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Posted by: jett
A good dealer will install the winch as part of the deal, if he wants your business, no matter how much he has discounted your quad. Sounds like a lot of dealers are screwing you over. Shop around play one against the other, if not just walk out the door and down the road to the next dealer. I work hard for my money and want my money to work hard for me.
Posted by: Arctic388
The way it was explained to e is that one had to pay full suggested retail price to get the winch for a true $69.00
my local dealer told me it would be cheaper to buy the machine at his price then buy the winch from him. which is true if you compare MSRP to what they really sell for.
Posted by: Bing
not really sure how much you could trust a $69 winch from the start
sounds like the kind of winch that would leave you stranded
Posted by: ricerocket
Try a different dealer when shoping for mine i ran into the same prolem at a few dealers. Your dealer is right they pay 185.00 for the winch from their supplyer. I bet 100 dollars they get a rebate from AC after they sell the machine. call around and see what other dealers say.
Posted by: peteyz24
im pretty sure they' re the warn winches that cat has in the accessorie catalog, its on 69 bucks because its a deal. I have a 49 dollar winch out of the northern tool catalog i believe, im not really sure which catalog its from because my dad ordered it. Its good enuf for me, i dont do mud bogging, its there just incase i need it someday, and for 49 bucks, if it breaks Ill just replace it
Posted by: MnCat
The wench costs is shared by Cat, the dealer and yourself. When I was pricing my 500, several of the dealers asked before quoting a price if I was getting the wench. Even if you pay the extra, still cheaper then buying some place else.
If the $185 is for installation, then you are getting ripped. Its an easy install. I did mine in an hour and a half, that included a trip to the hardware store to do a little customizing. First wench install for me as well
Posted by: MnCat
Bing,
The winch is a Warn 2.5. I'm surprised you said it "sounds like the kind of winch that would leave you stranded." I thought it was considered one of the best.
Posted by: CR724
The winch is not that hard to put on. The hardest part is getting the control wire from the handle bars to underneath the fenders. Should take an hour or two to install. Good luck.
Posted by: CR724
I financed through my bank and got the $69 winch.
Posted by: CR724
These winches have almost too much cable in them. If you don't get the cable nice and even it will bunch up between the winch's little cross bars. You would hate to cut off any cable cuz someday you might need it.
Posted by: Redcruiser500AC
Hello, I have a the ? It is 69$ for the winch. but if you read the fine print on there advertising that does not include dealer installation. That is were he is getting the 185.00. When I got my 500 I took the 3.5% I figured the winch I can put that on and I know it would be done right. My 500 I paid 6,450 out the door. Before taxes and all the other nickel and dime stuff it was 5,750.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Hey Catterman, I see you live in Dillingham, what made you move to there. I have relatives out there, the O'connors. I love that area and try to get out there when possible, of course it is to hunt with my brother-n-law John. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Catterman, I thought you would, John and his family are well known out there as they are good folks. I do not have any idea when I will be out there again, the last time I was there was over 4 years ago. Thanks for the offer. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
Erikr, when you installed the winch did you respool it before you used it? This is very important as it is not wound tight enough and when you use it with out repooling it will cause the cable to get sucked down into it's self and is a bugger to get unwound again.AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
No problem, Erikr. I have seen this happen and you should see the cuss words fly when they think that thier brand new winch is broke after the first time using it. I have to agree with you about finding out good info on this site, I was on another site and all they did was bad talk each other. I have met some nice guys on here and found ways on how to make my quad better and also what to look for in the future and how to deal with it. AlaskaBoy.
Posted by: ATVStitch
i just installed my new winch yesterday.....running the wires is a pian but after a few hours , yes i said few hours but that has to alot with the beer lol.....everything works great.....i did have to buy it after i bought my cat....but its worth to buy it now then have to wait to buy it for 300 bucks....
Posted by: AC650
You should pay $69.00 for the Warn winch. A/C will reimburse the dealer for the difference. That is my understanding. It is A/C's deal and the dealer just pass' the saving to the consumer. It shouldn't be a big deal. The Warn winch is a proven product that you will be happy with.
Posted by: Catterman
I am late here too, but a winch needs to be stardard on the utility AC ATV's. Other then the cost, even that is really cheap, I can't think of a single reason you wouldn't want one. I am with you MrTommy, they are a bugger to install (for me). I have a great dealer and I know they will do it right. Saves me a lot of trouble.
Posted by: Catterman
MrTommy you sure are lucky to have a supportive wife too! It is great when you can share the fun of riding ATV's together.
Back to the winch, I have put a new engine in my 1977 F-150, but I didn't even want to try to install that winch. I knew it wouldn't work for me, thats just my luck...
AlaskaBoy, I do know John O'connor! We go to the same church, he is a great guy. Let me know when you come down this way and maybe we could hook up for some ATVing or hunting or something!
