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Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: zerowick
hey tex, have you considered one of these ?
maybe someone with experience on this machine can comment on it, like how it steers with the 4WD in all the time... I wish they offerd this machine with 2/4WD, a locker, and the manual trans from the 500 with low reverse. manual on 400 only has high reverse which is higher than 1st high, not good for towing or crawling in reverse.
The steering is heavy compared to the selectable model. Just engage your from axle and drive around for about an hour or so. You will wish you hadn't.
Posted by: Bear4570
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Originally posted by: tex0373
not many cat places in this area (2 within about 80 miles, both 30 away from me) they did have a used cat for 4500 but it was really really beat up and looked like it was roughed up. i'm going to look at some new hondas tomorrow and if the payments are the same, i will most likely go with the honda because my stepdad has a recon and honda seems to me to be a very dependable machine.
The closest to me is just over 30 miles and they are not a desirable dealer (the truth escapes them often). The next is 60 miles and well worth the drive. They are the highest volume dealer in the state, have the best inventory and prices and if you purchase from them they give a 10% parts discount. The big plus is their word is gold.
Posted by: zerowick
the Eiger is the most machine for the money but lacks a front locker, and like Hoopie said, rides rougher than the Cat due to the SRA, plus ground clearance is much less than Cat. the 360 Prairie is a well equipped machine but only comes in an Auto belt drive that uses a servo motor to apply pressure on the belt for enging braking, too many parts to go bad IMO. the Kawi does have a front locker however and a nice sealed rear wet brake. not sure if you meant to say Rancher or Foreman because the Foreman is in a higher price range and even still doesn't have much for suspension travel or ground clearance compared to the Cat. all depends on how you ride and what you will be doing with it. the Cat is a totally different type of machine than the others you mentioned and offers a much different ride too. the Cat has the most suspension travel of any utility machine out there, has IRS and lots of ground clearance, the others are all SRA machines with much less suspension travel and ground clearance, more of a sporty ride for less demanding terrain.
Posted by: zerowick
if it's just going to be a hunting ride and those trails are flat and most of your riding is on even ground then you could definately get away with a SRA machine. if you want to shift then it's between the Rancher and the Suzuki if you don't mind not having a locker upfront. the Rancher is a much nicer looking machine, but the Eiger has more power, suspension, ground clearance, HI and LO range manual, and discs up front. well, that was easy, looks like you're getting an Eiger!
Posted by: zerowick
"Torque-sensing limited-slip front differential provides maximum traction and light steering in tight turns" that's what it says about the Eiger, only the KQ has a locker. it's a full size machine and would probably fit you as well as the Cat, but I would try them in real life because the Eiger may be a bit too soft for your size. the Eiger should be enough unless you want to do serious exploring in which case the superior traction and articulation of the Cat will suit you better, plus the ride is way more plush. many don't seem to have any trouble without a locker up front, Honda doesn't even offer one yet, but for me I need to know all four are getting equal power.
Posted by: zerowick
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Originally posted by: tex0373
i just checked the suzuki web site and it says the eiger does have the locking diff.
just so we are clear, "limited slip" is not the same as "locking". limited slip will send equal amounts or torque to each wheel until one can spin easier than the other at which point that wheel will spin while the other may get no power at all, in essence 3WD. a locking diff is just that, both wheels are locked together and get equal power.
Posted by: zerowick
hey tex, have you considered one of these ?
maybe someone with experience on this machine can comment on it, like how it steers with the 4WD in all the time... I wish they offerd this machine with 2/4WD, a locker, and the manual trans from the 500 with low reverse. manual on 400 only has high reverse which is higher than 1st high, not good for towing or crawling in reverse.
Posted by: zerowick
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Originally posted by: tex0373
i need to make the best decision possible. thanks for the help
that's right, don't lose sight of your priorities: girlfriend, school, ATV...
Posted by: zerowick
not a bad price as long as it's an out the door price, no tax, prep or any other charges.
Posted by: zerowick
just remember that in your price range a Honda will have the least suspension travel and ground clearance and will have drum brakes all around. reliable, perhaps, but way behind the times when it comes to comfort and features. just my 2 cents.
good luck
Posted by: zerowick
congrats tex! so nice to have a shiney new ride! take some time to enjoy how pretty it is now, might not ever be that way again, unless you are like me and baby it, but that's no fun! even though it's a Suzuki make sure you tell us about your first impressions after some seat time, I'm assuming you got the manual...
