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Posted by: ecorman1
Bear, I hear ya! I live in Michigan and I have a house up north. I tried to get to the house last winter on the AC 500i and as I did make it to the house, it took longer than normal due to 24 inches of snow on the ground. The mud & snow tires did a good job of not getting stuck but it was all up hill to the house and I was worried monster might not make the 200 feet to the building. After a four hour ride north, we decided to go back home. The truck was never gonna get up the hill and we were running out of time... it was still snowing.
You're sure you want to move to Oregon?
Chuck
PS. Man I like that line you use.
Posted by: ecorman1
That's great. My Sister and Brother-in-law live in San Diego, Ca., during the winter but in Washington State, all summer. Both are retired already. I retired last May and would like to travel out that way to ride some day. My wife didn't retire yet either.
If you can get four seasons out of 4000 ft. up, I would move too. I enjoy fishing for trout here but I never catch 'em. I think they go to school...
Enjoy,
Chuck
Posted by: ecorman1
Fufighter, I have friends with the same tires you have and I can say, my 589's are at least as aggerssive if not more. Gators are nice but maybe a little heavy. The one thing I miss is four wheel lock. But how often do you need it? Even they get stuck some times. I've gone through holes they were stuck in, in the past. But they've pulled me outta some bad places too. Wouldn't trade the 500i for anything but EFI...
Chuck
Posted by: ecorman1
Didn't mean to sound agressive Fufighter. I think I had just finished responding to the post on AC being ashammed. Kinda got my blood boiling.
I was just saying, the tires do work fine on my AC 500i and I hope yours do as well. I know guys that ride on brand name tires, like yours and do well on them. The stock two ply tires are no good for anything but hard, flat ground riding. If anyone thinks otherwise, make sure you take a winch on the next trip. I bought my AC with the 589's. They are an option at your dealer.
Chuck
Posted by: ecorman1
I agree Dale. Two feet of snow is too much most of the time. I will take a little off the top and then cut to the bottom of the snow on the walkway and driveway. Even better if i just go out and have fun plowing before it gets that deep. My Toro snow blower is a walk behind. It works the heck outta me if there's more than four inches of the white stuff. Even then, I like to use the AC because the driveway is 80 feet long. 60 inch blade vs 21 inch blower. That's what it boils down to.
Chuck
Posted by: ecorman1
I think I saw one in Northern Catalog but I can't find it now. They are expensive. Seems the one I was looking at was around the $1,100.00 range. I'll post again if I can remember where I saw it.
PS. Fufighter! You're the man...
Chuck
Posted by: DaleCat400
I found the best way to get threw deep snow is a Cycle Country V-blade, set about 6 inches off of the ground, and alot of momentum. 2 feet of snow is about too much for any stock 4 wheeler unless it is dry powder.
Posted by: WhoDatInDaMud
One word -
Plow
Posted by: Mudpuppy193
I see guys around here (northern wisconsin) buy tracks for their wheelers- the type that bolt up in place of your wheels. That seems to add a couple more inches of ground clearance and it also helps you float on top of the snow like a snowmobile. The downfall is that they are expensive (easily over 1k) and they slow you way down. The plus side to them is that you can go through all sorts of stuff and at least around here legaly drive it on the snowmobile trails......
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
What kind of tires do you folks have? You might need a good mud and snow tires. I just bought some 26" gators and they perform really well in the white stuff, could this be your problem? I live in Canada and we get it real good up here. You know we live in IGLOOS right? LOL!!!
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
Whoa Chuck lets get back on topic, I just wanted to know if you guys had aftermarket tires cause I can't see getting stuck in snow with a mud snow tire being a problem. When I had my stock tires on my machine would get caught in a rutt and just go straight, with a mud snow tire I noticed that my limited slip diff would work alot better it was harder for the tire to start the dreaded spin that leads to getting stuck, plus momentum has alot to do with it just like in mud. But I dont think a snowmobile would work any better in 2 feet of snow I've got a polaris 500 that gets stuck faster than my bike does. LOL!!!
