OFC" another name for Festus?? I spent all day behind a guy on a Polaris 700. He kept getting stuck. too wide and heavy + crummy tires. So i guess yer right, a day of winching woulda helped him with the stuff i was driving thru.

you CA sand-dudes..... we could all use a scabbard !!

Posted by: Trasher

Yes- OFC is short for Festus, One Fly Cowboy, or whatever he's called this week.BR>
He has more names and avatars than Hoss ever didWhat do expect from a post Ho

Posted by: rescuediver

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Anyways, I fabricated a winch bracket for the Z400. I think, when I'm done, it will work and look greatI do need to get a hawse roller for it, so, I can finish the fabrication and mount the winch. I posted pictures, just waiting for the program to cycle through to approve themhr>


please dont rear end me on the trail that well hurt. need to mount the roler to fr bumper.hr>



I wouldn't do something like thatBR>
Here's what I'll be putting on the front


hawse fairlead

Posted by: rescuediver

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great job on the bracket MD, how ya gonna put the fairlead on there?


Thanks Confused

I have a couple ideasbut, need to get the fairlead to exactly figure out how to mount it. That's why, it's still in the fabrication process

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: Trasher
What are ya doing throwing a winch on a 400? Looks a bit funny with the sand tires and all. What's next? Maybe a snorkel or a gun rack?
I'm kinda like OFC when it comes to ridin the sport bikes. Just hammer down and power through itBR>
You gotta get one of those fine Polaris 4x's that Hoss has. That winch would look mighty fine hangin down in front of that puppy


I've tried powering through some stuff and didn't make itNeeded a winch or had to be pulled through it. I like the versatility that it adds to the quad. Granted it does look kinda funny with sand tires on itbut, it will look better(I think) when I'm done with it.
I don't foresee a snorkel on it, but, a gun rackhhmmmm, I do have a kolpin gun boot in the garageBR>
Someday, I'll have a utility quad



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you CA sand-dudes..... we could all use a scabbard !!



Nothing wrong with sandIt's probably my favorite ridingBut, now that I've given my daughter the mojave, which doubled as my hunting quad, I will need to make due with the Z400. Let's just say, someday, you might see it holdong up a deer/elk/or boarBR>

Posted by: Whitewater

Well hello boys and girls,

It's been one hell of ride the past couple of months...I'm not even going to attempt to go back and read all the worthless garbage that you guys have strewn about.BR>
I've been working out of town during the week and going home on the weekends. Plus, I've been trying to figure out all the politics of a new company. I'm glad I have a new employer, but it's been quite stressful...as you can imagine.

We are in the process of selling our home and looking for a new one. It has been quite hard to find a place that we like. This part of Utah is...well, let's say...economically challenged. Trailer parks are quite common. But, there are tons of places to ride the POLARIS!!!!!!

Oh, and is Skinner still a V_rgin? or did he get lucky over the past month that I have been gone?

BTW, thanks Confusedashell, MD, and dbeck.

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Originally posted by: Whitewater
Well hello boys and girls,

It's been one hell of ride the past couple of months...I'm not even going to attempt to go back and read all the worthless garbage that you guys have strewn about.BR>
I've been working out of town during the week and going home on the weekends. Plus, I've been trying to figure out all the politics of a new company. I'm glad I have a new employer, but it's been quite stressful...as you can imagine.

We are in the process of selling our home and looking for a new one. It has been quite hard to find a place that we like. This part of Utah is...well, let's say...economically challenged. Trailer parks are quite common. But, there are tons of places to ride the POLARIS!!!!!!

Oh, and is Skinner still a V_rgin? or did he get lucky over the past month that I have been gone?

BTW, thanks Confusedashell, MD, and dbeck. hr>


Well hello there HossWorthless garbageI'm shocked that you would think that's all we post herethere's a lot of, ok, there is some good information in there somewhere, you just have to be able to read itBR>
PoliticsI love jumping in with both feetSometimes, I think about becoming a politicianBR>
Economically challengedWell, with all those wives to support, I can understand whyBR>
Isn't riding what Utah is all about always thought so.

Can't tell you about Skinneraven't held his hand latelyBR>
And, your welcomeNext time, make sure the bail amount is a little lowerimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Hey, Welcome backBR>
MD

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

Welcome back to you too Hoss....

I just can't find any naughtly little Mormon girls around here. But then again maybe I should look harder. Maybe I'll go hang out at the church down the street and try and find one.

At least it's going to warm up here in the next couple months. The young ladies start taking off their winter clothes for more ummm cooler attire. Just got watch out...don't want MD coming by "on business."

Heading out to Hollister this weekend with a group. MD and LJ are supposed to go. Hopefully they'll be there. Might need LJ's 4x4 and MD's winch to pull me out of a mud hole. LOL. I can't wait to hit Rancho Road. It's always a nice slippery chunky mess. I'm just not following LJ...that HURT last time. Gotta take the tire in tomorrow to get remounted (and cleaned up.)

Posted by: Trasher

Look what the cat drug in. Hoss is back!BR>
Sounds like you've been busy with all the changes. Moving isn't fun at all and a new job just adds to the mix.

Trailer trash is all around ya? Maybe festus might make a run down to find a new alley cat.BR>
Welcome back

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Trailer trash is all around ya? Maybe festus might make a run down to find a new alley cat.hr>


I would not be surprised if Festus showed upif there is an alley cat running, festus might be, the reason why

Posted by: rescuediver

Well, went looking for a Hawse fairing today. But, had no luckhink I'm going to go and visit a metal shop and see what they have laying around. I'm trying to get r done for this weekend. With all the rain we are gettingI think I might need it. Especially, if I have a chance to pull a black and red warriorout of a little trouble

Skinner, the plans are still to goit will only be the kids and I, wife gets off in the morning and has things to doBoy, will I miss hernyways, I hope the rain stops for Saturday

Posted by: confusedbuyer

MD, i removed my Hawse Fairlead when i put on a roller fairlead. i still have my Hawse one kicking around. did you look at roller style fairlead? I thot they were supposed to be much better.

