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Posted by: LTZ
Evening everyone.
How about we keep it on topic and help the man with his HP question.
Posted by: Scootergptx
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Originally posted by: Bear4570 As to being able to rebuild or mod my engines, I did it as a professional mechanic for years, then as a race team mechanic and later running my own successful race team. So I probably have done it or directed someone to do it or been to a race where it was done under conditions and time constraints that would shock you.
I suppose you mentioned to the how fruitless it was to do any mods on those machines too?
Welcome to the forums arcticcatmatthewhone. Depite your first experience here, there are good people willing to help with anything you need.
Posted by: motox26
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
Not only is it stupid to buy a new machine then immediately start modifing it, but it is a moron's economics. .
And who are you to tell people how they can spend their money?
Welcome to the forums arcticcatmatthewhone. Don't pay attention to his azz or others like him.
Posted by: Bear4570
Bought something with a bigger engine to start with.
Posted by: Bear4570
Gee, I have 2 and had at least one for years. But I'm smart enough to buy one with the power I want rather than buy one new underpowered (you probably think it's under powered but you haven't got a clue) and void the warranty because I have to hotrod it. Forest Gump said it best about guys like you. "Stupid is as stupid does."
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Mainly because after awhile I get tired of hearing the same old "I need more horsepower" when they haven't a clue how to use what the already have. Get all there is to get performance wise from you machine is more important than using the Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor method of "More power". A great ride on average equipment will beat an average rider on the highest dollar equipment everytime.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Mainly because after awhile I get tired of hearing the same old "I need more horsepower" when they haven't a clue how to use what the already have. Get all there is to get performance wise from you machine is more important than using the Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor method of "More power". A great ride on average equipment will beat an average rider on the highest dollar equipment everytime.
Know what? I have no argument for that, except that it is still no reason to be an ass. Believe it or not, you are not the horsepower police. It isn't up to you to decide who needs more hp. Look around, TONS of threads are about more power, if that doesn't suit you then maybe you should stay out of forums in general.
I don't NEED more power. I do nothing that my atv cannot already handle, but yet I am proud of the fact that I have taken my machine apart and put in a few goodies that not everyone has. More power isn't always about "more power", sometimes its about that warm fuzzy feeling that you get when you finish customizing, and having something that is uniquely yours.
Not only is it stupid to buy a new machine then immediately start modifing it, but it is a moron's economics. If you want more power buy it to start with, not only is it cheaper but doesn't void your warranty. You also don't lose reliability either. Hot rodding almost always compromises reliability, because if the motor could be made to make more horsepower and maintain reliability the manufacture would do so (it's smart marketing). As to being able to rebuild or mod my engines, I did it as a professional mechanic for years, then as a race team mechanic and later running my own successful race team. So I probably have done it or directed someone to do it or been to a race where it was done under conditions and time constraints that would shock you.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Lucky700
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
Gee, I have 2 and had at least one for years. But I'm smart enough to buy one with the power I want rather than buy one new underpowered (you probably think it's under powered but you haven't got a clue) and void the warranty because I have to hotrod it. Forest Gump said it best about guys like you. "Stupid is as stupid does."
If you're so smart, you would realize that there are many reasons to pick an ATV. Power is only one reason, try size, ground clearance, ergonomics, ride, and many more. How you rate them, is up to you. Buying an ATV and adding more power makes perfect sense if that makes one's ATV more perfect. I am surprised that a self proclaimed genius as yourself can't see that. I do think your quote applies to you perfectly.
And if you were so smart you would know that all the AC models are pretty much the same physical size. Also that more power (read horsepower to these jokers means only increased top speed which for a ute is worthless. You wanna go fast get a sportie. So it appears I am smarter than you, which isn't a real challenge. I never proclaimed a damn thing, other than it makes no sense financially to buy new and not get enough power, because once you start modding, the warranty is gone along with realiabilty. Those 2 are facts of life and to ignore them shows either lack of common sense and/or lack of the ability to do it right the first time.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: acpower
hey bear before you run your mouth you should have something with power to begin with. pretty sure his H1 will take your 400 at anything, so know your role and shut your mouth.
