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Posted by: atvguyinmaine
What tencubed said......2 axles with brakes,on atleast 1 axle.....load it balanced and u should be ok....
Posted by: bigben
Tandem axles are usually a good idea. They do wonders for the stability of the trailer at speed. Long trailers are also more stable at speed. I'm not pickin' up what Ol is puttin' down regarding wheelbase...
How far are you going? That makes a difference. Just about anything can be done if the haul is short enough.
Sled trailers are nice because they're usually light and have good ramps, but they also usually have very high centers of gravity. They work well, but might be kind of "exciting" if you had to make a fast manuever with a light tow vehicle.
Aluminum trailers are the best in just about all scenarios, if you have the $$.
Four quads seems like a lot for a Jeep, but I've never owned a Wrangler (just an M38A1), so I really don't know.
I have a steel 8x12 high-deck (sled style, no fenders in the way) single-axle trailer that I use occasionally, and I tow it with a 1/2 or 3/4 ton pickup.
Posted by: Bing
I tried to haul my enclosed (with only a 400ex in it) 6x12,,,,,and it couldnt do it,,,,,had to run 3rd or 4th gear on the highway (98 wrangler 4.0)
I would say, aluminum, flatbead, single axle......and be sure the toungue weight is proper (balanced load).
Or do like we did and buy a truckBR>
they are all in my pics
Posted by: Bing
oh,,,,and electric brakes
and with two axles the load may balance a little better.
Posted by: Ol
Man !! Talk about co-inky-dinks !!!
Refer to my my earlier post regarding trailering an ATV. Here's the deal:
My '98 2.4L Jeep Wrangler tow capacity is rated at 1000# with auto tranny and 2000# w/manual transmission.
In California (and many other places) you do NOT need brakes on a trailer until the total weight of the trailer and load exceed 2000#.
My new single axle trailer weighs 650# and my Rancher weighs in at a bit under 550#. Add in tools, ramps, gas cans, and "stuff" and you are still well under capacity for the 2.4L Wrangler w/ stick shift.
I just had my Wrangler set-up to tow the new trailer and will pick up my new Recon with it this afternoon.
Now, let's talk about wheelbase a minute: with a Wrangler, a trailer 10' or over could pose a problem - NOT towing but stopping. When you brake the Jeep, the inertia of the trailer's speed becomes a big lever (or "prybar") with the force being exerted wher the trailer hitches to the Jeep. Because of the lever, equal to or maybe even "longer", than the wheelbase of the Jeep; the result is to jack-knife or swap ends. This is exaggerated when you try to brake going downhill at highway speeds.
All that said: keeping the trailer single axled and 10' or less, staying under towing capacity, and staying at the legal 55mph for towing a trailer and there should not be a problem. A long haul with a Wrangler might get a little "old".
Yeah, I know, 25 of you will write and say you exceed ALL of those parameters ALL the time and have never had a problem. So ??
FWIW: I tow my 2000# orchestra at least 4 times a week (and have for the last 15 years). I also regularly tow my 7500-8000# RV trailer MANY times every year, so while that does not make me an expert, it does mean that I have some very experience to base my opinions on.
Hope this helps with your question.
Posted by: Ol
Coyotechaser,
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Make a snack to take along if you live where there are hills.
........... you vewwy vewwy funny, guy!
LOL!!
Posted by: Ol
Tellya what, Coyotechaser.....
I promise to get several posted before the weekend. Just been too dang busy doing other stuff.
Posted by: Ol
Thanks, Rescuedriver.
I'm spoiled. I was astonised to discover that some folks actually PAY to RIDE. BR>
When we bought the 1881 Ranch, neither my business partner nor I had any inkling of the ATV potential. We had the place for almost 2 years before I figured out how much simpler the chores would be with an ATV. My partner bought his about a month after I bought my ATV. Only THEN did we really start exploring the back country and begin prospecting.
There are some superb riding spots out there and if you pay attention, there's a lot to see in the desert.