Hoss, that was quite a long story to tell us ya can't find a nice sheep farm. seriously, your old hood is worth mucho $$. you're moving to a semi-depressed area. seems to me you could be a land baron in the new hood. are ya worried about the kinda elements your kids will get exposed to now?

well first day of golf this year and i broke 90!! (89 on a par 72). That's a great score for me. had to take my dad out for all the help around the house. no more r&r until the rest of the jobs are done. Hoss, at least you can just sell your place as is. not me.. lots of finishing to do on an 8 year reno special. but the light is just beginning to show. we hope to list in early April.

Posted by: Trasher

roller fairleads are better at extreme angles and loads but you probably don't need to go that far with your quad. Plus it will be bigger and weight more. Might help to keep the front end down

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

MD I've only gotten stuck once at Hollister. It was in the Adobe Section on the north side. Water had pooled up and I slid right down trying to go around it. Almost pegged on the rev limiter and I made it out, But they've fixed that (now slopes off the side of the hill) and they close the Adobe Section when it rains. I'm just waiting for Rancho Rd. Should be really nasty. Just have to make sure no idiots on dirt bikes try and pull out in front of me. You'll be needing to rescue them from my front bumper.

I so wish it would stop raining...IN my office. Sitting at my desk and got a drop on my shoulder... LOL Our roofs are seriously jacked here. In the process of getting bids to re-roof. All I have to say...good thing I don't have to pay for em. LOL

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Oh sure i introduce Hoss to blow up sheep and he runs outta town with her cheatin on his wife. sheesh. maybe they got live sheep in the area. I am all about depressed areas. although i am suprised you found a commesurate salary in a depressed area to that of the Beverly hills of Utah where you was why dont you just buy a whole trailer park, bulldoze it and send em all walkin

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
MD, i removed my Hawse Fairlead when i put on a roller fairlead. i still have my Hawse one kicking around. did you look at roller style fairlead? I thot they were supposed to be much better.

well first day of golf this year and i broke 90!! (89 on a par 72). That's a great score for me.



I'm with Creator on the roller fairlead. Too big;Q I know what I'm doing is on the extreme side for a Z400but, when I saw the picture that Warns has, I thought, HHHMMMM, I could use that sometimesespecially during hunting season like to get the most out of my quadsAnd I want to do the Rubicon this springand some other spots. So, if I get "stupid"" and push the envelopeI might need it.

So, if I strike out today (on a Hawse) and your willing to get rid of it, we can talk

Shoot, when I play golf, (if that's what you want to call it) my green fees don't even pay for the divitsI leave behindBR>


Posted by: mstrquad

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
why dont you just buy a whole trailer park, bulldoze it and send em all walkin


then make a track to ride on and have a rv park i'll rent a space


Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: TrasherMight help to keep the front end downhr>


Creator, I'll have to weight the set up when I'm done. One of the things I am looking at, is keeping the front end downI'm not into wheelies, especially riding up the side of a duneEven leaning forward, I've had it come over on me

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior Just have to make sure no idiots on dirt bikes try and pull out in front of me. You'll be needing to rescue them from my front bumper.

I so wish it would stop raining...IN my office. Sitting at my desk and got a drop on my shoulder... LOL Our roofs are seriously jacked here. In the process of getting bids to re-roof. All I have to say...good thing I don't have to pay for em. LOL


LMFAOI hear you about the dirt bikes. They were doing thatwhen we were there lastAnd "IF" the winch is up and running, I won't have a problem wrapping it around their azz to remove them from the black and red warriorBR>
Shoot, I know how much it is to replace a house roof

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MD, i removed my Hawse Fairlead when i put on a roller fairlead. i still have my Hawse one kicking around. did you look at roller style fairlead? I thot they were supposed to be much better.


And I want to do the Rubicon this springand some other spots. So, if I get "stupid"" and push the envelopeI might need it.


do not need it to do the rubicon we did on a warrior and had no problems

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why dont you just buy a whole trailer park, bulldoze it and send em all walkin


then make a track to ride on and have a rv park i'll rent a space


You guys might be onto something for HossBR>
No need to worry about an environmental impact report, with the meth dumpsthe land is already screwed upcan only improve it with atv'ing

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why dont you just buy a whole trailer park, bulldoze it and send em all walkin


then make a track to ride on and have a rv park i'll rent a space


You guys might be onto something for HossBR>
No need to worry about an environmental impact report, with the meth dumpsthe land is already screwed upcan only improve it with atv'inghr>


well it be ready by the smmer. will be there this summer need 2 spots with power and water!!!!!

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See hoss. theres the plan of action for some side incom and entertainment you could even run sheep in the infield n stuff.

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do not need it to do the rubicon we did on a warrior and had no problems


Ssshhhh, the wife might here youYou've done itAny pictures/videos") Everyone I've talked to says I'm crazyI've had friends do it in jeeps.

The wife is really geared up to do a lot of riding this summer. She's been couped up the last 2 years in school and is ready to venture out again after May

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See hoss. theres the plan of action for some side incom and entertainment you could even run sheep in the infield n stuff.


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Posted by: Whitewater

Well, I'm not too impressed with my new employers internet policy...this forum is not on the "approved" list. It looks like I'm actually going to have to earn my salary. So....I'm forced to use dial-up after work. I guess I'll get high-speed when I buy another home.

Speaking of home...today we had an acceptable offer made on our home (not bad for only being on the market for 3-weeks). And I'll be making an offer tonight on a home. It's a nice house on 1.5 acres. I know I could buy a bunch of land here, but my family already has 2,200 acres in the same town (oh, and my uncle has a moto-x track, too). But, I really like the trailer park demolition idea! I really like the trailers that have been renovated with the "West Wing" addition... Ya know, the one's that have another single-wide attached to it.