Same should apply to you, your mouth is running when no one was talking to you. Unless of course my statements apply to you. I have forgotten more about hi-performance and driving fast than you will ever know. My role is to counter morons like you that think power is everything. Skill and using your equipment to it's maximum show more smarts and ability to learn than the school of "I can't get the job done with what I have so more power will make me better". It doesn't, it won't and can't.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: AceShwetz
Its his quad he can do anything he wants to it Bear. Its pr**ks like you that don't have F-all themselves and knock others to feel better about what you got. Mind you a 250 4X4 must be the premier machine around here (and you must like that thing enough to post 3500 times about it! - got too much time on your hands, should probably spend more time ridin or modifyin). I have a 660 Rappy, 660 Rhino, two 400 outlanders and an 800 Outlander. The only things stock is the 400s. I certainly spend more time helping others and RIDING than knockin a new member. So go take your 250 and 400 and shove them up your...
We'll be helping eachother here while you do that.
You are not smart enough to do anything but call names of those with more smarts and experience than you. But then the unqualified and those lacking the ability to do it the right way are always name calling those that can and have done it right. I have earned my right to have time on my hands, little boy. And I've earned the right by being a national champion and record holder while racing to state my opinion. So until you earn the right to say something with the qualifications I have you need to shut your cake hole and listen, you might learn something that way; but I doubt it. Your type alway talk a good tale, but never back it up with the actions to prove how good you reallyare.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Bear, I honestly think you should be banned.
Your quality post consists of you telling someone else how much experience you have racing. However, when someone inquires how to do any type of power mod, you jump up and beat them down. People like you stunt the growth of sites like this. I hope you feel good about being suck a pr|ck to others.
Go for it.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: paintballbanshee
Hey man, Try the pipe and filter, After that they have some really nice cams nowadays, raising the compression is always a good thing, is that thing a shaft or chain? Why increase top speed im just wondering? utilities are for like mud bogging or really rough trails, usually people want the most down low torque on utilities as possible. So id say if the thing even has sprockets (not familiar with arctic cat) id say after modding it maybe raise 2 or 3 teeth in the back or drop the front 1 or 2..... good luck with it sorry that bear is being like that this is not his place to do that
I see how all you <edit> are. You can have your opinion but by God don't anyone have a different one. Well, guess what? In this country I can have my op[inion and will express it whether you turkeys like it or not.
Posted by: Catterman
There are a lot of mods that can add A LOT of power to the H1. The problem is that it is fairly new so it is taking some time to get these mods out. Speedwerx is coming out with a muffler and clutch kit within weeks (they are actually using my H1 as a test machine, I will keep you posted with results) and have a few more things in the works too such as cams.
Posted by: Catterman
Welcome arcticcatmatthewhone!
Bear, I would say that over half of the people who come to this forum are doing so to find some mods they can add to there machine.
Posted by: 700vtwinman
I ride with a friend who has the H1 and to me, it has plenty of power and torque. But, if someone wants to mod their quad, go for it. It is all about what you want and not what others want you to want. Welcome to the forum and ignore those who bash. You can learn a lot from people here on this forum just as I have. Again, enjoy that great H1 and let us know how the mods go.
Posted by: 700vtwinman
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Bear, I honestly think you should be banned.
Your quality post consists of you telling someone else how much experience you have racing. However, when someone inquires how to do any type of power mod, you jump up and beat them down. People like you stunt the growth of sites like this. I hope you feel good about being such a pr|ck to others.
*Edit- 'suck' typo
I TOTALLY AGREE!!! If you bash....you must be trash. Most people come here to gain information and trade stories. But then there are a few who do nothing but bash other peoples choice of quads just to try to convince themself theirs is the best every built.
Posted by: 700vtwinman
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Originally posted by: Chumley
HELP!! BEAR IS BEING OPRESSED!!!
Oh, please Bear. Just because people call you on being an a-hole doesn't mean you need to run and hide behind the first amendment. Get a life.
LOL....great response.
