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Posted by: SHOTGUN
Equal weight, he probably wins. Sorry, Grizzy diff lock seems to work better than the Cats, at least thats the way it seems with the bikes I've had pull my drag..
Everything said here is right, as much weight as possible, (full tank of gas, etc. etc.), hook as high as possible, stiffen the rear shocks.
Your type of tires are more suited for softer conditions.
Not bashing, I have an h1 in my prowler and love it, but when it comes to pulling, I've not have a Cat win in any pulls that I have held. I do believe that cat has one of the best bikes out.
Hooking hitch to hitch might be different than pulling a drag sled, so I wish you well.
Posted by: SHOTGUN
Hi buckaroo50
I live in Westfield, by Presque Isle,
I would like to come to a pull in your area.... let me know if you hear of any...
Posted by: SHOTGUN
Well, I'm not bashing anyone's opinion, just giving my own, which comes form years of pulling and holding pulls, here in the northeast.
The hole concept of pulling is lifting up on what your pulling and putting all the down pressure you can on your rear wheels, which do most of the work. If you can take the weight off his rear wheels and put it on yours, you'll win. If you can accomplish that by hooking low, have at it.
buckaroo50, I'm serious, let me know if any pulls down you way....
BTW, those pics in my profile are really old, need to update.
Posted by: SHOTGUN
Congrads on the win.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: buckaroo50
One last thought. Hook up as high as you can on your machine and as low as you can on his. This way the stress weight from the pull will force your machine to squat, making it heavier on the rear wheels and lifting his rear up and making it lighter.
Try not to break traction with yours if you can, even if it means applying light braking and when you notice he has broken traction then nail it. You will just drive off with him spinning his wheels - lol....
Hooking high allow your front wheels to be pulled off the ground easier. You never see tractor pullers hook high, alway low. Below axle height if possible, then the pull of the chain plans you front tires.
Posted by: deanz400
seen that happen with a fullsize Bronco and a pickup bounced and snap went the broncos axel
Posted by: deanz400
Always nice to shut down some bragart .,good job .
Posted by: deanz400
OUCH $$$$$$$ talk about putting your money where your mouth is
Posted by: weez440
power hoping will do it every time and congrats on the victory. and with the weight you had over the grizz i am not suprised.
Posted by: weez440
hey onzs i gotta ask why do you have a pic of a traxxas t-maxx in your pics? if you wanna buy a remote control truck i got 2 trucks for sale and i sold my t-maxx last fall.
Posted by: cataway
no dont do that , you'll flip over and end up getting killing . big law suit, maybe some jail time
Posted by: Chumley
Keeps gettin' worse n worse...
Posted by: mudslinginfool
i was at a hay ride with about 150 people. it was time for tug of war and ive got a 2002 500 manual (no locker). my friend had the brute force 750.(with a locker) both of our bikes had 27" 589's. we hooked up last year and neither one of us went any where. we both were in low,same tires,except he had his locker on and because his is an automatic it threw alot of dirt on me,but the results were the same. we both just sat there. the terrain was dry, with a little bit of grass. i ecpected to lose but ill settle for a tie!! good luck!
Posted by: buckaroo50
One last thought. Hook up as high as you can on your machine and as low as you can on his. This way the stress weight from the pull will force your machine to squat, making it heavier on the rear wheels and lifting his rear up and making it lighter.
Try not to break traction with yours if you can, even if it means applying light braking and when you notice he has broken traction then nail it. You will just drive off with him spinning his wheels - lol....
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: SHOTGUN
Equal weight, he probably wins. Sorry, Grizzy diff lock seems to work better than the Cats, at least thats the way it seems with the bikes I've had pull my drag..
Everything said here is right, as much weight as possible, (full tank of gas, etc. etc.), hook as high as possible, stiffen the rear shocks.
Your type of tires are more suited for softer conditions.
Not bashing, I have an h1 in my prowler and love it, but when it comes to pulling, I've not have a Cat win in any pulls that I have held. I do believe that cat has one of the best bikes out.
Hooking hitch to hitch might be different than pulling a drag sled, so I wish you well.
Shotgun,
Not to change the subject but where in Maine do you live, I would like to come and watch some pulls. I live in Skowhegan and you can email me with my name at yahoo.com
Thanks
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: buckaroo50
One last thought. Hook up as high as you can on your machine and as low as you can on his. This way the stress weight from the pull will force your machine to squat, making it heavier on the rear wheels and lifting his rear up and making it lighter.