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do not need it to do the rubicon we did on a warrior and had no problems


Ssshhhh, the wife might here youYou've done itAny pictures/videos") Everyone I've talked to says I'm crazyI've had friends do it in jeeps.

the best part is passing the jeeps it took 2 hour to get to spider lake it take the jeep 4 hours. just have to watch the jeeper thay think thay own the trail

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Originally posted by: Whitewater
Well, I'm not too impressed with my new employers internet policy...this forum is not on the "approved" list. It looks like I'm actually going to have to earn my salary. So....I'm forced to use dial-up after work. I guess I'll get high-speed when I buy another home.

Speaking of home...today we had an acceptable offer made on our home (not bad for only being on the market for 3-weeks). And I'll be making an offer tonight on a home. It's a nice house on 1.5 acres. I know I could buy a bunch of land here, but my family already has 2,200 acres in the same town (oh, and my uncle has a moto-x track, too). But, I really like the trailer park demolition idea! I really like the trailers that have been renovated with the "West Wing" addition... Ya know, the one's that have another single-wide attached to it.hr>


That's too badyou need to work for a living nowOnce you get rid of that dial-up, you will never go backBR>
Why don't you buy land right next to your family's and build your house on the opposite side of your land, away from family (so, your not too close). That way, you can put a gate in between the properties and double your riding pleasure

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Originally posted by: mstrquad just have to watch the jeeper thay think thay own the trail



I betbut, they better watch out, because I just might have a surprise or two for themWhat time of the year, did you do your trip?


Posted by: Trasher

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Originally posted by: rescuediver
Creator, When I tow my trailer, my rig starts pulling to the rightord has replaced the rotors and brake padI don't get the shakesThank God but, I think Ford does have a problem with thier front brakes. One of the things I heard, from a mechanic that "specializes" at his own brakes shop. is Ford put out a letter to it's service centers, Telling them to hand torque the lug nuts on the trucks and not use an impact wrench. Apparently, the impact doesn't tighten the lugs evenly, and when they are under heavy brakinghey heat up and start distorting. So, I suggest, have your friend have Ford replace or turn the rotors, put new pads on and torque the wheels down by hand. Then, see if that helps. I'm getting ready to have the dealer here do thatMy warranty is up in 14,000 miles and I want new brakesat Ford's expensehr>


Don't understand why it would pull to the right unless you have a front caliber piston that is hangin up and dragging. Ford has hads major brake problems in most of their product lines for years. I used to own a Brake shop and loved seeing customers drive up in oneBR>

This guy has already been the rotors/caliber/pad route without helping the situation. the shaking is in the rear-not the frontsBR>
Hand torqing lug nuts is nothing new. That should be done on all vehicles. I never had my techs use an impact on any lug period.

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
roller fairlead is lighter than the Hawse, but it does stick out a little more. we have a store called Princess Auto, they're a lot like Harbour Freight (cheap, off-shore crap). Anyways, they have a roller fairlead for $20 Cdn (tax in).

congrats on selling the mansion Hoss. your new place must be real sweet, and 1.5 acres will seem huge after your old hood. you'll prolly be mortgage free too. but sorry to tell ya, yer also gonna be wife-free after ya move into your old neighborhood around all yer kin. that'll drive the bride crazy.


I didn't realize how heavy a hawse weighedI lifted a large one for a truck and my goodness, was it heavyore then I thought it would weigh. So, I can only take your word, that one for an atv, is heavy too, I'm kicking around a couple ideas on what to doBR>
You know, ever since Hoss went to his new job, we haven't seen that kid(from Hoss' home town) post again in this threadHoss, is there a new hole in the middle of the family's ranch? On second thought, I don't recommend you answer that

Posted by: confusedbuyer

roller fairlead is lighter than the Hawse, but it does stick out a little more. we have a store called Princess Auto, they're a lot like Harbour Freight (cheap, off-shore crap). Anyways, they have a roller fairlead for $20 Cdn (tax in).

congrats on selling the mansion Hoss. your new place must be real sweet, and 1.5 acres will seem huge after your old hood. you'll prolly be mortgage free too. but sorry to tell ya, yer also gonna be wife-free after ya move into your old neighborhood around all yer kin. that'll drive the bride crazy.

Posted by: Trasher

The Rubicon would be a very fun trip to makeI would plan to do it in August so you can enjoy the weather up there also. Are you going only on quads or are you going with a support vehicle like a jeep?

Posted by: Trasher

My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck

Posted by: confusedbuyer

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Originally posted by: Trasher
My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


creator, that makes sense. i've noticed you have a greater mechanical knowledge than all of us, and you used to own a repair shop. so it only makes sense you would have gained that vast knowledge owning and constantly repairing GMs. I know our GMC Safari 4.3L AWD van has made me a far better mechanic. Plus i've got to know more ex-cons (tow truck drivers) than ever. One common thread amoungst GM owners that I've noticed is that they're loyal to a fault, and will excuse/dismiss any problems to a GM with a shrug like, " Oh, well, it was only the tranny that blew, what are you complaining about". but if it's any other brand, we trash 'em right now. " Dam POS Ford, just got a flat tire. What a lemon, I'm selling it!"


Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

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Originally posted by: Trasher
My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">BR>Just goto the junk yard and find a couple back seats and bolt them to the bed with seatbelts and throw a ARE canopy with the walkthru door. and you be all good. besides like you wanna listen to the hoolagins while drivin.