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
Hey MUDBLASTER I have to thank you for the info you gave me regarding an old post I had put up. It was you that made me decide the brand of tire I was going to go with, "GATORS". After i saw the snow you guys were riding in on your pics I made up my mind that day Thanks again!!! Plus I couldn't resist the price!! My second choice was going to be the ITP 589 very good tire but a little too pricey up here in CANADA! Also MUDBLASTER, When you enlarge pic #2 it looks like your riding with a CYCLOPS, Im not trying to make fun, but it's funny that the guy in the pic came out that way LOL!!! I'd also like to give a shout out to CHUCK....PEACE!!!
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
It amazes me what you can actually buy for your ATV. I've seen a back hoe attachment you can mount under you wheeler like a snow plow, it comes with a honda motor to power it, it's got a small shovel but you could probably dig a real nice hole with it!!! Not to mention how fun it would be!!!
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
Hey MUDBLASTER what happened to the pic of the CYCLOPS LOL!!! WOW are those ever some nice snow photos looks like a really nice place to ride, those gators make short work of the snow eh? Thats the reason I bought them. I tried them on wednesday finally hit the foot marker, with -30 degree weather they performed beautifully!!! What P.S.I are you running them at? I have 26" tires and am running 5 front 5 back I wanted to run less cause the sidewalls are so tough it seem like I can almost run them flat, but having a 26" tire they look a little small with almost no air. Should have bought 27" or 28" but I thought I would loose to much of my bottom end not to mention they are a little heavy.
Posted by: FUFIGHTER
Hi AKFIREMAN the mudlites from what i've seen and heard are a very good tire, especially for the money the only bad thing i've heard is they are made with a very soft rubber compound an tend to wear a little faster I was considering buying them aswell and came across the gators they are a natural rubber base inturn will be a lot more durable tire but are alittle more pricey. Saw the post and thought i'd help.
Posted by: mudblaster
i live in bc canada and we just had 3 days of snow and two days of rain the snow in my back yard is over my knees deep. and i was just out there with my AC this morning makeing a trail i got stuck a couple of times but i just hooked up my winch to a tree and pulled my self out of the rut, then i unhooked the winch and backed up onto the stuff i already packed down then i tryed again.
i just put mine in low first and try to pack it down and ride on top of the snow, i take my time and as soon as it starts to spin i stop and back up then try again. also if you stay seated your weight is over the back tires and your least likely to spin as much backing up.thats what i do when its packing snow when its powder i just give er bullets.
stock tires work very good in the wet packing snow and on frozen snow with powder underneth they just ride on top of the frozen stuff where as my big tires break through the hard stuff.
but the big tires work the best in all terranes.
ps. i will take some picks of the trail i made in my back yard tomorrow and post them on my page, i cant do it today cause my son has the camara in town.
but i do have some pics from about a month ago makeing trail with my buddy bob and his 450 kodiak.
Posted by: mudblaster
FUFIGHTER.
i never notist that befor.
now that i look at it i think its very funny.
sorry for not posting those pics i said i was going to post but we got a new computer last week and ive bin waiting for my son to set it up.
but i am going to put up some pics rite now of my ride today.
we have some pretty deep snow here right now and its bin raining for the last week so the snow was perfect for rideing in.
P.S. check out the pictures and see how deep it was.
a bunch of us are going out on saturday and i'll post some of those also.
Posted by: mudblaster
well let me tell you about the mud lites.
theres this hill we have to go up to get to the cabin , well last week the hill was all rutted out and frozen solid i tryed to go up it and got almost all the way up and it started to spin and i slid back down well i tryed 3 times and couldent do it.
so my bud jay says let me try, so i came back up the other side and he went down and up the other side like a goat. now i know that all 4 wheels were spinning on the rube and thats deffanetly a big plus.
but i also think that the soft rubber helped on the ice.
after he whent up i said try it again , so he did and up he went again.
so then i said that i have to try again so i when down one side and hit the other side in therd gear low
and was giving her bullets and i made it spinning 3 wheels all the way.
then we said to our other buddy to try with his stock rube and he couldent eaven get half way up so i draged him up with my winch.
but anyways thay also worked ok in the deep snow, but because thay are rounded like a stock tire thay tend to spin and dig into the snow when it wet and packing and sink where as my gators are flat and pack the heavy snow down under the tires and i ride ontop.
but i must agree with fufighter with the softer rubber thay will ware faster and i've got 1700 miles on my gators and the only ware is thay are starting to round off on the edges but thats it.
the mud lites are also lighter then my gators by about maybe 10 lbs.