Try not to break traction with yours if you can, even if it means applying light braking and when you notice he has broken traction then nail it. You will just drive off with him spinning his wheels - lol....
Hooking high allow your front wheels to be pulled off the ground easier. You never see tractor pullers hook high, alway low. Below axle height if possible, then the pull of the chain plans you front tires.
Gee maybe you should read the entire feed and see what SHOTGUN says... then look at his profile and his pictures.... lol If I remember correctly he says to hook high too.
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: onzs
i am going to hook up chains with a grizz 700 and am going to be on my 650 h1 cat i want to now should i put it in low or high and should i lock it out or not and we are going to do this in two days he thinks his bike is the best and he had been puting down my bike so i told him lets hook them up and he said ok and i wanna now some tips and look ate my photo page to see my tires
So ONZS what is going to be your stragety? I think the pull will be won or lost on how you start. SHOTGUN would be the one to give you some tips but I think the machine that breaks traction first will be the looser.
With that in mind maybe a plan on how not to break traction first may get you a win. Here is a though for you. Not sure if it is good or bad as I have never done this but at least it is some type of strategy. May or may not work but if it were me I think I would not give it full gas at start but only enough to put some stress on my driveline and I would apply some light breaking and even if I gave up 6" or a foot at the start, I would wait unitil he breaks traction and then give my machine the full pull. Something to consider... Ask SHOTGUN what he would do on start, he probably could advise you with a good plan.
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: HR
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Gee maybe you should read the entire feed and see what SHOTGUN says... then look at his profile and his pictures.... lol If I remember correctly he says to hook high too.
Well it looks like you like to pic on Bear. i wonder why that is? are you the typical smartalic type? just can't leave well enough alone? if you actualy read what Bear stated then used some brain power and watched a tracter pull you'll see that he is correct.
now the reason you don't want to hook High is it will pull the front off the ground thus doing you no good. i under stand the thought about pulling your rear axle down and his up. but it won't help in this.. only get some one hurt.
as for you buckaroo50, you tell Bear to just drop it and leave it alone but here is PROOF that you can't take your own advise? and at that you have to be an a$$ about it... Jim that is a cute little white house you live in on the corner. you might want to be more careful how much you offend people.
i could care less if you take offence to me, just maybe prectice what you preach. if you can't leave it alone the please leave.
HR.
Thank you for sharing your view points HR. These are not tractors are they? Since SHOTGUN does pulls, I think I would be more inclined to take his advice, than from someone who has never done it. You like my little, white house? Handing out idle threats will only lead to your own demise. And quite obvious, you are of the same calaber of person to threaten, insult and call names. I am so glad that you can participate in this discussion with such adult, tactfull, knowledgeable and skilled methods.
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: SHOTGUN
Well, I'm not bashing anyone's opinion, just giving my own, which comes form years of pulling and holding pulls, here in the northeast.
The hole concept of pulling is lifting up on what your pulling and putting all the down pressure you can on your rear wheels, which do most of the work. If you can take the weight off his rear wheels and put it on yours, you'll win. If you can accomplish that by hooking low, have at it.
buckaroo50, I'm serious, let me know if any pulls down you way....
BTW, those pics in my profile are really old, need to update.
Well stated SHOTGUN. And yes I will definately let you know if there are any pulls down this way. Do you ever pull in the Bangor area. I would like to come watch you guys pull sometime. Let's keep in touch.
Posted by: buckaroo50
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Originally posted by: west350bruin
so did the pull happen? Been a couple days already... RESULTS?!!?!
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Yea, me too... Be really neat if someone took a digital camera and made a short video of the pull too...
Posted by: buckaroo50
Well good for you. Sorry to hear about your friends axle.
You will have to tell us all the details.
Too bad someone didn't get it on a digital movie.
Posted by: HR
on pavment or dirt?, if you can unconspicously <~~?SP ad as much weight to your quad as you can. gives you more traction. run your tires a little on the softer side. and yes LOW use LOW,
if you have a front rack pack add a sand bag or two to it. that will keep the front down and pulling instead of wanting to lift and not do you any good.,
your atv it heavier then his so is should pull his around. BUT... you never know.
i think it would though. he who has the most weight wins, usualy.....
as for the fornt locker i would lock it in.
good luck and let us know how it went.
HR.