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer
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My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


creator, that makes sense. i've noticed you have a greater mechanical knowledge than all of us, and you used to own a repair shop. so it only makes sense you would have gained that vast knowledge owning and constantly repairing GMs. I know our GMC Safari 4.3L AWD van has made me a far better mechanic. Plus i've got to know more ex-cons (tow truck drivers) than ever. One common thread amoungst GM owners that I've noticed is that they're loyal to a fault, and will excuse/dismiss any problems to a GM with a shrug like, " Oh, well, it was only the tranny that blew, what are you complaining about". but if it's any other brand, we trash 'em right now. " Dam POS Ford, just got a flat tire. What a lemon, I'm selling it!"



if you gave me a GM i'll sell it and buy a ford i see more Gm that fords in the full produck line for GM the vette is the only one i wood take. just use on the weekends as a 3nd car


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Originally posted by: Trasher
My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


creator, that makes sense. i've noticed you have a greater mechanical knowledge than all of us, and you used to own a repair shop. so it only makes sense you would have gained that vast knowledge owning and constantly repairing GMs. I know our GMC Safari 4.3L AWD van has made me a far better mechanic. Plus i've got to know more ex-cons (tow truck drivers) than ever. One common thread amoungst GM owners that I've noticed is that they're loyal to a fault, and will excuse/dismiss any problems to a GM with a shrug like, " Oh, well, it was only the tranny that blew, what are you complaining about". but if it's any other brand, we trash 'em right now. " Dam POS Ford, just got a flat tire. What a lemon, I'm selling it!"


I have have been very lucky to have vehicle that haven't left me stuck somewhere. ya know, all model lines have their problems. I don't care what your talking about. Mercedes, GM, Ford, toyota's, etc. The only difference is the type of problems.



Posted by: Trasher

Like I stated back about 100 pages of wit and knowledge (not from me I have owned 3 Astro vans and still think they are the best thing going in that class of vehicle. the ONLY reason I don't own one now is I'm sick of looking at one in my garage. I needed a change. Bought a 2002 Honda mini van and It is on it's third tranny, rear window motors died twice, cup holder broke, brakes are noisy, etc.

All cars have issues brother

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Originally posted by: Trasher
My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">BR>Just goto the junk yard and find a couple back seats and bolt them to the bed with seatbelts and throw a ARE canopy with the walkthru door. and you be all good. besides like you wanna listen to the hoolagins while drivin.


What's the California law state about having people riding in the bed under a shell?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">BR>Just goto the junk yard and find a couple back seats and bolt them to the bed with seatbelts and throw a ARE canopy with the walkthru door. and you be all good. besides like you wanna listen to the hoolagins while drivin.


What's the California law state about having people riding in the bed under a shell?


I havent looked at it. But here you dont even have to be belted if the belts in the front are used. if you have seats in the bed and seatbelts it has to be perfectly legal. there is a guy up here with about a 93 ford 4x4 and he has a crew cab with an extended cab hooked to it then a short box like 44 Inch tires on a dually. thing looks mean. i would have to say it prolly drives like turd though

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

Creator I think it's pretty much a no go. Best bet would be talk to CHP. I know at one time you could put a seat in and seat belts. But they may have changed that.

Posted by: Trasher

I think your correct about that. I think the fine beaucrats in Sacramento passed a law against riding in the back of trucks a year or so.

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

California sucks. Would you keep all your big brother liberals there please and not allow them to migrate to other places. there ruining america.

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California sucks. Would you keep all your big brother liberals there please and not allow them to migrate to other places. there ruining america. hr>


I wish they would all move up to canada

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I think your correct about that. I think the fine beaucrats in Sacramento passed a law against riding in the back of trucks a year or so.hr>


i think it is ok to ride in the back of a truck with a camper shell as long as you have a seat and belts.

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Ya know what. maybe we should move all the ccanadians to america and take over canada they got diamond mines and lots of trees left

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Ya know what. maybe we should move all the ccanadians to america and take over canada they got diamond mines and lots of trees left hr>


Trees? What are those?

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do not need it to do the rubicon we did on a warrior and had no problems


Ssshhhh, the wife might here youYou've done itAny pictures/videos") Everyone I've talked to says I'm crazyI've had friends do it in jeeps.

the best part is passing the jeeps it took 2 hour to get to spider lake it take the jeep 4 hours. just have to watch the jeeper thay think thay own the trail


Bah. Jeeps DO own the trail.








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Originally posted by: Trasher
The Rubicon would be a very fun trip to makeI would plan to do it in August so you can enjoy the weather up there also. Are you going only on quads or are you going with a support vehicle like a jeep?hr>


Thanks mstrBR>
Creator, I would try to get one of my brothers to take their jeep or both of them. But, most likely, we will be on atvs only. My luck, they would go, roll, then blame it on mebecause of their stupidityThat's just the way they are

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Originally posted by: Trasher
My poor 'ol PSD has been sitting too long. The last couple of trips I have taken I have used my Suburban because it holds more people. I take too many kids all the timeBR>
I should probably sell it and look for a PSD Excursion but I have to admit the Chev has been doing a fine job dragging the toys to and from. (I would never own a ford other than the truck


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border="0">BR>Just goto the junk yard and find a couple back seats and bolt them to the bed with seatbelts and throw a ARE canopy with the walkthru door. and you be all good. besides like you wanna listen to the hoolagins while drivin.


Doesn't work like that anymore Festusin California) If you were to do that, you better have the ratings from a Federal Safety test that states, it's federally tested and approved.

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California sucks. Would you keep all your big brother liberals there please and not allow them to migrate to other places. there ruining america. hr>


After the election fiascal going on in Washington, I don't think you have too much room to wiggle hereol' Festus

Posted by: rescuediver

Here's the sections from the Califonia Vehicle Code that should answer any questions you might have about passengers in the back of pick-ups.



Carrying Persons in the Back of a Motor Truck

23116. (a) No person driving a pickup truck or a flatbed motortruck on a highway shall transport any person in or on the back of the truck.

(b) No person shall ride in or on the back of a truck or flatbed motortruck being driven on a highway.

(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) do not apply if the person in the back of the truck is secured with a restraint system. The restraint system shall meet or exceed the federal motor vehicle safety standards published in Sections 571.207, 571.209, and 571.210 of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations.