Posted by: zerowick
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Originally posted by: tex0373
what psi do yall put in your tires
5 psi, there's a sticker on the Sportsman to remind the rider. glad you like it so far.
Posted by: Hoopie
go with the cat or the eiger. both very nice quads. the eiger is a little more sporty while the cat is more work oriented and will go through more.
Posted by: 5spdvinsn
Sounds like a decent price.
Posted by: rango726
go cat you wont regret it i got an 06 400 fis and its incredible it makes riding effortless i have yet to get stuck every atv has there strong and weak points but i have climbed and gone through things that ive watched other atv brands not even get close (cough polaris) the locker makes all the difference in the world
Posted by: oper2nyst
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Originally posted by: tex0373
honda service and sales people suck around here. so its the cat or the eiger, eiger is cheaper. i just checked the suzuki web site and it says the eiger does have the locking diff. one more thing, i'm a big guy (6'4" 265) will the eiger have enough room because i know the cat is pretty big. thanks for answering all my questions it is really helpful
if your that tall and weigh that much get the AC, i think it will fit you better , i have a 05 eiger and a 05 cat tbx[the cat is physically a much larger machine and even on its lightest spring setting rides a little harsher than the eiger[partially a function of having a larger rear load capacity perhaps] . for me at 5'10" and 205 the eiger is great and seems to be sprung just right for me[unfortunately it lacks adjustability,both front and rear, consequently it might not have enough suspension for a guy your size}
Posted by: oper2nyst
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Originally posted by: tex0373
got a pretty good deal on a new 05 eiger 4x4 man today. 4700 new from dealer, will test drive tomorrow. what do ya'll think?
at 4700 your only a short way away from a vinson, if locked on to an eiger look around some more, should be looking at closer to 4k for a noncurrent 400 series zuk.......... and for that dough[$4700]you could easily find a cat ,a new one
Posted by: oper2nyst
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Originally posted by: zerowick
not a bad price as long as it's an out the door price, no tax, prep or any other charges.
nah, like i said ,knock around 6-700 for a 05
Posted by: tex0373
I really like this four wheeler, but it is a little pricey. I am a full time college student and will be making the notes myself and I wanted to know if this is the best choice. What about Honda foreman, kawasaki prarie, or Suzuki eiger? Feedback would be great.
Posted by: tex0373
I did mean the rancher, sorry. I'm mostly going to be hunting with it and screwing around the house. We don't have a lot of trails here in southern mississippi, but we do have mud holes. we do most of our riding on paved backroads and sometimes hit a major mud hole. does this change any recommendations? anybody know the payments on the cat with the 72 month financing?
Posted by: tex0373
honda service and sales people suck around here. so its the cat or the eiger, eiger is cheaper. i just checked the suzuki web site and it says the eiger does have the locking diff. one more thing, i'm a big guy (6'4" 265) will the eiger have enough room because i know the cat is pretty big. thanks for answering all my questions it is really helpful
Posted by: tex0373
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. now i see the light. i really like the arctic cat but we will just have to see what the payments are on each one before i decide
Posted by: tex0373
i may just have to go with a used one right now and later on give that one to my girlfriend and buy me a really nice one. but man i really like that arctic cat also i need to make the best decision possible. thanks for the help
Posted by: tex0373
got a pretty good deal on a new 05 eiger 4x4 man today. 4700 new from dealer, will test drive tomorrow. what do ya'll think?
Posted by: tex0373
not many cat places in this area (2 within about 80 miles, both 30 away from me) they did have a used cat for 4500 but it was really really beat up and looked like it was roughed up. i'm going to look at some new hondas tomorrow and if the payments are the same, i will most likely go with the honda because my stepdad has a recon and honda seems to me to be a very dependable machine.
Posted by: tex0373
got the 06 eiger 4x4 for 4800+warranty. i thought it was a pretty good deal so i took it. can also pay it off faster with the revolving payments
Posted by: tex0373
pretty durn good...had it about one day before i put her to work pulling out logs for rough cut to give to my uncle to build his house. stuff i coudn't even walk through it was going through it like it was nothing. probably the most mud it will see for a very long while. by the way, what psi do yall put in your tires, got it from dealer who "serviced" it but they seem kind of low? maybe we just run them high on the recon i don't know
Posted by: tex0373
not pulling out logs with the eiger it was just carrying all of our crap (chain saws, chains, and such). i read it after it was posted and it read kind of funny just had to clarify. sorry.
