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Changing cams in an 05 650V2

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Posted by: Bear4570

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Originally posted by: sammydogs64
How difficult is the process for changing cams, I thought I read that you have to pull the motor due to space constraints end?. What is a good all around performnce cam, with no loss off bottom end and more mid and high


There is no cam that will increase the top end horsepower without taking away bottom end performance. Engine dynamics just don't work that way.



Posted by: Bear4570

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Originally posted by: sammydogs64
Not to sound like an AS& here but I have recieved responses from Bear before and they are generally without merit. I know that a couple companies produce cams and some are cut for more low end and some more top end but and mild increase in lift and duration can help both low, mid and top end HP. The v2 has so much low end I have never wanted for more but the mid and top seems to be a little insuficient. . Compaired to my old Prairie 650 or my buddies BF 750, or even a Polarbus 700 the top end is real shy on my AC. I can do 51 in low and only 53 in high


Yup, I don't know SH!T. You ask a questtion and you know the answer so I figure you are what you say you are. So go ahead and believe the advertizing hype. I love it when guys like you spend their money then whine you didn't get what you paid for. Well, if it sounds to go to be true then it is. I've forgot more about engines than you will ever know. You just went on the ignore list.



Posted by: Bear4570

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Originally posted by: sammydogs64
OK BEAR go ride you 400 at 20MPH, as you have said before no one needs to go 50 on a utility ATV, you little girl you!

You have no idea of mods becuase you are so lame you don't want to go faster.

The only one I hear whining is you.

Why don't you go on the PepBoys ATV forum as I think they are more your speed.


I've been faster than you ever will go on your quad, sonnypuppy! Tell me about the records you've set or the championships you've won in any sport. Also tell me about how you worked as a professional race mechanic. Then I will believe what you say, otherwise you are full of crap and know nothing about engine dynamics.



Posted by: Bear4570

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Originally posted by: v2rider
Hey sammydogg, something is wrong with your quad if it only does 53 in high. I can hit 70


Yeah, the rider, no brains or skill.



Posted by: sammydogs64

How difficult is the process for changing cams, I thought I read that you have to pull the motor due to space constraints end?. What is a good all around performnce cam, with no loss off bottom end and more mid and high

Posted by: sammydogs64

Not to sound like an AS& here but I have recieved responses from Bear before and they are generally without merit. I know that a couple companies produce cams and some are cut for more low end and some more top end but and mild increase in lift and duration can help both low, mid and top end HP. The v2 has so much low end I have never wanted for more but the mid and top seems to be a little insuficient. . Compaired to my old Prairie 650 or my buddies BF 750, or even a Polarbus 700 the top end is real shy on my AC. I can do 51 in low and only 53 in high

Posted by: sammydogs64

OK BEAR go ride you 400 at 20MPH, as you have said before no one needs to go 50 on a utility ATV, you little girl you!

You have no idea of mods becuase you are so lame you don't want to go faster.

The only one I hear whining is you.

Why don't you go on the PepBoys ATV forum as I think they are more your speed.

Posted by: sammydogs64

Must be both PepBoysBear

Posted by: sammydogs64

So I fattened up my jetting to 147.5 and 145 R/F Kehin jets and I saw a notocable improvement in top speed. 53 low and 58 high, this was on a sandy railroad bed with my 27" mud lites. The speedometer is pretty accurate, I checked it with GPS. Man the motor is screaming at 53 in low. I was riding with three buddies, two Can-Am 800's and a BF-750, man those machines crank. Suspension wise I could easily stay with them in all area's except all out excelleration but that was not real problem due to NH speed limits. One of the Outlander boys was actually impressed at my suspension as he kept banging his frame in the rocky area's, where I could clear without issue.

They both complained the the Outlander suspension does not live up to the motor and it very easy to overwhelm the suspension and brakes.

I think I enjoyed riding the BF most as I found the suspension to be a good mix of ride quality and handling.

Posted by: v2rider

Hey sammydogg, something is wrong with your quad if it only does 53 in high. I can hit 70

Posted by: sevenmag

I just got my 06 650 v2 up to 65 on pavement over the weekend. I have been listening to v2 rider and staying under 40 in low. I was at my dealer today and he said I could go as fast as I want in low gear. He didn't tell me how fast it would go in low but I will use the 40 and under rule.

Posted by: WATERJETDUDE


A higher performance cam alters the duration of intake and exhaust valves to maximize performance within a certain power band. Since the valve timing is controlled by the cam, and it is set to a fixed duration, the timing can only be optimized within a certain range of engine rpm's. A good low-range cam has optimal detonation when the piston is moving slower, but as the engine accelerates, optimal detonation may occur later in the stroke, when the piston is not in as optimal of a postion to transfer the power. Remember that the process of detonation takes the same amount of time no matter what....getting the engine to better capture the power of the detonation within a certain range is the purpose of a different cam. This is why Variable Cam Timing is such a big deal in some of the new cars. They really do make a difference in the entire powerband. To the best of my knowledge, none of the ATVs on the market have variable cam timing. Hope this explanation helps.

Posted by: kitty05

You can get a cam or dual cams from your artic cat dealer and yes they do help a lot in low, med, and high range. You can do it in the machine.