Unlawful Riding and Towing

21712. (a) No person driving a motor vehicle shall knowingly permit any person to ride on any vehicle or upon any portion thereof not designed or intended for the use of passengers.

(b) No person shall ride on any vehicle or upon any portion thereof not designed or intended for the use of passengers.

(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) shall not apply to any employee engaged in the necessary discharge of his duty or in the case of persons riding completely within or upon vehicle bodies in space intended for any load on the vehicle.

(d) No person shall drive a motor vehicle that is towing a trailer coach, camp trailer, or trailer carrying any vessel, containing any passenger, except when a trailer carrying or designed to carry a vessel is engaged in the launching or recovery of the vessel.

(e) No person shall knowingly drive a motor vehicle which is towing any person riding upon any motorcycle, motorized bicycle, bicycle, coaster, roller skates, sled, skis, or toy vehicle.

(f) Subdivision (d) shall not apply to a trailer coach being towed with a fifth-wheel device if the trailer coach is equipped with safety glazing materials wherever glazing materials are used in windows or doors, with an audible or visual signaling device which a passenger inside the trailer coach can use to gain the attention of the motor vehicle driver, and with at least one unobstructed exit capable of being opened from both the interior and exterior of the trailer coach.

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Like I stated back about 100 pages of wit and knowledge (not from me I have owned 3 Astro vans and still think they are the best thing going in that class of vehicle. the ONLY reason I don't own one now is I'm sick of looking at one in my garage. I needed a change. Bought a 2002 Honda mini van and It is on it's third tranny, rear window motors died twice, cup holder broke, brakes are noisy, etc.

All cars have issues brotherhr>


too wierd, cuz Honda is EXACTLY what i'd replace my GM with. can't believe your on 3rd tranny. what are ya towing, mobile homes??I do agree tho, all vehs have their "built on Monday" lemons. i think the motor and tranny on my GM will be solid for a long time. But $800 for a fuel pump, $125 for glove box latch... those are import prices. I've replaced a whack of things on mine. my list of repairs is 2 pages long. a lot of coolant related issues. did i mention i hate Dexcool??

the thing i think that separates car makers is how they treat you and deal with the problem. A buddy had a Toyota Foreskinrunner and the engine went after warranty by at least a year, and it was over on mileage. They gave him a new engine, no charge. They reasoned their products are better built than that. ford, GM , Chrysler would NEVER do that

your pinko politicians would find it WAY too socialized here. only reason you don't have Canada and the diamond mines is cuz it's too darn cold. cool;:

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[qtoo wierd, cuz Honda is EXACTLY what i'd replace my GM with. can't believe your on 3rd tranny. what are ya towing, mobile homes??I do agree tho, all vehs have their "built on Monday" lemons. i think the motor and tranny on my GM will be solid for a long time. But $800 for a fuel pump, $125 for glove box latch... those are import prices. I've replaced a whack of things on mine. my list of repairs is 2 pages long. a lot of coolant related issues. did i mention i hate Dexcool??

the thing i think that separates car makers is how they treat you and deal with the problem. A buddy had a Toyota Foreskinrunner and the engine went after warranty by at least a year, and it was over on mileage. They gave him a new engine, no charge. They reasoned their products are better built than that. ford, GM , Chrysler would NEVER do that



I do have to say that the trans went out 2K out of the warranty period and they covered it, plus a Suburban for a rentalThe trans are known to have issues so they cover them for 7 yr/100K.BR>
Working at a GM dealership for years, I can say if customers had problems we took care of you and the factory was trying to fix the issue. My honda sucks for that type of service. My brakes click every time you back out of the garage and hit the brakes. They do it at the first stop after that. Honda states it's "Normal". The gas tank is very noisy at a lower fuel level. That to honda is "normal".. I know that GM would come out with a new tank and disk pads clips/hardware to fix the problem. I have seen it many times. That is what I have issues with. Sometimes you need to go the extra distance to please a good customer with a valid complaint.

Posted by: Trasher

[qyour pinko politicians would find it WAY too socialized here. only reason you don't have Canada and the diamond mines is cuz it's too darn cold. cool;:


Can't we just ship all the lefty commie pinko's up there with you so we can re-claim our land back?You all would be very happy together sitting in your electric powered cars bashing Bush and America on your way to the forest to drive stakes into the trees that those evil loggers are going to cut down LOL

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

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too wierd, cuz Honda is EXACTLY what i'd replace my GM with. can't believe your on 3rd tranny. what are ya towing, mobile homes??


Most likely it's that wonderful 700R4 GM. That Sonoma I was driving was on number 3. They CAN be beefed up by someone who knows what they are doing (they used them in Vettes) but they also come in several different versions for different power outputs. If you put one of the really light duty ones behind a motor with power it's not going to last. And there are several versions of the 700R4 as well over the years.

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the thing i think that separates car makers is how they treat you and deal with the problem. A buddy had a Toyota Foreskinrunner and the engine went after warranty by at least a year, and it was over on mileage. They gave him a new engine, no charge. They reasoned their products are better built than that. ford, GM , Chrysler would NEVER do that


It really depends on if you have a good service manager. We followed a service manager from a local dealer to one about 30+ miles away. They pick up and deliver too. They are trying to build up their business. But when he was at the previous dealer (which was locally owned and sold out to a National group) he got Ford to pay part of some stuff. Tranny on the F-450 went at like 65K. They paid part and got us the latest rev. of that tranny. Current one has probably 60K+ on it and no problems. He also got Ford to pay to redo the exhaust manifold bolts. They shear off on the 460.

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your pinko politicians would find it WAY too socialized here. only reason you don't have Canada and the diamond mines is cuz it's too darn cold. cool;:


Can't we just, umm, ship them all off to internment camps? It was jacked up to do that to the Japanese-Americans in WWII, but for the blood sucking ticks, I don't think anyone will be upset...except their families.