It's rare that we see anyone else out there and frankly, I like that. The very LAST thing we want is a bunch of yahoos running all over the place leaving ugly tire tracks, destroying the desert scenery and running all the wildlife into the next county.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
Four quads (or 3 quads and 1 motorcycle) and a trailer would weigh some where between 1450 lbs and 2900 lbs. So it would really depend on the total weight. I had to do some digging to find a class 2 hitch for my Wrangler. I used it to pull a very heavy fiberglass 18 foot open bow Chap. boat. The trailer was a dual axle with no brakes. It took a little while to get from here to there. (The jeep had a 6 cyl.) I would put it in low 4 wheel drive to back it into the water. Sometimes, I thought it was going to pull the jeep in. So, if you're going to be pulling a lot of weight then brakes on the trailer would be nice.Just try to keep everything within the weight limits and it should do alright. Make a snack to take along if you live where there are hills. Good luck.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
Ol,
I check your picture page once a while in hopes that there will be more desert pictures. HINT. HINT.
Posted by: Coyotechaser
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Originally posted by: Ol
Tellya what, Coyotechaser.....
I promise to get several posted before the weekend. Just been too dang busy doing other stuff.
Sounds good.
Posted by: watzupdog
Posted by: Kintama
I used to tow my 19.5 bayliner with a 94 jeep wrangler. Pulled it fine, just make sure you have ample stopping distance.
Posted by: rescuediver
Ol' those are some nice pictures of your ranch. Looks like a great place to ride
Posted by: rescuediver
Ol, that sure is a rare find, can't find to many places like that in Ca. Ride safe and have fun while your doing it. Some day I'd like to find a piece of property like that
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Go4it, I think you are going to be to heavy with 3 quads and a bike on a 8.5x10 snowmachine trailer. In order to get all the quads on there you are going to have two of them too far forward causing the tongue to be too heavy. Or if you put the one sideways up front you will be putting alot of stress on the tongue risking breaking it off or causing the rear of your Jeep to feel light and messing with the handling.
I towed with my Jeep for a couple of years until I got a truck and it was fun I will say at the least. On more then one occasion I have tried to swap ends when the trailer started to drive me going around corners on ice. For dry pavement it was fine as long as the quads were balanced over the trailer axle. She would run around 1800-2000 rpms at 60 mph in fifth gear and I ran 31 inch tires. If you can get the weight right you will not notice it but I am doubtful you will accomplish this with 3 quads and a bike. Oh, and I agree bring a snack for the hills, I would have to drop to as low as 2nd gear if I was not able to get up to 70 before starting to climb. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: tencubed
Go4it:
Never towed with a Jeep but put a lot of miles on a 74 Bronco which is similar in wheelbase and weight. I found the best setup, when pulling boats and horse trailers anyway, was a tandem axel with brakes on it. The rig was so darn short that it was easy to start fishtailing with trailers with no brakes. Worst case scenario would be going downhill in a corner and have a deer jump out in front of you. No way your going to control things with no trailer brakes. JMHO based on a lot of miles.
Posted by: Go4it
Hello forum,
The last two months I've learned a lot from reading all the chat. Now a member, here's a question. Any Jeep Wrangler owners out there that trailer 4 quads (3 quads & a motorcycle)? I'm trying to decide on a trailer for a Wrangler, this is difficult due to their short wheel base, and their limited towing capability. What are you using out there? Single axle or tandem axle, steel or aluminum, trailers for sleds, size, etc....help. Appreciate any ideas.
Posted by: Go4it
Thanks for your inputs. I do appreciate any additional comments as well, since I'm still trying to determine what to do. I do not plan on acquiring a pickup, so my Jeep will have to be used, unless I use my wife's van - don't think so. My Jeep has the 4.0 six cylinder engine with a class II after market hitch which is recommended for 2000 pounds. From my research and your inputs, it appears that an aluminum sled trailer with brakes (approx 400 - 500 pounds - single axle), and approx. 1500 pounds of quads and gear and try to stay under 10 feet. I have been able to locate sled trailers that are 8.5 x 10. What do you think about the width?
