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Arctic Cat 400 vs. 650 TBX

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Posted by: swampyjunior

I have a 500 TRV and a 400 manaul. I Think the TRV has the same chassy as the TBX but has the 2-up seat instead of the box.

That said the 400 has gone every place the 500 has and pulled the same loads. There have been very few times the 500 has done better due to the larger engine size. Neither machine has diff lock. Both machines have a 2500# winch. Which I have needed ocasinally.

I have not researched it enough but I would be curious about the weight differences between the machines? Exactly how much does the 400 weight complared to the 650?

I ask this because my only difficulty is towing heavy loads and bringing to a safe stop. Neither machine has problems getting them to move.

If you are going to be towing heavy loads up or down steep hills I would be inclined to go with the heavier machine. If this was not going to be an every day occurance then maybe the lighter one.

Also, I seem to remember reading post that the difflock can be installed for about $1000-$1500 in a machine? not sure if that is true or not.

If you can get them to throw in a 2500# winch then I would pay the extra $ and get the 650.

Get the extended warranty.

SJ

Posted by: Bear4570

Well, I've gone everywhere the big engine rigs have gone and did it on less gas. But then I'm old and already did my go fast phase (gone really fast too). And that's what the bigger engine will do, make the machine have a higher top speed. Using the right range (low is a real nifty thing that lots of people ignore) will get you there, maybe not as fast. But I would think a TBX would be a work machine and not a racer. As to the locker, I love mine and was one of the main reasons I bought my 400, unless you are gonna do some real nasty stuff, like rock crawling, muddin', etc., the locker won't be an issue.

Posted by: Bear4570

400TBX weighs 727# and the 650TBX weighs 787#. Only 66# difference.

Posted by: Catterman

I have owned both the 400 and now the 650. For only $1000 get the 650.

Posted by: trvman

get the 650 because it is a true LOW END WORK HORSE that is true 641cc compared to the 376cc 400 you might regret getting the 400 later but you wont regret getting the 650

Posted by: v2rider

I also would get the 650, that way you KNOW you will have enough power for the largest of tasks, but they are all ACs, so they are all great machines

Posted by: v2rider

One night a AC v2 650 went by my house and I chased him down

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When i came to this sentence, i almost stopped reading to call a BS card on a Polaris 330 catching a 650V2!!!!! Good thing i read on and saw you said (ok, i blocked the road on his return trip).

Posted by: oldmancrash

Well I can not tell you the difference between the AC 400 and the 650. But I can tell you about a polaris 330 all terrain pickup and my v2 650. The polaris did everything I wanted it to plus capacity for more. I used low range for most everything doing with climbing or towing and crawling. Slow is safe (most of the time). One night a AC v2 650 went by my house and I chased him down (ok I blocked the trail on his return trip) and needless to say after a couple of rides together I bought a 650. Then my wife decided she wanted a TRV. So I found a deal on a lime green 500 TRV and sold the 330 ATP. The only real difference I think is top end, and that is exactly why I stepped up to the 650 but keep in mind I never ran out of power on the 330 in low range. Now most of the time when we are boondocking I ride my 650 in low range also. Tough decision

Posted by: saskabush

I thought the 2006-2007 400 Auto had a front diff lock...Am I mistaken?

Posted by: saskabush

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Originally posted by: LittleWolf
For some reason the '06 and '07 400TBX does not have diff lock, whereas the regular 400 does. I don't know Arctic Cat well enough to tell you why (perhaps to keep the price down?)

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I thought the 2006-2007 400 Auto had a front diff lock...Am I mistaken?



Thank you for your answer. Strange why they omitted the diff-lock. I have a 400 Auto LE, and I was sure it had a diff-lock. Thankfully, I was right. Great machine BTW.

Taking it northern moose hunting next week.



Posted by: LittleWolf

I am looking to purchase an Arctic Cat TBX. The local dealer has an '06 400TBX and '07 650TBX (H1). There is about $1,000 price difference. My land is very hilly and can be muddy, so I am worried that the 400 won't have enough power, and that I'll regret not having the diff lock in tough spots. I can't seem to find any new 500TBX's and of course they are not available for '07.

I've done lots of research on the web, and it appears there are plenty of 400 owners who find it has enough power. But every so often I'll come across a review of someone lamenting that the 400 just doesn't have enough juice to do the job.

So, is it worth an extra grand for the 650?

Also, what do you think about the extended (3 yr) warranty?

Thanks for your response.

Posted by: LittleWolf

That's correct, I am looking for a utility workhorse, not a racer. I need an ATV that can climb steep hills, power over deep rutts and holes, and pull fallen trees out of a bog. A friend has an '05 Arctic Cat 500, and I've seen firsthand how it can do all of the above, which is why I've decided to go with the Arctic Cat. I need the TBX because I'm always carrying stuff. I just don't want to spend $6K and then later regret not spending that extra grand to get the power I really need. But I'm not exactly rich, so I don't want to waste money, either.

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But I would think a TBX would be a work machine and not a racer.


Thanks for your responses!

Posted by: LittleWolf

For some reason the '06 and '07 400TBX does not have diff lock, whereas the regular 400 does. I don't know Arctic Cat well enough to tell you why (perhaps to keep the price down?)

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I thought the 2006-2007 400 Auto had a front diff lock...Am I mistaken?