On another note I'm sitting here watching the rain outside my window. Should I still go to Hollister? LOL Supposed to be raining off and on all weekend. Definately going to be a muddy mess. Might end up finding out how comfy those vinyl seats in the truck are to sleep on.



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[Can't we just, umm, ship them all off to internment camps? It was jacked up to do that to the Japanese-Americans in WWII, but for the blood sucking ticks, I don't think anyone will be upset...except their families.



Maybe their family can come along. They will grow up the same way tooimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">BR>



On another note I'm sitting here watching the rain outside my window. Should I still go to Hollister? LOL Supposed to be raining off and on all weekend. Definately going to be a muddy mess. Might end up finding out how comfy those vinyl seats in the truck are to sleep on.




Ahh, trucks seats fer a bed. Sounds comfy That's why I like my Burb. Fold down the middle seat and you have a nice little bed there

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

So according to MD it wouldnt be to difficuly to rig some seats in the back of the truck under a shell. like you cant fastn a restraint system to the bed with some washers. piece of cack.

Posted by: confusedbuyer

back on the pink topic... we compensated all of our interned Japanese $25K/head!!! WOW!! can you believe it?? and you should what we're doing with our indians. you guys definitely lead the way on those issues... GET OVER IT!!

well, i guess it does come down to the dealer, but i've found the opposite from GM here, and Ford. Both are really clawing back a lot of stuff they used to cover under goodwill warranties, etc.. and resisting warranty issues as normal noises, or seepage isn't covered, only a complete burst.

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

OFC, it probably would be difficult. You would have to go find those federal standards, design something to that standard and then have someone grace their signature with it. You could probably buy a Burb/Excursion for what that would cost you.

I remember being a kid and no big deal to ride in the back of the truck. Though Darwin caught up to a kid in Fresno. there was a guy in a bed and 2 in the cab running from the cops. Well, they didn't quite make a turn (S/B Peach to E/B Shields on the north side of the airport. They cleared the chain link fence. They found the bed rider near one of the taxiways...

Last time I rode in the bed was Fall of like 1991. Clovis to Madera and back (HS football game).

Hmm, looks like a break in the weather. Rain stopped. Radar is looking clear. Will probably start pouring when I get to Hollister.

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: TrasherWorking at a GM dealership for years, I can say if customers had problems we took care of you and the factory was trying to fix the issue. My honda sucks for that type of service. My brakes click every time you back out of the garage and hit the brakes. They do it at the first stop after that. Honda states it's "Normal". The gas tank is very noisy at a lower fuel level. That to honda is "normal".. I know that GM would come out with a new tank and disk pads clips/hardware to fix the problem. I have seen it many times. That is what I have issues with. Sometimes you need to go the extra distance to please a good customer with a valid complaint.hr>


We had a '99 Suburban, the fuel pump on that thing was louder"Q then the radioChevy said it was normal. Even after it kept getting louder and loudernd it didn't matter, how much fuel was in the tank. Then when I had my 2000 Z-71, the transmission/driveline never felt as if it was "one" unit, always had a clunking play in it. Chevy didn't do anything for it, other then say, "it's normal" Anyways, I agree, every make/model has it's Monday morning lemons

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
On another note I'm sitting here watching the rain outside my window. Should I still go to Hollister? LOL Supposed to be raining off and on all weekend. Definately going to be a muddy mess. Might end up finding out how comfy those vinyl seats in the truck are to sleep on.


It rain cats and dogs here last night, tooWoke me up 3 times during the night. I would think it's going to be a muddy messYou need to get one of those tents that goes in the bed of a truckThose are pretty sweet

Posted by: BlackandRedWarrior

From what I've heard those late 90s GM truck platforms had garbage for fuel pumps. I'll tell you what sucks...climbing up a hill on a 2 lane highway and losing the fuel pump. Yeah. Dead pedal...momentum carrying you. Whew. Made it off the road.

And I'm gone for the weekend. See y'all Monday evening. Getting a little sun too!

Posted by: mstrquad

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Originally posted by: rescuediver
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Originally posted by: TrasherWorking at a GM dealership for years, I can say if customers had problems we took care of you and the factory was trying to fix the issue. My honda sucks for that type of service. My brakes click every time you back out of the garage and hit the brakes. They do it at the first stop after that. Honda states it's "Normal". The gas tank is very noisy at a lower fuel level. That to honda is "normal".. I know that GM would come out with a new tank and disk pads clips/hardware to fix the problem. I have seen it many times. That is what I have issues with. Sometimes you need to go the extra distance to please a good customer with a valid complaint.hr>


We had a '99 Suburban, the fuel pump on that thing was louder"Q then the radioChevy said it was normal. Even after it kept getting louder and loudernd it didn't matter, how much fuel was in the tank. Then when I had my 2000 Z-71, the transmission/driveline never felt as if it was "one" unit, always had a clunking play in it. Chevy didn't do anything for it, other then say, "it's normal" Anyways, I agree, every make/model has it's Monday morning lemonshr>


did thay try change the fuel filter????

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
So according to MD it wouldnt be to difficuly to rig some seats in the back of the truck under a shell. like you cant fastn a restraint system to the bed with some washers. piece of cack.


Did you not read the Subsection of 23116 (c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) do not apply if the person in the back of the truck is secured with a restraint system. The restraint system shall meet or exceed the federal motor vehicle safety standards published in Sections 571.207, 571.209, and 571.210 of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations.


Getting it tested and approved is a costly ventureMind as well buy a new vehicleThis is what gets me about the pink laced politicians and the tree huggersThey tell us, we can't drive with anyone in the back of our trucks or unrestrained in our vehiclesBut, they whine and cry because, NOW due to their lame laws, we drive 4 door crew cabs, Excursions and SuburbansBlastardsimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
From what I've heard those late 90s GM truck platforms had garbage for fuel pumps. I'll tell you what sucks...climbing up a hill on a 2 lane highway and losing the fuel pump. Yeah. Dead pedal...momentum carrying you. Whew. Made it off the road.