Posted by: weez440
welcome to the sight arcticcatmatthewhone. the statement made that if these engines were meant to have more horsepower and keep their reliability they would do it from the factory is completely untrue. my 650 was detuned from the factory by retarding the timing so first time buyers couldn't go out and buy a bigger atv and go get hurt on it. right when i first got mine the tires well suck as any cat owner can tell ya so i put on my 589's in the 27 inch. well anyone who has them can tell you that they suck a little power out of the machine so i put in a different cdi and clutch springs. this machine has turned out to be great for me even though i think i would like a lil more power sometimes but when i crack it down from a dead stop sitting on it and it has the capabilities of riding wheelies forever i feel that right now i guess i don't require more power, but for those who do go for it. just remember one important thing when doing hopups don't hop up a machine to having more power then what your capable of handling. i guess always remember that you can get hurt very easily and quickly.
Posted by: weez440
DON'T POKE THE BEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP YOUR HANDS AND FEET OUT OF THE CAGE AND ABSOLUTELY NO FEADING THE BEAR!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: OneFlyCowboy
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Cuz bear is a cranky Old focker and his perspective is correct in this instance.. just as anyone who suggest a mod.
Posted by: AceShwetz
Its his quad he can do anything he wants to it Bear. Its pr**ks like you that don't have F-all themselves and knock others to feel better about what you got. Mind you a 250 4X4 must be the premier machine around here (and you must like that thing enough to post 3500 times about it! - got too much time on your hands, should probably spend more time ridin or modifyin). I have a 660 Rappy, 660 Rhino, two 400 outlanders and an 800 Outlander. The only things stock is the 400s. I certainly spend more time helping others and RIDING than knockin a new member. So go take your 250 and 400 and shove them up your...
We'll be helping eachother here while you do that.
Posted by: FASTFATBOY
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Mainly because after awhile I get tired of hearing the same old "I need more horsepower" when they haven't a clue how to use what the already have. Get all there is to get performance wise from you machine is more important than using the Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor method of "More power". A great ride on average equipment will beat an average rider on the highest dollar equipment everytime.
If your that tired of hearing about it then all means don't open the thread and if you just can't control your mouse, "That happens with older age. Depend undergarments may help.", then control your fingers and don't type. I've seen you degrade and belittle people on here over and over. If your that much of an ass and can't help it then by all means don't open the damn post. Or stay off the forum period, your not near as helpful as you may think, may want to get checked for "alzheimers" spelling?? You may remember me, I'm the one you tried to attack with your superior "riding ability" over my prairies power. By the way I'm still waiting on you to show up at one of our sand dragswith your "superior ability" and almighty race team knowledge. If your superior ability can't get you down the track in less than 5.7 then that's ok, I know those rascal power wheelchairs are still fun to ride huh pops.
Posted by: FASTFATBOY
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Originally posted by: arcticcatmatthewhone
How can i get more HP out of my H1?
and quicker response?
Start with an aftermarket exhaust, jet kit, and clutch work. On the clutch work you may want to start small and try some different primary clutch springs. This will be a good starting point and won't cost you a ton of money.
Posted by: sammydogs64
Let it go!!!!
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Posted by: Lucky700
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
Gee, I have 2 and had at least one for years. But I'm smart enough to buy one with the power I want rather than buy one new underpowered (you probably think it's under powered but you haven't got a clue) and void the warranty because I have to hotrod it. Forest Gump said it best about guys like you. "Stupid is as stupid does."
If you're so smart, you would realize that there are many reasons to pick an ATV. Power is only one reason, try size, ground clearance, ergonomics, ride, and many more. How you rate them, is up to you. Buying an ATV and adding more power makes perfect sense if that makes one's ATV more perfect. I am surprised that a self proclaimed genius as yourself can't see that. I do think your quote applies to you perfectly.
Posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Posted by: Chumley
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Mainly because after awhile I get tired of hearing the same old "I need more horsepower" when they haven't a clue how to use what the already have. Get all there is to get performance wise from you machine is more important than using the Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor method of "More power". A great ride on average equipment will beat an average rider on the highest dollar equipment everytime.
Know what? I have no argument for that, except that it is still no reason to be an ass. Believe it or not, you are not the horsepower police. It isn't up to you to decide who needs more hp. Look around, TONS of threads are about more power, if that doesn't suit you then maybe you should stay out of forums in general.
I don't NEED more power. I do nothing that my atv cannot already handle, but yet I am proud of the fact that I have taken my machine apart and put in a few goodies that not everyone has. More power isn't always about "more power", sometimes its about that warm fuzzy feeling that you get when you finish customizing, and having something that is uniquely yours.
