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Posted by: WhoDatInDaMud
I wonder about having tucked yourself into a disaster waiting for a place to happen. You have a passenger on a single rider quad (and that aint no little kid on the back) - and obvious equipment in the pack on the rear rack, and your kind of trapped in with the guns outside your legs. hmmmm.. and your riding in hilly mountainous country.... hmmmmmm???
No, I'd say that you've done just about everything possible to set yourself up for a roll-over that neither you or your friend are going to escape from.
And I know as I've been there and done that and continue to have the surgeries to recover from it. Hopefully those guns are not loaded as it would be just added karma for the gun to go off after the quad rolls over you.
Other then that - no problem.... Good luck!!
Posted by: PINKMOON
That is not a bad idea. The only problem I can see would be that your weapon might get very muddy depending on what type of terrain you have to ride through to get to your hunting spot...Nice work though.
PINKMOON
Posted by: mudblaster
well if you dont mind haveing your gun bounce all to hell and beat up your front sights and maybe knock your scope out of wack.
and dont mind getting it wet when it starts raining and your 20 miles away from your truck.
and takeing a chance on getting mud or somthing inside your gun.
then ya its cool.
but i like my gun store bought scabbert i just take the top off and bungie strap it to my back seat and if it starts to rain i can put the top on and it stays dry.
and its ajustable so you can have it strait up and down or you can lay it flat so you dont have to lift it so high when taking it out.
the way i ride, with that setup my gun would fly off and be in the toolys somwhere.
Posted by: Bear4570
I've been trying to come up with a gun rack that would work for me for over a year. I hate the plastic boxes that don't give you easy access. Finally came up with this for less than$35 for both sides( 2 guns) on the quad. Works real well and even without the hold downs strapped across the butt the guns haven't had one fall out even with some of the ravin crawling I've been doing. Best part it was very cheap, removes easily for non-hunting times and stores in a 8x6x6 inch box. To see them look at my page.
Posted by: Bear4570
PINKMOON; The mud and water issue is worse in my case because my wife says if she hunts with me she rides in style, foot rest and all. So my rear seat requires the rear gun mount to be mounted far outboard om the fender protector rail instead of in the center of the outboard section of the rear rack where the gun is very well protected. Besides my hunting guns are for hunting and will stand up to a little mud and water. Out here in the Northwest they have to.
pangborn83; You are not stupid but I am remiss in not having elaborated on the muzzle protector. The cup is bolted to the fender with an elevator bolt, a broad flat head better the an inch across and thin and flat. The foam cup is a beer insulator and inside that I have a round piece of leather at the bottom to protect the muzzle from the bolt head. Instead of a cup, I already had them, you could use a piece of PVC with a cap on it. Oh yeah, be sure and make a drain hole on the bottom lower edge or the rain or other water will make your cup runneth over. I came up with this deal from shooting Sporting Clays with guys who have golf carts and golf bag carriers modified with mounts similar to this to carry their shotguns, and some of these guys have major bucks into the guns, like better than $10,000 for a few of them. I am way cheap and use a Winchester auto.
Posted by: Bear4570
pangborn83; Well, the wife and I do have a few high dollar rifles and pistols that go to the range about once a year. She does have a Remington 700 bdl lefthand in 270 Win. that's her favorite hunting rifle along with a Ruger 44 carbine. Me, I have several favorites, a Ruger No.1, a Marlin 1895 both in 45/70 and a Ruger Redhawk in .41 mag.along with a Springfield Champion 1911. Now she has a couple of real expensive pistols, a custom Colt Officers in Polished stainless, a Detonics and an H&K 45 Compact. But most are for using and we do. The rear mounts are just the standard gun holders the would go on you front rack. You can't see it in the pic, but I do still have a set there. Usually has a machete in them rather than a gun though. The Northwest has a lot of brush.
Posted by: Bear4570
pangborn83, Always glad to help someone looking for something better and willing to do some research on the subject first.
Posted by: Bear4570
Mudblaster; I hate the big plastic suckers cause with my bad bad and having surgery on both arms and hads I can't get the gun out fast or quiet. I have lens covers for the scope and the muzzle is covered and you better not be able to get mud in the action with the bolt closed. The gun doesn't bounce andywhere and comes free quiet and fast, even for the passenger. I never have worried about a dry gun, the D*mn thing better work in the rain or what's the point.
Posted by: Bear4570
I should have mentioned that the coloring on the stock is not mud. I have this blind in a stand of small alders and getting in the back of the stand is very tight. I end up rubbing the stock against some of them that have been rubbed by the young bucks(how the h*ll do the move thru that stuff) and it stains the stock. Also if my rig had the extended fender flairs(the next project) tthe guns would be totally protected.