And I'm gone for the weekend. See y'all Monday evening. Getting a little sun too! hr>


Have funMake sure you leave a rut or two

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: mstrquad

We had a '99 Suburban, the fuel pump on that thing was louder"Q then the radioChevy said it was normal. Even after it kept getting louder and loudernd it didn't matter, how much fuel was in the tank. Then when I had my 2000 Z-71, the transmission/driveline never felt as if it was "one" unit, always had a clunking play in it. Chevy didn't do anything for it, other then say, "it's normal" Anyways, I agree, every make/model has it's Monday morning lemonshr>


did thay try change the fuel filter????



Yes, I remember they tried that. No luckI always knew GM products had a humming noise coming from their fuel pumps. But, this was something else


Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

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Originally posted by: rescuediver
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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
So according to MD it wouldnt be to difficuly to rig some seats in the back of the truck under a shell. like you cant fastn a restraint system to the bed with some washers. piece of cack.


Did you not read the Subsection of 23116 (c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) do not apply if the person in the back of the truck is secured with a restraint system. The restraint system shall meet or exceed the federal motor vehicle safety standards published in Sections 571.207, 571.209, and 571.210 of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations.


Getting it tested and approved is a costly ventureMind as well buy a new vehicleThis is what gets me about the pink laced politicians and the tree huggersThey tell us, we can't drive with anyone in the back of our trucks or unrestrained in our vehiclesBut, they whine and cry because, NOW due to their lame laws, we drive 4 door crew cabs, Excursions and SuburbansBlastardsimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">hr>


DID YOU NOT READ THE LAW. If you can lift a freaki ford truck by the tiedowns in the freakin bed if you Connect the seat with appropriate fasteners its a Piece of got dam cake. take it to the got dam state patrol for inspection and freakin walla.. don't try and make a mountain outta a mole hill boys. I gaurantee i could design a seat and restraint system in teh back of a truck to pass them standards easy as a pissin on some pinko's door handle

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: BlackandRedWarrior
OFC, it probably would be difficult. You would have to go find those federal standards, design something to that standard and then have someone grace their signature with it. You could probably buy a Burb/Excursion for what that would cost you.

I remember being a kid and no big deal to ride in the back of the truck. Though Darwin caught up to a kid in Fresno. there was a guy in a bed and 2 in the cab running from the cops. Well, they didn't quite make a turn (S/B Peach to E/B Shields on the north side of the airport. They cleared the chain link fence. They found the bed rider near one of the taxiways...

Last time I rode in the bed was Fall of like 1991. Clovis to Madera and back (HS football game).

Hmm, looks like a break in the weather. Rain stopped. Radar is looking clear. Will probably start pouring when I get to Hollister.


Guess, I should of read a little further downSkinner is right onAGAINYou missed your calling, should of been a COPBR>
I can't tell you how many citations I've written (to drivers and passengers) for passengers in the back of pickupsWay too manyIt was a never ending problem when I worked the reservoirs

Posted by: rescuediver

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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy

DID YOU NOT READ THE LAW. If you can lift a freaki ford truck by the tiedowns in the freakin bed if you Connect the seat with appropriate fasteners its a Piece of got dam cake. take it to the got dam state patrol for inspection and freakin walla.. don't try and make a mountain outta a mole hill boys. I gaurantee i could design a seat and restraint system in teh back of a truck to pass them standards easy as a pissin on some pinko's door handle hr>


I've seen the commercial with the idiot standing underneath the bedAnd, if the certification was that easy, every Okie from Oklahoma or Post Ho Patrol, Washington would be doing itAnd the law is one of those, where the owner of the vehicle must show it passed the federal standards. Not law enforcement. Good luck on getting any agency to put their neck and reputation on the line, so some idiot, can try and circumvent the law. You will need to get a reputable facility to sign off on it. Like UL laboratories.

There was a fellow deputy that desgned the 3rd seat for the Ford Explorers. He had to pay to have the seat tested to federal standards. It passed and he put a patent on it. Ford tried to buy him out, but he said no thanksWent into his own little business. made enough money to get away from L.E.

Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

Ive been across the country a few times and back in the back of a pickup truck. and i survived. unrestrained no doubt and one time not even in a campershell. I think all these regulations go way to far. last time i rode in the back of a truck was SUNDAY! i ride iin tha back of a truck allot. i also ride in the horse trailer which is illegal. you think i give a rats ass what johhny lawmaker thinks? No. some people shouldnt drive and that dont make a differnce if people is in the back of the truck or not the driver is still a retard if he is endangering his occupants and if someone Tbones ya or whatever then thats the good lord thinning the herd. leave it alone. we dont need all these restrictions.

Posted by: mstrquad

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So according to MD it wouldnt be to difficuly to rig some seats in the back of the truck under a shell. like you cant fastn a restraint system to the bed with some washers. piece of cack.


Did you not read the Subsection of 23116 (c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) do not apply if the person in the back of the truck is secured with a restraint system. The restraint system shall meet or exceed the federal motor vehicle safety standards published in Sections 571.207, 571.209, and 571.210 of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations.


Getting it tested and approved is a costly ventureMind as well buy a new vehicleThis is what gets me about the pink laced politicians and the tree huggersThey tell us, we can't drive with anyone in the back of our trucks or unrestrained in our vehiclesBut, they whine and cry because, NOW due to their lame laws, we drive 4 door crew cabs, Excursions and SuburbansBlastardsimg src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">hr>

if you use a seat and seatbelt out of a car thay have been tested and you shoud not have a promlems
DID YOU NOT READ THE LAW. If you can lift a freaki ford truck by the tiedowns in the freakin bed if you Connect the seat with appropriate fasteners its a Piece of got dam cake. take it to the got dam state patrol for inspection and freakin walla.. don't try and make a mountain outta a mole hill boys. I gaurantee i could design a seat and restraint system in teh back of a truck to pass them standards easy as a pissin on some pinko's door handle hr>




Posted by: OneFlyCowboy

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Originally posted by: mstrquad
if you use a seat and seatbelt out of a car thay have been tested and you shoud not have a promlems



Exactly what i am talkin about . goto junk yard get a rear seat & mounting hardward and seatbelts outta a total Fseries truck and mount it to the bed of the truck. all pieces have already been inpected. thus all is in complience and ya dont need some c@ck smoker to sign off on it.

