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Posted by: Fango
I got real tired of freyed cable chewin the he!! out of my gloves/hands....plus it kinks up.....I've had them snap and its real scary!!!BR>
I bought the 3/16 plasma rope from MasterPull and it's awesome. I've had it for 2 years now and I will never buy cable again. I do take the rope off in the winter and install a 10' cable for use with my plow though.
As far as installing the rope on the drum....it will need a little modification.....I drilled a hole and tapped in threads for a bolt.....I may have pictures that I can post....then again they may be lost.
The rope is stronger, safer, and lighter. The sun, mud and grit will wear it but it will still last longer than cable. Cables generally lasted me a year and they were trashed. The rope is still perfect after 2 years of winching....and no freyed wires rippin my skin.BR>
You will need the aluminum fairlead!!
Posted by: Fango
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Originally posted by: petroleumboy
Is plowing too hard on synthetic winch line? I don't really want to switch back and forth between cable and synthtetic!
You can use it for plowing if you so choose....I just prefer to swap it out.....rather than risk any damage to the rope. It really doesn't take much time to switch.
Posted by: BlueOne
Go with the rope,if you have a chance.You will not regret the cost!alot of big trucks are going to it for many reasons,which some were mention above.it will strench also,also it will not cut your hands like cable,and yes always wear gloves with cable or rope! Good Luck
Posted by: BlueOne
What kind of lights are those,and how did you connect the strap,smart thinking there,are the lights on only when you back-up, thanks. Running a 60" county plow on mind. no problem putting the rope on mind and the 50' did fit on it.a warn 2500.
Posted by: BlueOne
any problems with the 55watts and our system being able to handle that? what be nice to change our front lights to a brighter light system,either light front two or the single one! Thanks for your help!
Posted by: BlueOne
i've had no problem with my rope at all,would not go back to a cable,no problem with the weight of the big plow on it,3/16 rope is all you need.
Posted by: BlueOne
Yes I am running the same roller and no problem yet,if so will have to change to alum. unles I'm missing something that is going to ruin the rope.let me know, Thanks.It's how we all learn !
Posted by: Catterman
I have been using the steel since 1999, and it sucks. I have so many pokes in my hands, binded cabels, and worring about it braking and snaping back and hitting me. This summer I am getting the Amsteel one. It is better in every way IMO. Steel works, but Amsteel is better.
Posted by: Catterman
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Originally posted by: BlueOne
Yes I am running the same roller and no problem yet,if so will have to change to alum. unles I'm missing something that is going to ruin the rope.let me know, Thanks.It's how we all learn !
You are not suppose to use your roller flarehead with the synthetic. Because they figured you have been using the steel cabel for so long that it has cause dents and inperfections in the flarehead, that can cause the synthetic rope to split. However if your flarehead is in great shape, it is 100% fine to use it.
Posted by: weez440
never had any experience with the rope but with the cable i have used it ALOT!! and i have never had any issues so i guess that shows that even if you use cable alot it will stand up.
Posted by: petroleumboy
Have any of you using synthetic had a hard time installing it on your drum? I've heard that often the synthetic cable isn't meant to fit into the hole on the drum forcing may people to use tape or knots to attach it to the drum. I've also heard that the synthetic lines are easy to splice together. Has anyone out there had to?
Posted by: petroleumboy
Is plowing too hard on synthetic winch line? I don't really want to switch back and forth between cable and synthtetic!
Posted by: petroleumboy
BlueOne,
From your pictures, it looks like your running the original rollers on your winch with your synthetic line. Is that the case?
Posted by: mudslinginfool
anyone think one is better than the other? im going to buy a new winch and i havent decided rather to get it with synthetic rope or a cable. is rope supposed to be better (because it cost more) or the cable? i think cable is just fine but would like to know how well the rope works after getting in mud,sand,and water. thanks for the input.
Posted by: mudslinginfool
thanks all, i havent bought it yet but was just trying to figure out which would be better. i have a 2500lb warn now,but its shot. im goin to get the 3000lb b/c its supposed to be sealed plus i could use a bit more poundage.
Posted by: mudslinginfool
thanks for everyones input. i purchased a warn 3.0xt (red) with mechanical brake, synthetic rope and the new fair lead for $450.00 tax included from atvdirect.com. i fugured if i didnt like the rope i can put my old cable from my 2.5 on there. by the way if anyone is looking for a winch; motoxoutlet.com has the cheapest prices i found for the 3.0 warn. cost $360.00 plus $20.00 s/h. they do not have the 3.0xt. the 2.5 is $270.00. thanks all!
Posted by: IdahoVinnie
A downside of synthetic rope is that it may chafe if rubbed on rocks when winching. You also need a aluminum or UHMW fairlead with synthetic rope. Synthetic is stronger and will NOT stretch, therefore no recoil. No gloves are needed for freyed strands of steel cable. Synthetic is less prone to "burying" into itself on the drum.
50' of Amsteel with UHMW fairlead for $70.
Posted by: IdahoVinnie
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Originally posted by: petroleumboy
Have any of you using synthetic had a hard time installing it on your drum? I've heard that often the synthetic cable isn't meant to fit into the hole on the drum forcing may people to use tape or knots to attach it to the drum. I've also heard that the synthetic lines are easy to splice together. Has anyone out there had to?
I have not installed mine yet, because I'm still snow plowing. In talking with Bryan at BC-OFFROAD (where I bought mine), he said that it installs exactly as the steel cable does (uses the steel insert). NOTE: if your steel cable is 3/16", purchase synthetic rope of the same diameter (1/4" rope is too large for drum hole on a 2.5ci, and not all 50' will fit on the drum).
The center of the synthetic rope is hollow, so I feel that splicing would be relatively easy.
Posted by: IdahoVinnie
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Originally posted by: BlueOne
What kind of lights are those,and how did you connect the strap,smart thinking there,are the lights on only when you back-up, thanks.
Before I did anything, I called Warn for their approval, and they said "go for it". The strap is a cargo hold-down strap (not the streatchable tow strap kind). On the drum, I drilled 3 holes 1/8" in size, and used shallow headed self-tapping pan head screws to attach the strap. About 14' of strap filled the drum. I have used this system for 3 years, with no problems.
I bought the lights (55 watt haleogen) at Auto Zone for $26. They are back-up lights intended to be mounted on the rear of a tow vehicle, mounted to the tow bar. The lights come on automatically when I shift into reverse. The Vinson was pre-wired from the factory for back-up lights. The pigtails were located by the rear storage compartment.
Posted by: IdahoVinnie
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Originally posted by: BlueOne
any problems with the 55watts and our system being able to handle that? what be nice to change our front lights to a brighter light system,either light front two or the single one! Thanks for your help!
I do a lot of plowing after dark, with no problems.
Brighter Light
Posted by: IdahoVinnie
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Originally posted by: BlueOne
Yes I am running the same roller and no problem yet,if so will have to change to alum. unles I'm missing something that is going to ruin the rope.let me know, Thanks.It's how we all learn !
If you are winching at an angle, the synyhetic rope can get pinched between the corners of the rollers, or be damaged by the end of a roller.
Posted by: v2rider
I think the ups of the rope are lighter, wont bind or kink, rust over time, or kill you if it snaps! But ive never heard anyone really complain about cable and its been reliable for however many years its been around. I wont spend the money on the rope unless I win some extra money or my cable gives me enough reasons to switch