Posted by: Bear4570
WhoDat; We ride mainly logging roads and a couple of semi abandon roads into where we hunt. There is only one tricky place and we always dismount the passenger for that. I haven't rolled it or flipped it on it's back yet and don't plan to, did get some pretty scary leans out of it a couple of times. First I'm already crippled up enough and I took way more chances in my youth than necessary, for which I pay a painful price everyday of my life. I will never heal from the deer verses motorcycle deal in 1994, the last big error of my life. So I don't push it at all anymore. I recognize the dangers and don't push the envelope. My buddy Blaine isn't any better off than me, we are both disabled veterans. So even if we do screw the pooch we know what to expect. Thanks for the concern though. When Blaine is with me we only have one long gun with us as Blaine is a pistol hunter this year, so the left side is clear for escape if necessary. Now the wife is a different deal all together, she is only 5'4" but is always in charge and don't like nursing me much either.
Posted by: Bear4570
Oregoner; It is also illegal to carry loaded long guns on or in any vehicle in Washington. However we are hunting gated private land and we are camped almost 5 miles in and the gamies would have to hike alot farther than would be worth it to them. We are legal to carry loaded handguns(always) though and it's in a very flat cross draw and quicker to use than any long gun no matter where or how carried. Am concidering a holster on the tank bags for next year. The back complains about the Ruger's weight on the belt after a day in the woods, even with tactical suspenders to put the weight up on my shoulders.
Posted by: Bear4570
GonePostal; The wife and I just picked up a '05 400I on monday and took a short ride that afternoon. With it's wide fender flares the mud problem will be gone. After the first ride on the 400 she said to go ahead and put flares on the 250 and that will solve the mud problem there. So far the rifles and shotguns I've carried haven't done much moving around at all, then again I'm not into the go fast thing anymore and I always take it pretty easy on the trails when hunting.
Posted by: GonePostal
Bear,
Great idea on the gun rack. Liked it so much, I made my own setup, with a couple of modifications.
Where you mounted the cup holder I decided on picking up a pvc downspout adapter instead.
It converts from standard rectangular downspout to I believe a 4 inch round bottom. I picked up
a slotted pvc "drain" cover to fit the bottom of the downspout, and attached the two together
with 4 small screws. I like this due to the smaller opening for my gun barrell (less chance of it
bouncing around). The rectangular opening is just a bit bigger than a pack of cigarrettes, and
seems to hold the barrell steadier than I'd think the round would.
Like some others mentioned, my only problem was with the mud. I have no problem with a bit
of rain hitting the gun. (heck, I darn near drowned today deerhunting <g> but due to the
wetter than normal conditions were having here in WV it made things a mess.
I'm probably going to modify things a bit more before I hit the woods next week for the last 4
days of deer season. Might try to modify either a short piece of pvc pipe, or downspout for
the bottom of my rifle. Just needs a slight shield... doesn't have to look too pretty... just be
functional.
BTW, it was a hit with the other members of my hunting club. Just needs some tweaking.....
Posted by: oregoner
I think you have a good idea there for a holder that lets you get at your gun quickly, with only the minor worries of, dirt, mud, rain, snow and obsticals hitting it. I still put my gun in a case during transportation, since here in Oregon it is against the law to ride with a loaded gun on an ATV. Makes needing to get at it in a hurry a "NO NEED".
Posted by: pangborn83
looks like a good setup to an extent (maybe you can elaborate a little and sell me on it so to speak) the only thing I would worry about and maybe I just am to stupid to see the obvious in the pictre but how is the muzzle of the barrel protected because it looks like there is just a tube (PVC?) on the front fender with out a way to secure it there wouldn't that allow the barel to flop around under rough conditions possibly damageing the crown? Not trying to start anything I am just tring to figure out how I want mine and am hoping that your idea is just what I am looking for. James
Posted by: pangborn83
I too am cheap I own nothing but remmington, mossberg and winchester riffles and shotguns but I know I don't want to have to replace them (though I do have a pretty nice remington 700 for varmint hunting), I do have one idea but am unsure of how well it will work but since I am thinking of trying to make a gun rack for my ac maybe a smaller diameter piece of steel tubbing or pvc then use the foam padding idea for the inside of that not sure how solid it would be but maybe that is an option I can explore for mine as I was thinking of trying to make a non enclosed unit that runs the length of my quad just like what yours does out of curriosity where did you get the one for the rear it that one of the ones like dennis kirk sells for mounting the gun streight accross the front racks?
Posted by: pangborn83
that sounds good I think tommorow after work I am going to go kick around in the hardware store and see what I can come up with for a front but I derffinatly think a beer holder just might be the ticket for inside for a little cushion. I'll let you know what I come up with if I do get something together I just really want something easily accesible but protected at the same time thanks for your time and idea of how I may accomplish my goal, James