Posted by: rescuediver

Festus, We can do anything we want to. Whether it's legal or not. It's your choice. Just when your caught, pay the piperI agree we can't control destiny. $hit does happen, when your numbers up, it's up. It all comes down to this- law enforcement doesn't make the laws, We enforce them. Why, because the pinkos don't have the guts to do it themselveshey just sit behind their fancy desks and figure out how to make our lives miserable.

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My brother just bought a Rubicon worthy Jeep. Pretty nice, he bought it off a local firefighter, who apparently is a Rubicon junkyAnd if you know anything about firefighters, they are meticulously analon how they take care of things'll post a picture of it, when I can. It has an onboard compressor, hi-jack, off-road lights, underbelly protection. Looks like I found my support vehicle

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Originally posted by: rescuediver
My brother just bought a Rubicon worthy Jeep. Pretty nice, he bought it off a local firefighter, who apparently is a Rubicon junkyAnd if you know anything about firefighters, they are meticulously analon how they take care of things'll post a picture of it, when I can. It has an onboard compressor, hi-jack, off-road lights, underbelly protection. Looks like I found my support vehiclehr>


i have all that on my steet truck and a 30 gal gas tank for the quads, do you want to do the rubicon? i'm up for it. start early and ride like the wind! well you be making the poker run?

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Originally posted by: mstrquad
i have all that on my steet truck and a 30 gal gas tank for the quads, do you want to do the rubicon? i'm up for it. start early and ride like the wind! well you be making the poker run?


Yes, I'll have to wait until after May, but, I do want to do it. There's a jeep show on Spike TV, they are fitting a jeep for rock climbing, pretty sweetBR>
It's still up in the airEverytime I commit to something, more then not, I'm cancelling outit is on the calendarI take it, the actual run is on Saturday?


Posted by: rescuediver

Well, finished making the mount for my winchNow if the wind would subside, I'll paint it, really don't want to do it in the garage. I weighed the bracket, it weighs 6 lbswith the winch, it will be a total of 17 lbs Good thing about it though, is it is held on by only 4 boltswhich means it not to hard to take off for the dunes and put on for trail or hunting season

Posted by: mstrquad

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Originally posted by: mstrquad
i have all that on my steet truck and a 30 gal gas tank for the quads, do you want to do the rubicon? i'm up for it. start early and ride like the wind! well you be making the poker run?


Yes, I'll have to wait until after May, but, I do want to do it. There's a jeep show on Spike TV, they are fitting a jeep for rock climbing, pretty sweetBR>
It's still up in the airEverytime I commit to something, more then not, I'm cancelling outit is on the calendarI take it, the actual run is on Saturday?


poker run is on satday but we will be riding all 3 day have to mark the trail. and go to neils falls and the look out tower. and just go for a cruz. last time i rode maybe 100 miles in 2 days.

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Originally posted by: mstrquad

It's still up in the airEverytime I commit to something, more then not, I'm cancelling outit is on the calendarI take it, the actual run is on Saturday?


poker run is on satday but we will be riding all 3 day have to mark the trail. and go to neils falls and the look out tower. and just go for a cruz. last time i rode maybe 100 miles in 2 days.


Sounds greatI'll have to sit with the wife and see if we can swing the weekend. She graduates 3 weeks after that, so, it might be crunch time for herBR>
No riding for you this weekend?

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nope have to work today and monday

Posted by: rescuediver

I hear yaMan, I hope they are staying dry at Hollister. We have thunder and lightning, with the rain coming down sidewaysWind is terrible.

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look at the weather radir

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just look and you better baten down the hatches you going to getn it

Posted by: rescuediver

Looking out my window is bad enoughdon't really want to see what's coming

Posted by: rescuediver

Oh man, that's a nasty cell coming up from the southAnd that's exactly where the wind is coming fromI'm sure we'll get every bit of it

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Oh man, that's a nasty cell coming up from the southAnd that's exactly where the wind is coming fromI'm sure we'll get every bit of ithr>


makes sense, cuz the north has been clear, sunny and warm in the sun, just about freezing at night. been this way for almost 2 weeks.

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Originally posted by: confusedbuyer

makes sense, cuz the north has been clear, sunny and warm in the sun, just about freezing at night. been this way for almost 2 weeks.


All of our nasty storms come out of the south, they are usually swirling around. I think this last storm came through 2-3 times

Posted by: confusedbuyer

ya, i just saw something on the news where a huge section of highway or bridge washed out near San Diego. almost looked like a big sink hole.

Posted by: rescuediver

Down in Creators neck of the woodsThey seem to always have sink holes in Southern Ca.I saw they also had a Tornado around Temecula.

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Down in Creators neck of the woodsThey seem to always have sink holes in Southern Ca.I saw they also had a Tornado around Temecula.


sink, or stink holes? img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> MD, i just went to check your latest photos, and the camera icon isn't there. guess you're getting pics approved?

Posted by: rescuediver

Well, I finished the winch todayI think it came out greatI posted pictures of it and, the bracket I made. They will need to cycle through and then, after I approve themThey'll be posted. The set-up weighs a total of 17 lbs. It squats the front down 1/2 inch. Good thing is, I can take it on and off by only 4 boltsSo, if I want to lighten the front end, I can just take it off

Posted by: rescuediver

Well, being that close to the borderI guess they could be stink holesBR>
Yea, I just updated some of the photos, should be about 20 mins. or so