Take care guys, Gabe
Posted by: BollWeevil
Yesterday I went to an AC dealer to check his prices on a 400 4x4 auto. He wanted 5299. for the plain rack model, and 5449. for the MRP rack model. When I said I wanted the advertized $69. winch, he said the base price would be 5484. for the plain rack model with the winch. I said I thought the winches were $69., and he said they cost him $185.00. How can AC advertise nationally a $69. winch when the dealers want to charge you whatever they want for it? How do you get around something like this? I'd really like to get the AC, but I want the best deal possible.
Also, is that a good price for the 04 400? He wants 6199 for the 500 auto. How about that price? Help.
Posted by: MikeAC500
I paid $6157 out the door 2 weeks ago for my AC 500 MRP model with a $159 helmet include. I didn't opt for the winch deal figured I would buy that later.
Good Luck,
Mike
Posted by: outdoornut
My dealer wanted 125.00 to install the 69.00 winch. I did it myself, it was not too tough.
Posted by: greencat650
The portion of the winch that the dealer has to pay is $185. I suppose if you pay retail price the dealer can absorb the extra $$$
but if he's selling it a small amount over cost, of course he can't absorb it, that why there is the price difference of which you were quoted.
Posted by: tommyatv
would you consider a Polaris. they are giving the warn winch Free when you buy a 4-wheeler. a 500 is $5999 and is has more features for the money over a Cat.
Posted by: FireInspector
One dealer explained it to me that the $69 Winch was only if you financed it through Arctic Cat (Sheffield Financing) (at 10.95%)
Posted by: MrTommy
I feel like I'm late to the party here, but I got our AC's back when they were offering the 3.9% financing. I didn't even ask about the $69 winch. I figured I could install one later on.
Well, "later on" finally came and I got a Ramsey 2500 wireless from eBay for (I think) $285. Installing turned into a bigger project than I had anticipated. On another forum I saw a string talking about how much it cost to have one installed and the prices ranged from $60 to over $200. By the time I got mine fully installed (two days of LEISURELY work), I'd have paid someone $60 in a HEARTBEAT. I was cramped working in my garage (waaaay too cold outside!), and having never seen a winch installed on a real live ATV, I could only go on what I'd seen in magazines and on TV. No help there. But I finally got it together and working. Don't know if I got all the 'stuff' put in the accepted proper places, but it nevertheless works. We'll see how GOOD it works out in the field this spring.
I see just about every brand dealer offering these winches for $69 at time of purchase. I wonder if they all try to 'recoup' their money in the same way. I guess it really pays to read all the small print...
Posted by: MrTommy
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Catterman. When I was a teenager and into my early 20's I LOVED working on my car. Mechanical things were what a great weekend was made of. Now that I'm in my late 50's, I give less than a damn about doing mechanical stuff. This winch was a real project. If it weren't for my obviously second best wife in the world (since you have the BEST one - ha), I never would have gotten through the ordeal. We're a great team, whether it's mechanical projects or house repair projects. She supplies the patience I just plain don't have.
Anyway, I'll repeat what I said in my previous post. If you can get a winch installed for $60, RUN, don't walk, to that place and have it done (and send me the address so I can take my wife's kittie there and have HER winch installed - ha!).
By the way, it's nice to read about someone else who thinks his wife is GREAT. Keep on keepin' on.
Posted by: MrTommy
Somehow I find it hard to believe a dealer pays the same thing I paid for a winch. Does he shop on eBay too? Every business that sells 'stuff' gets the 'stuff' cheaper than we can get it. That's the theory behind "buying low - selling high". That's how they make money, along with charging to install 'stuff' that needs installing.
Of course, anytime you talk to a dealer of anything, he'll tell you he's barely making a dime on this great deal. If he sold stuff THIS cheap every day he'd be out of business. But because he likes you, he'll sell you the part as HIS price and just charge to install it. Sure.
Posted by: Erikr
I just bought my first ATV the other day, an AC 500 standard. Paid $5850. Like others, the dealer wouldn't honor the $69 winch deal, said he discounted the ATV too much. I took the 4.9% financing and bought the winch outright for $350. It is a Warn 2500 and came with the mounting plate and roller fairleed. I was very impressed by the install- there was no cutting, drilling, or splicing. Holes were already drilled by AC and an outlet was already in the wiring harness. It took me about an hour and a half to install, which I am glad I did, for I know it was done right. So far, I am very pleased with everything, although the AC only has 9 hours and I used the winch once.
Posted by: Erikr
Alaska Boy: Thanks for the heads up. After install, I unwound the whole spool, attached it to a tree and pulled the machine up hill through about 14" of snow. I made sure the cable sat nice and even under pressure.
I found this site about three months ago and have been following faithfully. There are a lot of good people with good advice such as yourself out here which helped me choose the machine I did.
Thank you all.
Posted by: Cub
I just got mine and it cost $69 installed! sounds like your dealer is either lazy or crooked!! just my opinion.......