P.S>fufigther i run 3psi in my tires all year around.
last time i checked them i dident have enuff air in the tires to show on the gauge and the still looked ok.
but i try for 3 psi
Posted by: mudblaster
fufighter it was time for a change anyway.
hes wereing some yellow glasses with black frames and that the nose peace your seeing.
but i did laugh my ass off looking at it and im going to show my buddy bob his picture then im going to laugh some more.
thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: peteyz24
i park it in the garage and pull out the sled, lol, those track systems seem to be the way to go if you can afford them
Posted by: peteyz24
the local honda shop has them on a couple rincons, they added like 1500 onto the price, and they also give you a bigfoot kit with mudlites with the machine in place of the stock wheels and tires
Posted by: MnCat
Bear
Just give her a little more gas ;^>
Posted by: akfireman
hey mudblaster, how did the guy with the mud lites do compared to your gators. I am probably going with the mud lites, but will consider anything.
Posted by: akfireman
I was thinking the same, fufighter, but i think the soft rubber is going to be a plus in the snow, not really sure which way i want to go but cost is alot of the equation. and since the mud lites are lighter i wont worry about going up to 27" tires. Thanks for the reply.
Posted by: Bear4570
Ok you guys who live in real snow country, what do you do for snow so deep the rig starts riding on top of the snow on the skide plate? I lose traction in about a foot of snow. How do I get to keep going in the deep stuff?
Posted by: Bear4570
My problem is that we don't get snow here at the house( sea level) very often. Got 2 feet yesterday. But I live on a major hill, very, very steep and need to get off and down to the highway. The wife has to be at work when her shift comes up, she's a Para-medic. If we head up into the mountains we hit snow all the time in the winter. Maybe I better wait a year or so and get a snowmobile when she retires and we move to central Oregon(4000 feet).
Posted by: Bear4570
MnCat, more gas don't help as the tires are not on the surface with enough weight to pevent slipping of the tires. I though maybe someone knew of a system that moved enough snow to the side down to a depth that wouldn't hit the skid plate.
Posted by: Bear4570
Ecorman1; Well at least the stuff is melting here and fast, thank God as I have a Sporting Clay event this sunday. My mother in law lives in Battle Creek and the wife was born in Benton Harbor, so I know about about your snow. As to Oregon, the wife and I love it down there. Already have property, on a river no less with some of the best trout fishing in the world. Lots of deer and elk. The even have four distinct seasons which is better than we usually have here. This about half way between Bend and Crater Lake, with trails all the way between them.
Posted by: Bear4570
Where in Washington does your sister and her husband stay during the sumer? I've been L&Ied out at this point and waiting to hear what SSA has to say. Either way I will be unable to work full time again. The wife is trying for a Para-medic position down there and when the next one opens up we will be moving. That is probaly the only way the last daughter will ever move out. Hell, she's 19 and in college and working, it's just cheaper to stay at home.
Posted by: Bear4570
Before I'll plow, I'll snow blower. Easier on me and my machine.
Posted by: Bear4570
Saw a snow blower that mounts in place of a plow. Has it's own 7.5hp motor and is 48" wide. Should move lots of snow.
Posted by: Bear4570
No, it's a snow blower. Has a set of rotoary blades that chew up the snow and blow it out a chute to the side about ten feet. It does not push snow it sucks it up and blows way off to the side. Plowing means pushing the snow over to the edge of the plow blade.
Posted by: Bendman
I asked my dealer the other day and he said that the full set of tracks is five thousand bucks!
Posted by: AlaskaBoy
I beleive what you are thinking of is called a SNOW PLOW.