Posted by: Chumley
Bear, I honestly think you should be banned.
Your quality post consists of you telling someone else how much experience you have racing. However, when someone inquires how to do any type of power mod, you jump up and beat them down. People like you stunt the growth of sites like this. I hope you feel good about being such a pr|ck to others.
*Edit- 'suck' typo
Posted by: Chumley
HELP!! BEAR IS BEING OPRESSED!!!
Oh, please Bear. Just because people call you on being an a-hole doesn't mean you need to run and hide behind the first amendment. Get a life.
Posted by: Chumley
In Bear's defense, it isn't about thinking which quad has enough power for you. It isn't even about thinking what quad has enough power for other people. What it's really about is manners. You can express your opinion in a lot of different ways, one of which is being a total jerk to people. That's the type I hate, especially when it happens over...and over..
Bear could have easily made his point about reliability and purchasing decisions in a much less hostile manner.
There are plenty of mods available, and I'm sure many will be listed by other members. Something to remember though is that modding your atv reduces reliabilty, so I recommend that you really think it through. Is the added power worth the decrease in reliabilty? Are you willing to take the future risk of added repair costs?
Also, if you are after more power right so soon after purchase, what made you choose this atv? There are a lot of other atv available with more power to start with, did you consider other machines before purchasing this one?
Point made, fewer people pissed off.
Posted by: paintballbanshee
Hey man, Try the pipe and filter, After that they have some really nice cams nowadays, raising the compression is always a good thing, is that thing a shaft or chain? Why increase top speed im just wondering? utilities are for like mud bogging or really rough trails, usually people want the most down low torque on utilities as possible. So id say if the thing even has sprockets (not familiar with arctic cat) id say after modding it maybe raise 2 or 3 teeth in the back or drop the front 1 or 2..... good luck with it sorry that bear is being like that this is not his place to do that
Posted by: xFreebirdx
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
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Originally posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: Chumley
Hey Bear, way to make the new guys feel welcome. Why do you have to be such an ass all the time?
Mainly because after awhile I get tired of hearing the same old "I need more horsepower" when they haven't a clue how to use what the already have. Get all there is to get performance wise from you machine is more important than using the Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor method of "More power". A great ride on average equipment will beat an average rider on the highest dollar equipment everytime.
Know what? I have no argument for that, except that it is still no reason to be an ass. Believe it or not, you are not the horsepower police. It isn't up to you to decide who needs more hp. Look around, TONS of threads are about more power, if that doesn't suit you then maybe you should stay out of forums in general.
I don't NEED more power. I do nothing that my atv cannot already handle, but yet I am proud of the fact that I have taken my machine apart and put in a few goodies that not everyone has. More power isn't always about "more power", sometimes its about that warm fuzzy feeling that you get when you finish customizing, and having something that is uniquely yours.
Not only is it stupid to buy a new machine then immediately start modifing it, but it is a moron's economics. If you want more power buy it to start with, not only is it cheaper but doesn't void your warranty. You also don't lose reliability either. Hot rodding almost always compromises reliability, because if the motor could be made to make more horsepower and maintain reliability the manufacture would do so (it's smart marketing). As to being able to rebuild or mod my engines, I did it as a professional mechanic for years, then as a race team mechanic and later running my own successful race team. So I probably have done it or directed someone to do it or been to a race where it was done under conditions and time constraints that would shock you.
When somebody buys something, they own it and can do as they please with it. If you don't like it ignore it. Last I looked this Country is still free. And in saying that it also means you can say what you want good or bad. Try to be a step above and use a little class or manners in your replys. You quoted Forest Gump, think about what you quoted for a minute.
Welcome to the Forums arcticcatmatthewhone!
Posted by: acpower
hey bear before you run your mouth you should have something with power to begin with. pretty sure his H1 will take your 400 at anything, so know your role and shut your mouth.
Posted by: arcticcatmatthewhone
How can i get more HP out of my H1?
and quicker response?
Posted by: arcticcatmatthewhone
Posted by: arcticcatmatthewhone
Posted by: arcticcatmatthewhone
when you put your k&N filter in did you fell a increase in power