Posted by: HR
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Gee maybe you should read the entire feed and see what SHOTGUN says... then look at his profile and his pictures.... lol If I remember correctly he says to hook high too.
Well it looks like you like to pic on Bear. i wonder why that is? are you the typical smartalic type? just can't leave well enough alone? if you actualy read what Bear stated then used some brain power and watched a tracter pull you'll see that he is correct.
now the reason you don't want to hook High is it will pull the front off the ground thus doing you no good. i under stand the thought about pulling your rear axle down and his up. but it won't help in this.. only get some one hurt.
as for you buckaroo50, you tell Bear to just drop it and leave it alone but here is PROOF that you can't take your own advise? and at that you have to be an a$$ about it... Jim that is a cute little white house you live in on the corner. you might want to be more careful how much you offend people.
i could care less if you take offence to me, just maybe prectice what you preach. if you can't leave it alone the please leave.
HR.
Posted by: HR
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Thank you for sharing your view points HR. These are not tractors are they? Since SHOTGUN does pulls, I think I would be more inclined to take his advice, than from someone who has never done it. You like my little, white house? Handing out idle threats will only lead to your own demise. And quite obvious, you are of the same calaber of person to threaten, insult and call names. I am so glad that you can participate in this discussion with such adult, tactfull, knowledgeable and skilled methods.
and what make you think i have never done pulling comp? you ever been to my part of the US? ever seen my back yard? then you have no clue if i have or not.
you have no place telling me of my own demise for you have NO clue who i am and what i'm capable of. i have never thretened you and won't, not my style. and as for this line... Quote
"I am so glad that you can participate in this discussion with such adult, tactfull, knowledgeable and skilled methods."
can you read what you typed? didnt you mom ever tell you if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all? guess not...
HR
Posted by: HR
congratz glad to hear a CAT out did the yamaha. :-) did you get pics?
HR.
Posted by: HR
on your T-maxx when you open the tranny adjustment cover there are some small allen screws, one of them more then likely came loose. or you broke the main shaft or maybe your clutch shoes are bad under the bell gear. your local hobby shop can help you find and fix it.
i have a Mamoth ST, RC 10 t3, RC 10 GT, mini monster T, Savage 21, and some others that i can't remember the names of at the moment.
As for your tell me what is does after you start it, does it rev to hi hell? bog down? andy grinding noise? does the spure gear have flat spots on it? i have built ALOT of RC's so let me know.
HR.
Posted by: west350bruin
so did the pull happen? Been a couple days already... RESULTS?!!?!
Posted by: gohip2000
Definately go low gear. definately lock the diff. Both quads have enough power to spin the wheels, so it's all a matter of weight and traction. power is no longer a factor. I own a Grizzly, but i'm pretty sure the AC will win on this because of more weight pressing down on the tires. be careful, because flipping backwards is definately a possability, but I'm prediciting you will win.
Posted by: onzs
i am going to hook up chains with a grizz 700 and am going to be on my 650 h1 cat i want to now should i put it in low or high and should i lock it out or not and we are going to do this in two days he thinks his bike is the best and he had been puting down my bike so i told him lets hook them up and he said ok and i wanna now some tips and look ate my photo page to see my tires
Posted by: onzs
i won and i snapt his axel we took off and my bike was geting grip and his bike started to spin them he started hopin then he got higher and higher then i heard a loud pop and it was his axel
Posted by: onzs
no i did not get pics but he broke his u jonts to
Posted by: onzs
and the two front tie rodes broke i think
Posted by: onzs
JUST SAW him TODAY HE DOES not have enough money to fix it he asked if he could borrow a 1,000 and he would pay me payments every mouth so i told him i will late him now by tomorrow
Posted by: onzs
i have a traxxas tmaxx but something happened to the transmission its does not move when you start it i opened it and i just cant figure it out. what kind of truks do you have
Posted by: onzs
thank you
Posted by: rockkrusher
Yup, use low and definately lock the front end. The H1 is a good 100 pounds or so heavier than that grizz. You shold take him.
Posted by: rockkrusher
Pulling on anything other than a tar road is a waste of time. You both will just dig holes and not go anywhere. Having said that, pulling on tar is asking for trouble. The amount of stress that is put on the axles and axles shafts is unreal. Not to mention there is always a good chance that one of you will flip over backwards.
If you do decide to do it on tar, I would be very very surprised if you lose.
